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Teen Advice From The Office's Mindy Kaling [Pic]

Hits: 12834 | Rating: (2.9) | Category: Misc. | Added by: fancylad
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MacGuffin
Female, 30-39, Europe
 2597 Posts
Saturday, May 26, 2012 6:01:01 AM
whilst i was out walking the dog, i bumped into a friend who was upset and is smiling now


You really should save golden moments like that for tweeting to your army of fans on Twitter; those are the type of insights into your rare and interesting life that they no doubt live for.

Have you heard the concept that self praise is no honour, at all? So far, all I've seen in this thread are people wilfully confusing the separate concepts of being an actual big star that is widely admired and looked up to with doing fairly normative things like making one friend smile at a time (not a stranger, not a sick child, not a starving African migrant, but *your friend* FFS), and others deluded enough to think that merely being an ambulance chaser means the world looks up to you as "a giant". There's a reason you're having to tell me yourselves how great you apparently are: you're the only ones that believe it.

robosnitz
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 2752 Posts
Saturday, May 26, 2012 4:02:48 AM
hawt

tika12001
Female, 18-29, Australia
 2195 Posts
Saturday, May 26, 2012 3:12:46 AM
I was never real popular in school. I had my small circle of friends and that was pretty much it. I've had so many people get in contact after high school and say that they wished they'd taken more of an effort to be my friend, as I am such a nice person. I think everyone in high school is so obsessed with finding themselves that it's easy for some of us to get lost.
tl:dr version? High school sucks.
Man am I leaving loads of comments tonight. Hi everyone.

Fancysucksss
Male, 18-29, Western US
 1051 Posts
Saturday, May 26, 2012 2:02:01 AM
My biggest achievement in highschool was me dropping all those people who talked poo about everyone else. aka popular folk and hanging out with the artsy fartsy crowd. I enjoy people who have real things to talk about. some may have smelled and still talked poo about the "popular population" but It was actually just. Those are when times started getting interesting :)

lawndartsftw
Male, 40-49, Canada
 1815 Posts
Friday, May 25, 2012 10:00:38 PM
Stay classy, ripper398....

chubbence
Male, 18-29, Canada
 17 Posts
Friday, May 25, 2012 7:56:46 PM
She is very attractive.

Ripper398
Male, 18-29, Western US
 1318 Posts
Friday, May 25, 2012 2:55:56 PM
I wad in specul education, and naw I worke in a mill cleanan poop off the floures in the bathrome. If dem big mightey people from highschool could see me now them be jealous of my acomplashmints.

MrOrange
Male, 30-39, Europe
 2349 Posts
Friday, May 25, 2012 1:12:03 PM
hahaha sorry macguffin, but in response to me talking crap, thats your opinion of my opinion, so yess you are going to think it's crap becuase i don't agree with you, but whilst i was out walking the dog, i bumped into a friend who was upset and is smiling now, and i feel good about that, you stil see people saying stupid stuff, who do you think had a better day?

8BitHero
Male, 18-29, Europe
 5426 Posts
Friday, May 25, 2012 12:26:25 PM
She's cute!

turdburglar
Male, 30-39, Western US
 3892 Posts
Friday, May 25, 2012 11:59:21 AM
look at you two, filling up the comments section with your stupid argument about what a "star" is. In the context that mindy used "star", it wasn't exclusively meaning hollywood actress or being famous. "Star" as she used it, just meant having a good life, job, family, or whatever. Ones own personal success.
@macguffin - you sure like to argue. With anyone who will listen or argue back. Maybe it is you who should be the lawyer. You could talk them to death in the courtroom.

maddux32
Male, 30-39, Western US
 918 Posts
Friday, May 25, 2012 11:19:39 AM
"Yep. You're a lawyer alright."

;)

MacGuffin
Female, 30-39, Europe
 2597 Posts
Friday, May 25, 2012 11:12:38 AM
I think for purposes of this discussion we have to separate the objective and subjective standards of what a star is.


