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 UDUMASS
Male, 30-39, Canada
 61 Posts
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Tuesday, June 12, 2012 11:49:50 AM
The theory of evolution is a mockery of actual science |
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 Barnk
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
435 Posts
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Monday, June 11, 2012 10:44:21 PM
Blug. |
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 thescotsman
Male, 50-59, Eastern US
54 Posts
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Monday, June 11, 2012 7:35:34 PM
God created evolution... |
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 Essersmith
Male, 18-29, Europe
130 Posts
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Monday, June 11, 2012 1:52:30 PM
"I'm skeptical of any science that can't take criticism of it's conclusions"
You are talking about creationism, right? The guys that refers to the (almighty) booooble when in doubt, right? The guys who have faith rather than proof, right? |
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 cahalla
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
963 Posts
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Monday, June 11, 2012 10:52:41 AM
No words for this bullcrap |
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stonker
Male, 40-49, Europe
81 Posts
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Monday, June 11, 2012 9:42:48 AM
Roostery?
What I actually said wasn't a profanity but nvm. |
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stonker
Male, 40-49, Europe
81 Posts
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Monday, June 11, 2012 9:41:57 AM
Talking to myself here.
Creationists, please, why can't evolution and the existence of 'god' both be true. Science has laws and maybe god's a smart cookie.
Atheists, science hasn't answered everything, yet, please don't be so roostery. (But to be fair while creationists are making such dumbass arguments I can't really criticise your position.) |
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 patchgrabber
Male, 30-39, Canada
5277 Posts
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Monday, June 11, 2012 7:07:09 AM
Oh and stop bringing up fossil gaps, because you just look silly. Just because there's a gap means nothing. Learn about the rarity with which fossils are formed, i.e. specific conditions required, and it's a wonder we even have what we do. There never will be a complete fossil record, and if that's part of your reasoning for why evolution is "false" then I'd rather jingle my keys in front of you than argue with you. |
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patchgrabber
Male, 30-39, Canada
5277 Posts
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Monday, June 11, 2012 7:03:44 AM
...and Sidney Fox demonstrated how protobionts can form from primitive amino acids.
"now it's sudden change prompted by extinction."
No, it isn't. Do you even know what the difference is between gradualism and punctuated equilibrium? Of course you don't.
I just love how when the overwhelming evidence and scientific majority refute your ideology, you just claim it's rigged, and that the "real" science is brushed under the carpet. You're ridiculous. |
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patchgrabber
Male, 30-39, Canada
5277 Posts
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Monday, June 11, 2012 7:01:09 AM
Crakr: I try my best to treat you with respect, but your posts in this thread make me wonder if you're functionally retarded.
"I'm skeptical of any science that can't take criticism of it's conclusions, that bans and shuns other scientists for not "towing the line"."
If this *were* the case, it sounds an awful lot like your christianity to me, so I wonder why you'd have a problem with it?
"They haven't even been able to recreate it in a laboratory."
If you're implying that fully grown organisms crawled out of slime then yes, but no one said that's what happens. Otherwise the Miller-Urey experiment demonstrated that amino acids can spontaneously form in early-Earth like conditions, |
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 LemonCurry
Male, 40-49, Asia
432 Posts
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Monday, June 11, 2012 6:48:59 AM
"LemonCurry: Evolutionists would rather make monkeys of themselves than admit God may exist."
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lol, q.e.d. thank you for proving my point ...  |
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 GRadde
Male, 18-29, Europe
2567 Posts
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Monday, June 11, 2012 6:42:30 AM
>Crakr
First off, that's "toeing the line", as in putting a toe beyond a drawn line.
Second, I'm sceptical that you're sceptical of any science that can't take criticism of its conclusions; see, you say that the general concensus of the scientific community changes. Well, see, that's because criticisms are put forward with discoveries supporting these new claims. Thus, mistakes in previous versions of what's considered to be true are corrected as new knowledge emerges. |
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 CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
14374 Posts
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Monday, June 11, 2012 6:39:24 AM
LemonCurry: Evolutionists would rather make monkeys of themselves than admit God may exist. |
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LemonCurry
Male, 40-49, Asia
432 Posts
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Monday, June 11, 2012 5:43:30 AM
"Here is my thoughts on why Creationist are not dumb. Noah's arcs dimensions are given, it was about as long as a football field if I remember correctly. Anyways, that's not big enough for every animal to fit on it, so the bigger ones like dinosaurs got left out."
