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 liabach
Male, 40-49, Western US
 184 Posts
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Sunday, July 01, 2012 10:48:48 PM
actually he's the guy with a gay son and the guy who flew his personal plane to an indian reservation with medical supplies because of an emergency he heard listening to his HAM radio. Young Goldwater bad, Old Goldwater Good. (The above is true) |
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lsdmoe
Male, 40-49, Europe
47 Posts
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Saturday, June 16, 2012 8:13:45 AM
@TheGuySmiley
"he sounds like he's afraid of a lot. he should fear the Lord and maybe he won't be so afraid of others."
What do you call double irony? |
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TheGuySmiley
Male, 18-29, Canada
1187 Posts
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Saturday, June 16, 2012 6:23:05 AM
he sounds like he's afraid of a lot. he should fear the Lord and maybe he won't be so afraid of others. |
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 Suicism
Male, 18-29, Western US
3534 Posts
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Saturday, June 16, 2012 2:34:57 AM
If so, he probably never read this quote. |
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 eddy666
Male, 30-39, Southern US
522 Posts
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Friday, June 15, 2012 11:20:37 PM
Isn't this the same guy that the Grand Komodo Dragon Extreme of the KKK supported? |
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 paperduck
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
987 Posts
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Friday, June 15, 2012 11:12:04 PM
how is it a prediction when he starts off with "if and when"? |
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 xiquiripat
Male, 18-29, Western US
2419 Posts
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Friday, June 15, 2012 7:03:49 PM
Funny. He used to be kooky fringe of the party. |
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 Slotherder
Male, 30-39, Western US
240 Posts
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Friday, June 15, 2012 5:44:45 PM
Please excuse the horrific grammar. I'm having to type half a sentence at a time while being interrupted. I'm too impatient to proofread each sentence 4 times. Hope you can decipher interrupted thought. |
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Slotherder
Male, 30-39, Western US
240 Posts
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Friday, June 15, 2012 5:40:09 PM
What I am talking about is you ignoring the point I made while citing Ron Paul as an example of politicians who typically would not have had an issue saying things against the religious right, but once they knew they had to appeal to a larger audience, they would not say anything which would have a negative effect in the minds of that voter base. You bypassed that point and attempted to turn it into a 'Ron Paul says silly things' point which has nothing to do with what I had said. All I can see about Pearce and that Ready guy is accusations which don't prove that Pearce really know who the guy was, or what he was about, including a video of Pearce denying that he did. And when did this accusation come about? Well over a year after people were claiming racism. |
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 QueenZira
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
1774 Posts
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Friday, June 15, 2012 5:14:34 PM
What are you talking about? I was finished with Goldwater in my first part.
Everything about the Arizona bill creator is public record, he even had the "wacko fringe guy" be his sponsor when he was baptized into the Mormon church. And he had no problem with the guy at all until he went on that recent shooting rampage and killed his fiance, her kids and himself, now he can't disassociate himself from the guy enough. Odd how that works no? |
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Slotherder
Male, 30-39, Western US
240 Posts
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Friday, June 15, 2012 5:04:32 PM
Oh, so you're talking about Pearce and 1070, not Goldwater? I am unfamiliar with the ties you speak of. If what you're talking about has to do with that crazy minuteman guy, one wacko of a wacko group liking a politician isn't a political tie in my opinion. If you want to subscribe to that sort of lose reasoning, have fun with it, and make absolutely no complaints when people say Obama has ties to Communists, then asserting that that makes him essentially the same. I think both are ignorant. And yes, I agree that Ron Paul says a lot of kooky things. You ignore, either intentionally (to misdirect) or unintentionally (because you have no ability to focus) the point which was made and substitute your own point in its place. Now who is playing with reality?
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QueenZira
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
1774 Posts
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Friday, June 15, 2012 4:47:03 PM
Sloth, the excuses, my Goddess the excuses...
Number 1. *NEO* Nazis, and once a Nazi always a Nazi. 2. Paul has quite an extensive record of kooky racist/religious buffoonery that you can even follow on twitter. Some diligent document hound with nerves of steel has taken pains to post his newsletters there.