Yep. You're a lawyer alright.

maddux32
Male, 30-39, Western US
 918 Posts
Friday, May 25, 2012 11:10:04 AM
I think for purposes of this discussion we have to separate the objective and subjective standards of what a star is. To my 6 year old daughter, I'm a rock star, and for me that is enough. To my peers, I am a rising star. For me, that's all I worked for, all I cared to achieve, and for most, that is enough.

If an individual achieves what they set out to do, and are viewed as stars in their profession by their peers, by their families, and by their friends, and they are successful by societies standards (if not obscenely rich), how could they not be labeled a star? This is the kind of star I believe she was referring to, and with that in mind, it requires an expansion of the definition of star so as to preserve the message and intent behind her quote.

maddux32
Male, 30-39, Western US
 918 Posts
Friday, May 25, 2012 11:03:15 AM
That's a reasonable definition. And Doctors and lawyers would certainly be out of that category, specifically lawyers since you have to work with them up close to gain any respect for them, since in most cases there inherently is none.

However, as it applies to the original quote, I do not believe she intended the use of the word "Star" to be construed so narrowly. Clearly, she was referring to the word "Star" to mean something much more encompassing, so as to rehabilitate those whose image of themselves in high school is something less than stellar. Which by subjective standards could include kids who are viewed objectively as "stars". For what it was meant for, I think the quote works, and I would champion it just the same.

MacGuffin
Female, 30-39, Europe
 2597 Posts
Friday, May 25, 2012 10:55:25 AM
What would you define a star to be?


I've touched upon a couple of possible definitions below, but in the context of this thread, with particular relation to the way the phrase was used in the quote that opened this thread, I think it means 'someone that is admired within a wide social sphere, both by their immediate peers and by society at large, and who is individually recognisable by a wide cross-section of society as having admirable or desirable traits, skills or abilities'. They are people who, as individuals, are famous and admired for what they do, whether it's playing sports, starring in films, writing popular books or making notable scientific advances. They're not merely people who do a vital job like doctors and nurses (but who are not individually recognisable or noteworthy), and they're certainly not just people who merely make a reasonable salary and manage to pay a mortgage as per Swoop's pals.

maddux32
Male, 30-39, Western US
 918 Posts
Friday, May 25, 2012 10:47:05 AM
"I'd say that the legal profession just about breaks even: they do as much harm as they do good. I mean, any profession that can convince the US Government that torture is OK, can't be all that much of a force for good."

I agree with this wholeheartedly, and such is the adversarial nature of the profession. Good lawyers vs. bad lawyers; it's just how it is. My question to you is this. What would you define a star to be? Is your definition limited to Nobel Prize winners, or those who contribute some advancement to society? If that's the case, how do you measure that?

What is the test to measure an individuals contribution or the effect they have had on culture? In my estimation, any measurement you can come up with would be subjective at best. Meaning one could never have a concrete answer. Which leads to the conclusion that one could subjectively feel like a star based on their self evaluation of themselves, and for our definition, this would be sufficient.

MacGuffin
Female, 30-39, Europe
 2597 Posts
Friday, May 25, 2012 10:41:46 AM
I've been a lawyer for only a couple years. But I'm certainly aware of the stigma imposed upon lawyers in all areas of practice.


I'm aware of the stereotype too – for some people, lawyers are in the same category as estate agents and police officers. I don't agree with the stereotype in all cases. I just don't think any of them are "big stars", either in the sense of being famous in the way that film stars are, or in the more pragmatic definition that might otherwise include 'people that do a vital job, and do it well', such as doctors and nurses. In terms of net benefit to society, I'd say that the legal profession just about breaks even: they do as much harm as they do good. I mean, any profession that can convince the US Government that torture is OK, can't be all that much of a force for good.

maddux32
Male, 30-39, Western US
 918 Posts
Friday, May 25, 2012 10:39:44 AM
This portion of my post was cut off for some reason...

I've never seen a lawyer not viewed by their client, as a giant.

