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 Penguinato23
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 295 Posts
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Monday, May 28, 2012 5:05:04 PM
Actually, I don't know if I agree. Maybe rich, unscrupulous big business owners or the politicians who's pockets their lining call it business, but if what they're doing is really considered unfair by the majority of people who know about it usually said people refer to said 'business' by far more appropriate titles.
If what they're saying is that business in and of itself means stealing from the poor, then that's just plain silly. |
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 patchgrabber
Male, 30-39, Canada
5283 Posts
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Monday, May 28, 2012 8:37:36 AM
...in order to compete, the airport authority offered that private security company extra money on their contract, with the stipulation that the money go directly to the employees so that they would effectively make $9.50/hr. The security company TURNED DOWN FREE MONEY, because they didn't want to give it to employees, they wanted to keep it for themselves. THAT business owner is robbing his employees of that "fair" wage you mentioned. |
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patchgrabber
Male, 30-39, Canada
5283 Posts
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Monday, May 28, 2012 8:35:38 AM
When a person starts a business, hires some 'poor' people and pays them a fair, agreed upon wage, he's STEALING FROM THEM!
This is a typical argument. "Just...start a business, and all your problems will be solved!" Ridiculous on the face of it. Most people don't want to "start a business", they just want to work a job. No, the business owner is not *necessarily* stealing, but let me give you an example from my own life:
I used to work at screening at an airport. Before 9/11 we were paid $6.85/hr (minimum wage at the time was $6.60/hr). The janitors started at $7.00/hr, which doesn't exactly seem to suit the importance of my job vs. theirs. There was a private security company that got a tender to do the general security, and their employees started at $7.00/hr as well. After 9/11, our wage was upped to $11.00/hr, and many of the private security people were applying to work with us... |
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 RytWing
Male, 30-39, Western US
183 Posts
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Sunday, May 27, 2012 11:38:49 PM
Dollars equal votes. Keep voting for rich peoples products and they remain rich. Simple enough? |
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 OldOllie
Male, 50-59, Midwest US
8742 Posts
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Sunday, May 27, 2012 10:34:06 PM
When liberals call business robbery, it's called fascism. |
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 8BitHero
Male, 18-29, Europe
5420 Posts
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Sunday, May 27, 2012 5:10:31 PM
So true! |
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 OutWest
Male, 50-59, Western US
548 Posts
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Sunday, May 27, 2012 2:24:23 PM
Ah.... the Poor Poor |
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 AvatarJohn
Male, 30-39, Southern US
488 Posts
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Sunday, May 27, 2012 12:59:02 PM
I think you're confusing the word "deep" for the word "cliche". Or maybe just "boring". |
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 lawndartsftw
Male, 40-49, Canada
1815 Posts
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Sunday, May 27, 2012 8:16:36 AM
There is truth to this..... |
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LordJim
Male, 50-59, Europe
2412 Posts
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Sunday, May 27, 2012 7:47:27 AM
'WTF is the point in robbing the poor anyway? Thats like going to the desert when you want a drink.'
Numbers. If you get the system working right the rich can rob millions of poor people simultaneously with little effor and no risk. In fact, once you have set the system up it runs itself.
And I am not talking about people who have started their own business using their own money, skill and hard graft. Good luck to them. But the people at the top of insurance companies, utility corporations etc did not do that.
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 MeGrendel
Male, 40-49, Southern US
2337 Posts
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Sunday, May 27, 2012 7:11:59 AM
Groogle-"In a way the rich are stealing our lives and our freedoms on a daily basis."
"BAAAA"
mykunter-"profiting from my labor"
If YOU'RE not profiting from your labor, you're a pitiful worker.
Of course the business owner(s) who employ you are profiting from your labor, otherwise you wouldn't be worth employing.
Please remember: The sole purpose of a business is to make a profit for the owner(s) and investor(s) (you know, the people who invested and risked their very own wealth, without who's risk you'd not have a job) is to make money. In order to do so, you reach an agreed upon amount of wage to complete tasks for them.
