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 b13irteen
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 15 Posts
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Monday, June 18, 2012 2:55:12 PM
It wasn't because she said "vagina" but because saying "I'm so flattered you are interested in my vagina, but no means no" is rude and unnecessary in the setting it was used and did nothing but overshadow her point. |
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 redelle
Female, 18-29, Australia
135 Posts
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Monday, June 18, 2012 1:59:48 PM
we do realise that vagina is a scientific term, its not like she said eat my pussy, or something truly offensive. |
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 jtrebowski
Male, 40-49, Southern US
3057 Posts
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Monday, June 18, 2012 6:32:18 AM
@Bluefalcon: You might want to take that stick out of your rectum and watch it again. It was fully contextual. Beside, when did using a word that even pre-schoolers know become "unbecoming"? |
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 BlueFalcon
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
5 Posts
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Sunday, June 17, 2012 10:42:15 PM
She holds a government office and is upheld to a higher standard, I fall under this myself being in the military. People in her position and mine are supposed to show a professional image to the public. This was open for viewing to the public so there is no question on if she was aware it would be seen publicly. Using the word "vagina" in that context had no scientific meaning, along with adding, "no means no," at the end alluring to rape.
Bottom Line. She made a decision to act in a way unbecoming a government official and has to be held responsible for her actions, regardless of the matter she was bringing up. She knew the consequences of her actions, and that language like that would result in a retaliatory action her. |
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jtrebowski
Male, 40-49, Southern US
3057 Posts
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Sunday, June 17, 2012 9:46:11 PM
zeeger60: "republicans want censorship? Fine. A bullet in the head everytime a republican lies."
C'mon, man. They don't lie anymore than anyone else. Try telling them the earth isn't flat. Of course they'll dispute it, but they're not actually "lying". They actually believe it. |
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jtrebowski
Male, 40-49, Southern US
3057 Posts
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Sunday, June 17, 2012 9:36:53 PM
vagina |
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 T3hHippie
Male, 18-29, Canada
166 Posts
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Sunday, June 17, 2012 4:16:37 PM
Go 'Merica! |
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 soundman655
Male, 50-59, Canada
955 Posts
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Sunday, June 17, 2012 12:20:37 PM
Christians think they world should do what they want. Drat them all!! |
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 Zeegrr60
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
1514 Posts
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Sunday, June 17, 2012 11:22:50 AM
republicans want censorship? Fine. A bullet in the head everytime a republican lies.
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 PierreJeanFR
Male, 40-49, Europe
1336 Posts
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Sunday, June 17, 2012 6:08:17 AM
Alcoholics go to meetings,
I'm a drunk I go to parties! |
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 MacGuffin
Female, 30-39, Europe
2597 Posts
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Sunday, June 17, 2012 6:03:04 AM
Yea MacGuffin I have a bunch of other ethnicities mixed in but I think I most identify with the Scotch, Irish, and English. I think it's because I'm such a big fan of beer and liquor.
Are you sure you're not just an alcoholic?, because merely liking alcohol doesn't de facto make you Scottish, Irish or English. |
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 bigkkm
Male, 50-59, Midwest US
95 Posts
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Sunday, June 17, 2012 5:23:10 AM
Yay, Lisa! Now that's what I call representing the D. (Technically, the OC, but right next door). |
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 SmagBoy1
Male, 40-49, Southern US
2738 Posts
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Sunday, June 17, 2012 4:36:48 AM
BlueFalcon, the UCMJ governs the actions of active duty military members and is even used to adjudicate and punish regarding criminal activity--even allowing for double jeopardy, which is significantly more stringent and strident than any rules governing civilians, elected representatives or not. There is no such document and no such strenuous rules for our representatives. You may wish there to be, and you can vote for there to be, but, fortunately for us, there currently aren't any.
