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America's Health Care System = A Massive Pig

Hits: 7786 | Rating: (3.0) | Category: News & Politics | Added by: kitteh9lives
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MeGrendel
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 4645 Posts
Saturday, June 09, 2012 5:38:35 PM
Gerry1of1-"The single most expensive thing in U.S. healthcare is not medical procedures or drugs. It's administration."

And you SERIOUSLY believe that the Government can do a BETTER job a administrating?

Ever visited the DMV?

The Government is nothing BUT an administration, who's primary job is to create MORE administration.

Don't believe me? Obama stated yesterday that THE PROBLEM with the economy was....***wait for it****....NOT ENOUGH GOVERNMENT JOBS!!!.

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 25750 Posts
Saturday, June 09, 2012 5:30:16 PM
vv @Gerry1 I TOTALLY agree with you! Administration costs have doubled or tripled since the 60's (as a ratio of spending) here in Canada! ALL the increase in healthcare costs can be pegged to increased administration costs.!

And WHAT does the government do best of all? Increases... ADMINISTRATION COSTS!!!

@Cajun: Obama campaigned on that: "Unneccessary tonsilectomies" he said! LMAO! Yeah THAT is the cause of increased healthcare!

The #2 Cause: LAWYERS! Lawsuits cost insurance companies money, which gets passed on to their customers. Doctors in this case. Who then MUST pass on the costs to the customers, sick folks.

FIX the lawyer problem and THEN fix the insurance company problem and THAT WILL actually reduce healthcare costs.

Obama is doing the OPPOSITE!


Cajun247
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 10282 Posts
Saturday, June 09, 2012 5:13:11 PM
"Cut down on proceedures" is NOT a death panel?


Cut down on USELESS procedures, which risks lives and gives insurance revenue. Unfortunately, how to do so would be difficult to elaborate on.

Cajun247
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 10282 Posts
Saturday, June 09, 2012 5:09:46 PM
If this video was truely unbiased they wouldn't fail to mention how egregiously overregulated HEALTHCARE is. That is why healthcare and health insurance is ridiculously overpriced.

Keyh
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 227 Posts
Saturday, June 09, 2012 5:06:45 PM
"Call it Socialism if you want, it just proves you have no concept of the meaning of the word."

'An economic system in which the production and distribution of goods are controlled substantially by the government rather than by private enterprise'

You're right, a government run system in lieu of a private sector run system isn't socialism. Oh wait a second, that's exactly what it is.

Buiadh
Male, 30-39, Europe
 6653 Posts
Saturday, June 09, 2012 4:50:24 PM
Health care should be available to everyone.

Call it Socialism if you want, it just proves you have no concept of the meaning of the word.

DrProfessor
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 3884 Posts
Saturday, June 09, 2012 4:48:29 PM
Capitalism works on the concept that those who sell you a product try to make the most profit possible. In order to make profit, they charge you as much as they can get away with for the cheapest service or product they can get away with providing.

The question is, do we want to apply these principles to health care? Do we want the people taking care of us when we're sick to be trying to weasel out of taking care of us while still getting away with our cash? Is that the mindset we want our care providers to have?

Sounds like I'm digging for a specific answer there, and I'll admit that I am, to a degree. If you can explain why selfish motivation is good in an altruistic business, you're welcome to do so. I'll listen, and you might even change my mind.

Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
 33910 Posts
Saturday, June 09, 2012 4:41:19 PM

The single most expensive thing in U.S. healthcare is not medical procedures or drugs. It's administration. Paperwork overhead and double billing. When my hubby had cancer, we had soooooo many "office visits" that were needless and pointless but we had to jump through the hoops so they could bill the insurance company and he could get treatment.

Here's an infograph. FancyLad, I'd love it if you made this a seperate post.

HEALTH CARE EXPENSES

faustsshadow
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
 371 Posts
Saturday, June 09, 2012 4:40:44 PM
I understand that you 'think' life = health care, but that is still stretching the definition quite a bit. Argue for it to be redefined if you will, but be honest in your intentions.

Defining what a 'right' is is tricky and important. Inalienable rights are rights that people have that the government can't (ie shouldn't) take away. The government does not 'give' rights. Health care is something that must be given.


skine
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 724 Posts
Saturday, June 09, 2012 4:39:06 PM
Why did he decide to record a political rant in a club?

Thdot
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 660 Posts
Saturday, June 09, 2012 4:25:22 PM
I wanted to see the piggy.

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 25750 Posts
Saturday, June 09, 2012 4:20:30 PM
1:35 Um, Private Companies are the ones who will RUN Obamacare, the Law forces individual citizens to buy THEIR products or be fined!
What this guy says is utterly false!

Non-Partisan? LOLZ! This guy's socialist dream world is entirely, 100% partisan.

"Cut down on proceedures" is NOT a death panel? He completely disproves his own rhetoric!

2:00 this guy lives in a socialist alternate-reality if he truely believes THIS crapola! lolz!

WeePee
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 611 Posts
Saturday, June 09, 2012 4:15:51 PM
health care should be about as much of a right as having a cell phone.

Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
 33910 Posts
Saturday, June 09, 2012 4:15:39 PM

There will not be any significant change in the near future for 2 reasons.

1: MONEY: Health Care is made up of FOR PROFIT Corporations that spent billions on politicians to get it set up this way an they don't want any changes. Why do you think George Bush banned US citizens going to Canada for drugs at half the cost?
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B: STUPIDITY: People are stupid. No one wants to sacrifice for it. We want good medical care but no one wants to take it out of THEIR paycheck. The Gov'ment aught to do somthin'! they cry without stopping to think where the gov'ment gets it's money from.

In summary, Corporations want their money and it's not too hard to fool stupid people into not demanding it of their governement.

Omphaloskept
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 183 Posts
Saturday, June 09, 2012 4:13:55 PM
"...and if it is a right, like life, liberty, or the pursuit of happiness..."

life=health care. "Like" doesn't enter into it. Unless you are in the tiny bracket of people who are born in the woods and die immediately thereafter, you will receive health care during your tenure as a U.S. citizen.

kitteh9lives
Female, 70 & Over, Eastern US
 1443 Posts
Saturday, June 09, 2012 11:49:05 AM
Link: America's Health Care System = A Massive Pig [Rate Link] - Is health care a privilege or a right?

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