If you're not happy with the amount you're being paid, then you're obviously not worth that much to them. (hint: if you're 40 and your only job skill is flipping burgers, it's not McDonald's fault you can't make a living wage). |
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 mykunter
Male, 40-49, Southern US
1587 Posts
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Sunday, May 27, 2012 5:58:05 AM
Everybody steals from me. The poor rob me through taxes for public assistance programs. The rich rob through their inflated goods and services and profiting from my labor.
I COULD start my own business, work for myself and not buy STUFF. But I would still have to pay taxes and I have absolutely no say in how that money is spent. That is the greater offense to me... |
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 paddy215
Male, 18-29, Europe
1548 Posts
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Sunday, May 27, 2012 4:03:46 AM
No idea how I managed to get the words "could" and "good" mixed up. I'm very hungover ... Irish on a Sunday. |
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paddy215
Male, 18-29, Europe
1548 Posts
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Sunday, May 27, 2012 4:02:39 AM
When the rich make could business decisions to increase their wealth they are called thieves. When the poor rob from the rich they are called hero's.
WTF is the point in robbing the poor anyway? Thats like going to the desert when you want a drink. |
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 carmium
Female, 50-59, Canada
4059 Posts
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Saturday, May 26, 2012 11:52:04 PM
Groogle:
So if I put out $20 PLUS pay you $30 and get back $40, I'M making money?! Seems to me you put in 20 and got back 30... hmmm... |
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 Suicism
Male, 18-29, Western US
3534 Posts
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Saturday, May 26, 2012 11:14:16 PM
Kleptocracy hypocrisy. |
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 Groogle
Male, 30-39, Canada
2180 Posts
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Saturday, May 26, 2012 10:45:29 PM
If we each put $20 in a box, And I sell you the box for $30, you make a $10 profit. Infinite money? |
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Groogle
Male, 30-39, Canada
2180 Posts
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Saturday, May 26, 2012 10:40:01 PM
"5Cats:When a person starts a business, hires some 'poor' people and pays them a fair, agreed upon wage, he's STEALING FROM THEM! Of course!"
It's kind of a long story but you need to look at how the economical system works and notice that money is only a tool to dictate who does what in our society. In a way the rich are stealing our lives and our freedoms on a daily basis. |
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 5Cats
Male, 40-49, Canada
16973 Posts
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Saturday, May 26, 2012 9:26:26 PM
ic.
When a person starts a business, hires some 'poor' people and pays them a fair, agreed upon wage, he's STEALING FROM THEM!
Of course! |
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randomxnp
Male, 30-39, Europe
774 Posts
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Saturday, May 26, 2012 6:58:05 PM
Sort of true as in being not true at all, being just ignorant communist propaganda? |
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MeGrendel
Male, 40-49, Southern US
2337 Posts
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Saturday, May 26, 2012 6:57:20 PM
lemonhatred-"A few benefit from the work of many"
Bill Gates benefitted from his ideas, and the work of the 'many' (which he paid) and sold his product to the 'many' (which they paid for).
In creating his products and services, he directly created hundreds of thousands of jobsa and indirectly it probably numbers in the millions.
Again, what did Bill Gates steal from the poor?
If any of those 'many' don't feel like contributing to Gates, they can: a) refuse to work for him and b) refuse to buy his products.
Don't get me wrong, I don't like Gates, but that does not negate the facts. |
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 Fatninja01
Male, 18-29, Australia
23995 Posts
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Saturday, May 26, 2012 6:18:33 PM
When the poor steal from the rich to give to the poor its called stealing. |
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 RAGEMONSTER
Male, 18-29, Western US
424 Posts
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Saturday, May 26, 2012 6:02:28 PM
STFU lemon! You have no face! Also, everyone knows that poor people are stupid.... |
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 chicagojay
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
858 Posts
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Saturday, May 26, 2012 5:37:50 PM
lemon, keep saying it. Still not true. |
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lemonhatred
Male, 18-29, Europe
9 Posts
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Saturday, May 26, 2012 4:54:01 PM
I'm so sorry, it just keeps posting |
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