Unfortunately, the majority rules here, even when the rights of the civil rights of the minority are abused. That should NEVER be the case. We, as a people, should NEVER be able to vote on civil rights. That would allow for slavery or a minority, for instance, or other discrimination, based on minority status, that is clearly abhorrent. But, such is our system of government. Oh well. |
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 robosnitz
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
2752 Posts
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Sunday, June 17, 2012 4:07:19 AM
cooch |
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 TKD_Master
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
4827 Posts
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Sunday, June 17, 2012 1:52:36 AM
Because this country is fuc*ing stupid. Abortions will probably just become another black market commodity like drugs. |
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 Kain1
Male, 18-29, Europe
1283 Posts
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Sunday, June 17, 2012 12:38:08 AM
This is drating ridiculous.. the v-word !? |
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 KitFox
Female, 18-29, Western US
252 Posts
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Saturday, June 16, 2012 11:38:05 PM
BlueFalcon, are you so "civilized" and "professional" that you can't get your head out of your ass to see when a situation is complete and utter bullpoo? I applaud members of the government who have the passion and audacity to stand up to their fellow peers and break through the asinine banter that goes on in these public hearings. |
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BlueFalcon
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
5 Posts
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Saturday, June 16, 2012 11:07:07 PM
She holds a government office and is upheld to a higher standard, I fall under this myself being in the military. People in her position and mine are supposed to show a professional image to the public. This was open for viewing to the public so there is no question on if she was aware it would be seen publicly. Using the word "vagina" in that context had no scientific meaning, along with adding, "no means no," at the end alluring to rape.
Bottom Line. She made a decision to act in a way unbecoming a government official and has to be held responsible for her actions, regardless of the matter she was bringing up. She knew the consequences of her actions, and that language like that would result in a retaliatory action her. |
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 mon360
Male, 13-17, Southern US
741 Posts
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Saturday, June 16, 2012 10:42:13 PM
how absurd! using the v word |
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 HalfPintRoo
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
2040 Posts
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Saturday, June 16, 2012 9:42:23 PM
I think men should pay child support... but I think the women should have to produce receipts for all the things bought FOR THE CHILD... so you know you're not paying for her coach purses |
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 faustsshadow
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
350 Posts
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Saturday, June 16, 2012 8:37:15 PM
The person who banned her acted foolishly. Not because she didn't deserve it (reversing the genders makes it fairly clear she did), but because they did what she wanted them to. She wanted a reaction and she got it.
Gerry made the point first, but I'll make it again. I don't think men should be forced to pay child support (they can opt out as soon as they learn of the pregnancy) for as long as women have the right to abort the baby. I mean, I'm glad everyone here wants to get their hands on my penis, but no means no.
Imagine how that would have gone over. |
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 goaliejerry
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
4004 Posts
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Saturday, June 16, 2012 8:21:49 PM
He may as well have conditioned her ability to speak again on the floor of the house upon her bringing all Republicans a delicious sandwich after she returns from the kitchen where she belongs. |
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goaliejerry
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
4004 Posts
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Saturday, June 16, 2012 8:20:51 PM
"It's never happened," legislative historian and Inside Politics editor Bill Ballenger said. "There is no precedent. There have been altercations in the House and Senate. But the idea of the controlling party, Republican or Democratic, censuring, in a sense, two of its members for speech, literally clamping down on their free-speech rights? It never happened and shouldn't happen. And, in my view, won't happen again."
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Bill Ballenger is a respected voice in Michigan politics. And a REPUBLICAN. So people get into fights and have never been silenced, but challenging Republicans on an anti-abortion bill? SILENCE! |
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 piperfawn
Male, 30-39, Europe
3160 Posts
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Saturday, June 16, 2012 7:17:03 PM
MG you start to know me. 
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MacGuffin
Female, 30-39, Europe
2597 Posts
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Saturday, June 16, 2012 7:11:36 PM
And on that note, it's time for bed*. Goodnight all. 
* To sleep, before you leap in pf. |
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