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 8BitHero
Male, 18-29, Europe
 5417 Posts
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Friday, June 01, 2012 4:19:21 AM
The difference is that YOLO gives you an excuse for getting a bad tattoo and putting it on Facebook.
"It's a crap tattoo but hey, YOLO"
"Carpe Diem" isn't about getting away with being stupid. Seizing the day doesn't mean being an idiot. |
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 MacGuffin
Female, 30-39, Europe
2597 Posts
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Thursday, May 31, 2012 2:09:19 PM
Horace.
Not much I remember from school, but some of us have and do study the classics.
Yes, I did too. "Dulce et Decorum est" is one of the other phrases that he originated, and that other much later writers popularised; it seems strangely apt for Americans today.
However, getting back on topic, whilst I'm sure that it wasn't her intention, Mrs "actually, I learned it from the Brady Bunch, so there" down below added weight to my theory that most people born in the latter third of the twentieth century will not have been introduced to the concept of carpe diem by reading the original high-brow source text, but rather by more populist media, in just the same way as "YOLO" became widely-known through populist media. Which is why Jack Black is misguided for saying that "YOLO is Carpe Diem for stupid people" - most people who know the concept these days didn't come to it through particularly intellectual sources. |
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 Nickel2
Male, 50-59, Europe
1522 Posts
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Thursday, May 31, 2012 12:16:18 PM
Diem-me, what a load of carpe |
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 notorious98
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
151 Posts
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Thursday, May 31, 2012 12:13:34 PM
@MacGuffin
Most people understand that "Carpe Diem" is popularly translated into "Sieze the Day". Personally, I don't even know what Robin Williams movie you're referring to and I know Carpe Diem. The fact that you automatically assume he got it from a movie, when it could have come from a multitude of other sources, is asinine. Please. Crawl back under your rock. |
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 madduck
Female, 40-49, Europe
2821 Posts
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Thursday, May 31, 2012 10:11:10 AM
Horace.
Not much I remember from school, but some of us have and do study the classics. |
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 lauriloo
Female, 40-49, Midwest US
785 Posts
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Thursday, May 31, 2012 9:46:16 AM
I love how Macguffin makes up universal "facts" based on her own personal experiences. Every generation wants to claim that THEIR generation invented everything. I've never seen "Dead Poet's Society" and I know what "Carpe Diem" means. I believe I first heard it from Mike Brady on the Brady Bunch so I declare THAT as the pivotal event that made the phrase popular and any subsequent reference is derivative of that, lol. |
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MacGuffin
Female, 30-39, Europe
2597 Posts
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Thursday, May 31, 2012 7:30:04 AM
Do you not think it's a tad more likely that he knows it because everyone knows it?
If I did think that, do *you* not think that's what I would have said?
Tell me, how do you think it came to pass that "everybody knows it"? Osmosis? Magic? Or was it all that reading of ancient Latin poetry that people born in the latter third of the twentieth century were so renowned for? Perhaps you can tell me about all the other 'famous' Latin phrases that you acquired from diligent research rather than popular culture?
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 icklevamp
Female, 18-29, Europe
343 Posts
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Thursday, May 31, 2012 7:12:30 AM
"I'm saying, this classic movie scene, which popularised the phrase "carpe diem", is the only reason Jack Black is familiar with the concept. Getting your cod philosophy from movies is hardly more intellectual than getting the same concept from an internet meme."
Do you not think it's a tad more likely that he knows it because everyone knows it? It was first used thousands of years ago, it is the motto of many societies and 2 separate schools I went to had it as a school motto. Like veni, vide, vice, it's ingrained in society. |
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icklevamp
Female, 18-29, Europe
343 Posts
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Thursday, May 31, 2012 7:05:57 AM
"Yeah, Jack, becuase it's *so* much more interlectewal to get your cod philosophy from a twee old Robin Williams movie, than it is to appreciate the exact same premise stated in simpler language via an internet meme."
Huh?? |
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 EgalM
Male, 18-29, Canada
1667 Posts
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Thursday, May 31, 2012 7:04:26 AM
YOLO is supposed to be something to inspire you to live life to the fullest, not to act like a stupid spoiled whore. Do you understand why Carpe Diem "Seize the Day" is a good reference now?