Bottom line, if you can't stand reality, you still can't substitute it with a made up one of your own. |
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 EgalM
Male, 18-29, Canada
1667 Posts
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Friday, June 15, 2012 4:24:30 PM
I found that all sorts of types of people want their way and won't compromise. Religion has nothing to do with it, lots of Religions compromise to keep people coming in the doors and donating money. |
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Slotherder
Male, 30-39, Western US
240 Posts
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Friday, June 15, 2012 4:13:21 PM
Oh, and if all those who hold such feelings about the protection of people from racist policies, why is there no outrage over the stop and frisk policies of the NYPD on this site? Personally, I think the answer is pretty obvious, but I'd love it if anyone spoke up in order to explain why that isn't so. |
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Slotherder
Male, 30-39, Western US
240 Posts
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Friday, June 15, 2012 3:36:58 PM
@QueenZira Thank you for proving my point about liberal reaction with your post. Seriously? Given the size and scope which the nazi party had at one point, you think everyone that had a political tie to the party held all their beliefs? It is the same thing with much of the religious right today. You think all of the politicians (take, for instance, Ron Paul) who refuse to say anything which might rub the religious right the wrong way really agree with them? No, of course not. And to make such claims without further evidence is ridiculous by any standard. |
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onoffonoffon
Male, 30-39, Western US
1254 Posts
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Friday, June 15, 2012 1:55:23 PM
Hey leave the Flat Earth'ers out of it. Some of us don't like the religious right either. |
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 SmagBoy1
Male, 40-49, Southern US
2751 Posts
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Friday, June 15, 2012 1:13:03 PM
Old Ollie, let me share something about my personal anti-Christian bigotry. For one thing, I don't care what most any politicians say. They all seem to be liars in one way or another. But, regarding Christianity, if it wouldn't forward an anti-liberal, anti-democrat, anti-atheist bigoted agenda into law (and that last part is what bugs me, I don't give a rip about your opinion, it's when you make it into law that governs me that pisses me off), then, yeah, I have issues. Otherwise, believe in whatever god you want to! Just keep His laws off of me and mine and I won't exhibit any bigotry at all toward our Christen brethren and sistren. |
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SmagBoy1
Male, 40-49, Southern US
2751 Posts
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Friday, June 15, 2012 1:09:14 PM
I wish that I had an alternative to democracy, because, frankly, with the big money up in DC, and the influence it buys, the system we have is irrevocably broken, IMHO. And that's from both parties. I'm a crazy assed liberal, but I won't pretend for even a second that there are any Democrats in D.C. who aren't significantly influenced by big money, big money interests, etc. It's broken and ridiculous. It's just that, given the alternatives, I don't know what would work better.  |
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QueenZira
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
1774 Posts
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Friday, June 15, 2012 11:48:34 AM
Goldwater was the first Rep. to win big in the South since before the days of Lincoln, and he didn't accomplish that by promising them free lolipops, he invented the Southern Strategy by which he would win the majority white vote by using the prejudices of "Negrophobic" southerners. To claim he wasn't racist is a whitewash of the man's true legacy.
And Arizona's detestable bill was crafted by a man who has Neo Nazi/white supremacist ties who has publicly stated he created it in response to the "browning" of America.
It's ironic to see both these factions of the Right at conflict in Goldwater,(RadXian/Racist) because they soon after came together in diabolical union. Like s#it covered poison. |
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 HolyGod
Male, 30-39, Western US
2913 Posts
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Friday, June 15, 2012 11:24:24 AM
OldOllie
"Anti-Christian bigotry"
I have no bigotry against christianity. I have a bigotry against stupidity. So if you think the world is flat, or you think fossils are a lie, or you think the bermuda triangle is a real phenomena, or you think big foot exists, or you read the bible and think it is true, you're an idiot, and that's my problem. Because there are way too many idiots. |
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 swoop408
Male, 18-29, Western US
1768 Posts
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Friday, June 15, 2012 10:52:58 AM
Oh look, OldOllie is generalizing and putting words in people's mouths. I'm shocked. SHOCKED! |
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 OldOllie
Male, 50-59, Midwest US
8767 Posts
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Friday, June 15, 2012 10:49:21 AM
This guy was the biggest landslide loser in the past half century of presidential elections, but when he says something that agrees with your anti-Christian bigotry, all of a sudden he goes from being a radical right-wing nutcase to being a great and wise statesman.
Does this mean that you now agree with all of his other policy positions? |
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 patchgrabber
Male, 30-39, Canada
5290 Posts
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Friday, June 15, 2012 10:35:16 AM
That's why we were warned against a bi-party system.
Trust me, a multiple party system with a 'first past the post' voting system isn't much better. Plus our political parties are polarizing into basically a bi-party system as well. |
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patchgrabber
Male, 30-39, Canada
5290 Posts
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Friday, June 15, 2012 10:34:10 AM
@Eddy: True, but money for business = political donations from business. The left has their own agenda and they're entrenched in it too. Politics sucks. |
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eddy666
Male, 30-39, Southern US
522 Posts
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Friday, June 15, 2012 10:10:31 AM
"and the party line is always "more money for business.""
I think you mean "more money for myself". |
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