I know there are scum bag lawyers out there. I've opposed many of them in my line of work. And I"m not saying that all lawyers are stars, in the objective sense that one would label someone a star. However, subjectively, the way that I personally view honest attorneys, practicing because of a belief in justice that runs fundamentally opposed to the inherent stigma placed upon lawyers at the outset; those people to me are stars. Those lawyers, to their clients, are stars. And for that kind of lawyer, that is enough.

maddux32
Male, 30-39, Western US
 918 Posts
Friday, May 25, 2012 10:35:41 AM
"Please, maddux, I thought you were quite intelligent, but if you honestly think the world looks to anyone in the legal profession as "giants", you're sadly mistaken."

"Anyone".

I've been a lawyer for only a couple years. But I'm certainly aware of the stigma imposed upon lawyers in all areas of practice. These stigma's are birthed by peoples misconceptions of what lawyers are, and what they do. Personally, I place no weight in individuals uneducated, naive opinions. If I did, I'm not sure that I would have become a lawyer.

My focus, and the reason that I do what I do, when I could make substantially more money in say, criminal defense (as opposed to prosecution), or corporate law, is for what happens at the end. When I have successfully prosecuted a case, or successfully wielded my discretion in a manner that gives some unfortunate individual a second chance in life. At that moment...in that time and space, I've never seen a l

HolyGod
Male, 30-39, Western US
 5173 Posts
Friday, May 25, 2012 10:34:48 AM
maddux32

Gotta go with Mac and that one. Lawyers, doctors, accountants, etc are certainly respected and admired, but nobody considers them "STARS".

HolyGod
Male, 30-39, Western US
 5173 Posts
Friday, May 25, 2012 10:31:58 AM
Well who is a "STAR"? I'm sure most models were stars in high school because they look like models. I'm sure most actors were stars in high school because they are generally good looking and charismatic. I'm damn sure most professional athletes were stars in high school. A lot of CEOs and politicians were probably stars in high school because it takes a certain charisma, confidence, and drive to reach those pinnacles.

MacGuffin
Female, 30-39, Europe
 2597 Posts
Friday, May 25, 2012 10:31:00 AM
I work in a profession full of successful people, stars within the legal industry to which the world looks to and addresses as giants.


Please, maddux, I thought you were quite intelligent, but if you honestly think the world looks to anyone in the legal profession as "giants", you're sadly mistaken. How many lawyers have won a Nobel prize, do you think? Or an Oscar? Or have fan clubs? There are trappings to being "a big star" that do not characterise the trappings of your profession, however much you personally enjoy it, and however much your peers may respect you.

maddux32
Male, 30-39, Western US
 918 Posts
Friday, May 25, 2012 10:18:26 AM
@Macguffin,

I work in a profession full of successful people, stars within the legal industry to which the world looks to and addresses as giants. I can assure you, factually, that almost none of them were "big stars" in high school. Myself included. I was a dorky kid on the wrestling team. I was awkward at best. Now, I put bad guys in jail.

I'm not sure what your definition of a "big star" entails. All I can say is after a successful prosecution, when I put away an individual who has been the root of misery for an entire set of family and friends, having the opportunity to speak with them afterwards and receive their heartfelt thank you, I can imagine no other feeling in the world that would make me feel like a bigger star.

MacGuffin
Female, 30-39, Europe
 2597 Posts
Friday, May 25, 2012 10:15:57 AM
MacGuffin, the glass ceiling hurts, doesn't it? Aaaaaanyway, it's not completely true. I was sort of a zero during high-school, but now I am still sort of a zero. I mean, if MacGuffin is right that is. Glad she did not teach me about being successful back when I was growing up! Peace out!


No, wait, don't go........swoop wants to know if he can have a photograph taken with you to put on his mantelpiece.

MacGuffin
Female, 30-39, Europe
 2597 Posts
Friday, May 25, 2012 10:11:15 AM
Not gonna waist my time trying to change your mind.


Is this about what I wrote in the "America you're fat" thread, then?

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