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Obama Heckled During Today's Immigration Speech

Hits: 8397 | Rating: (2.2) | Category: News & Politics | Added by: McDuff73
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auburnjunky
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 10129 Posts
Saturday, June 16, 2012 9:25:54 AM
That's why Romney leads all polls and some are starting to say "landslide" right?

Pack it in.

Butters420
Male, 18-29, Canada
 37 Posts
Saturday, June 16, 2012 9:12:16 AM
"load generic 'merican speech #1"

madest
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 6458 Posts
Saturday, June 16, 2012 9:10:07 AM
A LOT of democrats that supported him going in no longer like him.
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You gotta stop watching Fox. From my point of view, Obama has the female vote locked in, the gay vote, the minority vote and the immigrant vote. Better hope that there's more white, conservative, religious, racists than there are everyone else.

gymcoach29
Male, 30-39, Western US
 324 Posts
Saturday, June 16, 2012 8:57:18 AM
No, I mean by results. 5 TRILLION more debt, pissed off most of our allies, Increased unemployment to nearly 30% (that's the real number), instituted policies without congressional approval, Not to mention his recent job approval numbers hit a historical low of 43%... Even the democrats don't want anything to do with this narcissistic douche bag who thinks he knows everything.

eddy666
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 522 Posts
Saturday, June 16, 2012 8:41:37 AM
@FoolsPrussia
Not so. A LOT of democrats that supported him going in no longer like him. They're still going to support their party, but they're doing so with regret that he even got the democratic nomination to start with. It seems like the majority of people who actually like Obama (not just democrats or people who think he will be better than Romney) are angsty young folks and black people. (I'm not being racist, that's just more or less true)

FoolsPrussia
Male, 30-39, Western US
 3399 Posts
Saturday, June 16, 2012 8:06:09 AM
'He is already considered the worst president ever and he is not even done yet'

You mean by the people who hated him going in.

madest
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 6458 Posts
Saturday, June 16, 2012 7:49:17 AM
OK then I'm a part of those abuses. On the other hand a vote for Romney is surely a vote for war with Iran. There's our choice. Something you won't have to worry about.

MacGuffin
Female, 30-39, Europe
 2597 Posts
Saturday, June 16, 2012 6:43:15 AM
In addition to that, he's trotted out garbage like insisting that a US citizen that was not a diplomat and who had killed two Pakistani citizens in Pakistan "should have immunity", meanwhile the US kidnapped Pakistani doctor Aafia Siddiqui (who hadn't killed anyone), renders her for five years in a black site, then had the cheek to sentence her to 86 years in prison when she tried to defend herself against that illegal rendition.

I say again: if you vote for that man again, then you are part of these abuses and the raging hypocrisy he stands for.

MacGuffin
Female, 30-39, Europe
 2597 Posts
Saturday, June 16, 2012 6:42:13 AM
>>>The Iraq war was wrong and Obama ended it.<<<


He did not "end it". Obama tried unsuccessfully to negotiate further immunity for US troops in Iraq with the Iraqi government so that US troops could stay beyond 2011, and was humiliated when the Iraqi government didn't capitulate to his request.

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gymcoach29
Male, 30-39, Western US
 324 Posts
Saturday, June 16, 2012 6:30:44 AM
Madest - One of the greats? What planet do you live on? His entire Presidency has been a total failure. He is already considered the worst president ever and he is not even done yet...And you talk about Bush's criminal friends...Wow, have you looked at Obama's friends and cabinet members?..Oh and Obama was elected because he is an eloquent speaker and a likable guy.....Actually, he is an eloquent reader and he was likable because he said what we wanted to hear...did not do any of it but we believed him..bad on us..The problem is, he should not have been elected because he was likable, The Presidency should not be a popularity contest, he is simply not cut out for the job, he is too inexperienced (156 days in congress most of which he was absent) and I could go on and on...I know I wont change your mind, you are obviously too blind to see anything but what you want to see. I really wish I could live in your dreamworld.

lawndartsftw
Male, 40-49, Canada
 1815 Posts
Saturday, June 16, 2012 6:29:20 AM
Jimmies....were slightly rustled....

madest
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 6458 Posts
Saturday, June 16, 2012 6:19:44 AM
The Iraq war was wrong and Obama ended it. I swear some people can't be pleased. Look, George Bush and a chunk of his cronies are convicted war criminals. Their prison seems to be America. This verdict just came down in March and Bush cancelled a trip to Sweden since so I think he's scared. The Iraq war was a big lie and it was obvious by 2004. Yet he was reelected. This in and of itself haunts me as an American. I like to tell myself that Bush never really won a presidential election. That he was appointed by the Supreme Court in 2000 and rigged the Ohio vote to win in 2004. That belief allows me to interact on a day to day basis with people that I know are morons.
The Closing of Guantanamo was blocked by republicans. Indeed he could have fought harder for it but at the time I think he was trying to appease the right.

MacGuffin
Female, 30-39, Europe
 2597 Posts
Saturday, June 16, 2012 5:57:50 AM
I think you're mistaken. That article wasn't about a broken campaign promise it's about a president change of mind... Presidents don't have that option?