Also, yes, I too was pissed at Gullivers Travels, the original was so F'ing good, all he had to do was stick the original story, which no one wants to do, cause than they didn't make it. Frankly even if you change it up, you still didn't make the original concept, so why bother, your just going to ruin it. *cough*Micheal Bay*Cough* |
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MacGuffin
Female, 30-39, Europe
2597 Posts
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Thursday, May 31, 2012 7:03:27 AM
Hint: It has been used for 2000 years.
Of course it has, but it was popularised for our generation by the perennial movie scene mentioned. |
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MacGuffin
Female, 30-39, Europe
2597 Posts
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Thursday, May 31, 2012 6:58:35 AM
>>>Huh??<<<
I'm saying, this classic movie scene, which popularised the phrase "carpe diem", is the only reason Jack Black is familiar with the concept. Getting your cod philosophy from movies is hardly more intellectual than getting the same concept from an internet meme.
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 bluntman1138
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
28 Posts
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Thursday, May 31, 2012 6:54:22 AM
MacGuffin "Yeah, Jack, becuase it's *so* much more interlectewal to get your cod philosophy from a twee old Robin Williams movie"
If you think that the term "Carpe Diem" was made famous by that pooty Robin Williams movie, then you are a MORON!
Hint: It has been used for 2000 years. |
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icklevamp
Female, 18-29, Europe
343 Posts
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Thursday, May 31, 2012 6:43:28 AM
"Yeah, Jack, becuase it's *so* much more interlectewal to get your cod philosophy from a twee old Robin Williams movie, than it is to appreciate the exact same premise stated in simpler language via an internet meme."
Huh?? |
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MacGuffin
Female, 30-39, Europe
2597 Posts
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Thursday, May 31, 2012 6:10:33 AM
Yeah, Jack, becuase it's *so* much more interlectewal to get your cod philosophy from a twee old Robin Williams movie, than it is to appreciate the exact same premise stated in simpler language via an internet meme.
FWIW, the only choices I've ever regretted in life have been those few things I've *not* done. I never regret trying my ideas out and making honest mistakes in the process. I'd only ever regret making gaffs that had massive individual catastrophic consequences, or making the same small mistakes over and over again; otherwise, making novel and manageable mistakes occasionally is a valuable thing called "gaining experience". I feel sorry for anyone that's misguided enough to believe that they've never made any mistakes and are happy with that status quo; how can they possibly know how much further they might have got if they'd risked failure once in a while, and triumphed some of the time?
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 Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
25555 Posts
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Thursday, May 31, 2012 5:55:43 AM
You Only Live Once.
Should you embrace the spirit of the meme and enjoy it's free spirited popularity?
Or just poo all over the concept with intellection snobbery in some idiotic Twitter.
Well, Mr. Smarty Pants Jack Black, I saw 'Gullivers Travels' so I know you aint all that clever. |
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tedgp
Male, 30-39, Europe
2924 Posts
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Thursday, May 31, 2012 3:06:34 AM
Amen Jack. A-drating-men |
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 Ozmose
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
383 Posts
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Thursday, May 31, 2012 12:57:33 AM
YES . . . Sweet Jesus, yes! |
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 pigsnout5
Female, 18-29, Western US
548 Posts
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Thursday, May 31, 2012 12:23:44 AM
what the heck is YOLO? |
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 Tobunshi
Male, 18-29, Europe
682 Posts
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Wednesday, May 30, 2012 8:47:56 PM
@JJXanadu
Well, then, you left out the best part! |
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 JJXanadu
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
517 Posts
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Wednesday, May 30, 2012 8:27:56 PM
I teach 9th graders. I said the same thing (Minus the 'stupid people' comment) a few weeks ago... |
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 SPARTAKITTY
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
2131 Posts
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Wednesday, May 30, 2012 6:02:25 PM
Honkeylips, you are a good man. |
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 honkeylips
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
1392 Posts
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Wednesday, May 30, 2012 5:43:22 PM
I teach junior high kids. I made a rule that if I heard that in my class one more time you had to write me a 3 page paper on why that phrase is so stupid. |
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 Draculya
Male, 30-39, Asia
6281 Posts
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Wednesday, May 30, 2012 5:37:14 PM
What is it?
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 BostonKaiser
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
1072 Posts
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Wednesday, May 30, 2012 5:23:22 PM
I'm with you, FoolsPrussia. I assume this is a catch-all phrase to justify people behaving like ass hats. Like, "Hate the game, not the player". I'll hate whomever I choose, thank you. |
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