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and no doubt noah made an extra effort collecting all the microbes, bacteria, viruses that survive today. (hey, at least there was enough space on board!)
guys, frankly, let's put the discussion to rest. a monkey will sooner understand the theory of relativity than creationists understand reason and logic. beati pauperes spiritu (the bible does have some nice quotes once in a while ...  ) |
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stonker
Male, 40-49, Europe
81 Posts
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Monday, June 11, 2012 2:50:00 AM
Why do religious people not make the leap of logic, that people that have 'faith' in science seem to miss also, that evolution and the existence of a divine being aren't mutually exclusive. Maybe that's all part of the plan. Neither side will EVER prove that ultimate truth.
We could fill that "ever receding pocket of scientific ignorance" and not find god. Doesn't prove a thing. If a god exists it would be outside all that anyway.
I'm a Fortean btw. |
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 Colors
Male, 18-29, Southern US
93 Posts
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Monday, June 11, 2012 1:07:47 AM
Here is my thoughts on why Creationist are not dumb. Noah's arcs dimensions are given, it was about as long as a football field if I remember correctly. Anyways, that's not big enough for every animal to fit on it, so the bigger ones like dinosaurs got left out. |
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CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
14374 Posts
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Sunday, June 10, 2012 11:39:04 PM
I'm skeptical of any science that can't take criticism of it's conclusions, that bans and shuns other scientists for not "towing the line".
Our ancestors didn't crawl out of a slimy tide pool, sorry even most scientists now know that didn't occur. If life just spontaneously erupted like that, then why hasn't it ever happened again? They haven't even been able to recreate it in a laboratory.
"The Fashion" in science used to be gradual change and natural selection, now it's sudden change prompted by extinction. Eventually fashions change, science would not come to an end if design was embraced, the task would still remain of deciphering how genetic information is communicated, and how the whole system works. What scientists would lose is the illusion of total mastery of nature. They would have to face the possibility that there is a further reality which transcends science. |
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 Zeegrr60
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
1514 Posts
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Sunday, June 10, 2012 9:55:16 PM
You guys know crackerjack is trolling and means none of what he says...if he did believe it,it wouldn't be funny. |
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Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
9554 Posts
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Sunday, June 10, 2012 2:42:42 PM
The problem is that people like CrakrJak have a huge advantage.
All they need to do is copy&paste lies repeatedly and make up anything that happens to fit what they want at any particular time. That's quick and easy to do, requiring neither knowledge nor thought.
Refuting them requires knowledge, thought and time because it has to logical rebuttal based on knowledge and reasoning.
In short, spewing creationist lies is inherently easier than properly refuting them and it's inevitable that some of the spew will stick before rational people with integrity can clean it up. |
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 PierreJeanFR
Male, 40-49, Europe
1336 Posts
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Sunday, June 10, 2012 2:39:26 PM
Crakrjakass is proof evolution exists: a turd who became an assshole |
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mesovortex
Male, 30-39, Southern US
180 Posts
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Sunday, June 10, 2012 1:00:32 PM
10 to 1 CrakrJak won't read the rebuttals (or understand them) and will go to another thread to cut and paste the same garbage.
Isn't there a commandment against lying? How come creationists lie so much? |
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Zeegrr60
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
1514 Posts
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Sunday, June 10, 2012 12:45:31 PM
Carjack, you're still funny. If there is a god, why doesn't he kill the idiots who work for him? And if the design is so damn intelligent,explain birth defects. If you Bow before anything, you are just stupid. |
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Barnk
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
435 Posts
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Sunday, June 10, 2012 12:29:56 PM
CrakrJak, you're just regurgitating Duane T. Gish. He's a boob. Please present fresh arguments that haven't already been refuted decades ago, |
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banjolegs
Male, 30-39, Europe
146 Posts
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Sunday, June 10, 2012 10:29:11 AM
CrakrJak:
"No other job in the world would be considered credible with such scant evidence and supposition to support it's conclusions"
What apart from every preacher, cleric or vicar? |
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 Otto67
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
438 Posts
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Sunday, June 10, 2012 10:22:53 AM
"The evidence of design is mounting yet no one dares upset the elitists in academia or be banned and shunned."
Crakr:
The evidence of design gets smaller and smaller, there is not one scientist that denies evolution that is taken seriously. You do not dare upset your dogma for fear of realizing the cognative dissonance you would have to face. If a scientist would be able to disprove evolution they would give him a Nobel prize and he would be famous. In religion if someone attempts to disprove dogma or god they are labeled a heretic and shunned. |
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