I believe the exact phrase Obama used on the campaign trail was "Restoring America's image in the world", alongside a load of rhetoric about how the Iraq war and the abuse that went on it was wrong. Despite promising to help correct that past wrongdoing (part of which was releasing those photographs) he also promised to close Guantanamo, end military tribunals for the people (including juveniles) illegally detained and tortured there, and end rendition. None of which has actually happened. The man is a liar, and every bit as much a human rights abuser as his predecessor. Vote for him again, and you'll be party to those human rights abuses too.

madest
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 6458 Posts
Saturday, June 16, 2012 5:46:35 AM
I think you're mistaken. That article wasn't about a broken campaign promise it's about a president change of mind... Presidents don't have that option?

MacGuffin
Female, 30-39, Europe
 2597 Posts
Saturday, June 16, 2012 5:44:26 AM
>>>I don't recall any campaign promises from him about "shining a light" on anything.<<<


He promised to release evidence of US troops abusing civilians in war zones as part of a process of recognising past wrong-doing and making amends, here is a link to the story.

I wonder how history might have been different if other war criminals had been allowed to cover up evidence of wrongdoing? BS like the above is a big part of the reason why the world is moving away from America, leaving you ever more isolated in anything you try and do internationally. Even if you don't recognise you actions are wrong, we do.

madest
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 6458 Posts
Saturday, June 16, 2012 5:42:48 AM
There hasn't been a truthful politician since Jimmy Carter. He tried it and is mocked to this day. You can have your high mind of voting right person and I'll do the same. Barack Obama will go down in history as one of the greats. He's not liberal enough for me, but he's the best offering out there.

MacGuffin
Female, 30-39, Europe
 2597 Posts
Saturday, June 16, 2012 5:37:03 AM
I'm not reading all the posts here 'cause I'm about to go to sleep but I saw that you're /still/ saying this. You do realize that we only really have 2 options, right? Obama or Romney.


I'm not reading all your post, 'cause you seem to think it's OK to have an opinion without doing that, but I saw that you're still thinking in limited terms of only the next four years, rather than the rest of your life. Voting for Obama just because you don't want the other guy is about the most stupid reason for voting for any candidate I've ever heard. If you ever want the broken political system in your country to get fixed in your lifetime, occasionally you're going to have to take a stand and vote for None Of The Above. If the only choice on offer is between liars and extremists of different colours, then don't choose any of them and let the low level of support for any candidate speak for itself.

madest
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 6458 Posts
Saturday, June 16, 2012 5:06:11 AM
Obama was elected on a manifesto of closing Guantanamo, making amends for past wrongdoing by US personnel, and shining some sanitising daylight on the murkier practices of the Bush regime.
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Not really. Obama was elected because he's an eloquent speaker and likable guy, something that's missing in whole herd of republicans. I don't recall any campaign promises from him about "shining a light" on anything. It was pretty obvious that Bush had lied about the reasons for war. He did campaign on Healthcare (check), capturing or killing OBL (check) and closing Guantanamo, 2 outta 3 ain't bad. Republicans blocked that from happening because they fear terrorists. If you think that things will be better by voting for Mittens by all means go ahead and vote for him. You will only be hurting yourself and CJ...

PopCap
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 570 Posts
Saturday, June 16, 2012 4:44:52 AM
Democrats:

People who piss on their own subway seat so no one else will take it.

monsterzero
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 346 Posts
Saturday, June 16, 2012 1:43:42 AM
@ExtraCredit:
Your statement has proven my point.
Bush "Signed statements." so it's o.k for Obama to bypass congress.
And what about the next President?
What boundaries and laws will he break because his predecessors got away with it?
Now is not the time for party loyalty,the survival of the constitution depends on the legislative and the judicial branches response to this violation.If nothing is done, our future as a free society looks grim.

ExtraCredit
Male, 50-59, Midwest US
 448 Posts
Saturday, June 16, 2012 12:41:26 AM
Republicans get pwned by Obama again. It's difficult to take Republican claims of usurping congress seriously after eight years of GWB rewriting law after law with his "signing statements."

Brilliant political gamesmanship.

Four more years!
Four more years!
Four more years!

monsterzero
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 346 Posts
Saturday, June 16, 2012 12:28:46 AM
@Lillian:
Here's the problem with a 2cnd Obama term.Within the next 4 yrs he will do this again and again making it more acceptable to break the law.In turn his successor will do the same and so on...
If he is impeached for this violation now, his successor; be it Romney or whomever the democratic party decides to throw in the ring will know this behavior is unacceptable for the President.
This must be nipped in the bud now or else you might as well use the original copy of the constitution to wipe your butt.

pfkdxius
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 315 Posts
Saturday, June 16, 2012 12:27:02 AM
I think a more accurate title would be:
"Guy is an non-nice individual at presidential press conference"

LillianDulci
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 2696 Posts
Friday, June 15, 2012 11:49:57 PM
"Anyone that voted for him to try and obtain an improvement in America's relationship with the world last time around should avoid voting for him again"

I'm not reading all the posts here 'cause I'm about to go to sleep but I saw that you're /still/ saying this. You do realize that we only really have 2 options, right? Obama or Romney. Not voting for Obama is essentially voting for Romney, whether or not you actually go through with it, which is a far worse option than getting Obama for a 2nd term, no matter how much I feel he didn't live up to his campaign promises (they never do, though). It's easy for you to say "just don't vote for him!" because you're not the one who will have to live with Romney for 4 years, but we actually have to live with such consequences, so we should vote for whoever we'd most prefer to win out of the 2, even if they aren't ideal.

LillianDulci
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 2696 Posts
Friday, June 15, 2012 11:46:03 PM
WeePee, they, for the most part, speak English (which isn't a requirement to be an American citizen, btw) and pay taxes, too.

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