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President Obama And The Fight for LGBT Rights

Hits: 5881 | Rating: (2.2) | Category: News & Politics | Added by: fancylad
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eddy666
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 522 Posts
Friday, May 25, 2012 10:41:11 PM
lol if I were 5cats, why would I have any reason make another account?

eddy666
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 522 Posts
Friday, May 25, 2012 2:06:44 PM
@markust123 Blue Oyster Cult isn't even obscure and 5cats recommended I put that on my profile or whatever since I didn't have anything previously. You were participating in that thread when it happened, you silly goose.

eddy666
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 522 Posts
Friday, May 25, 2012 12:39:27 PM
lol if I were 5cats, why would I have any reason make another account?

markust123
Male, 40-49, Western US
 3784 Posts
Friday, May 25, 2012 12:02:39 PM
"@markust123 I think you're just jealous that 5cats and I have this awesome and incredibly fun job, and Obama doesn't give you poo for doing the same thing."

I have a very positive and fun job that pays quite well thank you.

Here's a tip @eddy666. Or should I say 5Cats. If your favorite band is something obscure as Blue Oyster Cult don't put that down as the only identifier in your fake person. The other give away was you were defending 5Cats yesterday when he was nowhere to be seen and had not been mentioned.

It's good to see that you are working though 5Cats. Even if it is something as scummy as being a paid commenter - it's a job. And that is awesome.

eddy666
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 522 Posts
Friday, May 25, 2012 11:21:56 AM
not have been there in the first place if the southern states were allowed to practice their constitutional right to secede and make their own decisions. The southern politicians were mostly racist, but a lot of southerners were actually starting to show opposition to slavery, even during the civil war. (Blacks that served the confederacy in the war were promised their freedom and some were even promised land)

eddy666
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 522 Posts
Friday, May 25, 2012 11:19:26 AM
@HolyGod
"Certain things should be state issues, but things like human rights should not."
I agree completely, but I think claiming that states rights is a form of institutionalized racism is nothing more than media flaim-baiting.

"There isn't institutionalized racism because the federal government stepped in. If it wasn't for the national guard forcing equality on the southern states in the 60s who knows how long it would have taken them to have it on their own. And it will take the federal government to force gay equality on them as well. "
An interesting point. I'll agree that the federal government actually did do a decent job in getting rid of institutionalized racism at that time, and I agree that the federal government should get involved if such laws ever come up again, as laws such as these are unconstitutional. However, like I've said before, my opinion is that the rampant racism that was present in the Jim Crowe south may

eddy666
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 522 Posts
Friday, May 25, 2012 11:15:03 AM
@HolyGod
"
Doesn't it seem a little hypocritical to say that it is all up to congress when it comes to changing things like this but then rag on Obama when things you want done don't get done? You can't have it both ways. Either he is in charge and gets credit or you can't blame him."

I think you misunderstood me. I wasn't ragging on Obama for all of these things not getting done. I was upset that he made these promises that he most likely wouldn't have been able to single-handedly do in the first place, and then he doesn't even so much as address these issues. All those things he said were empty promises. Why are the things he's saying now about gay rights any different? My point is that I don't think the position of president is supposed to have as much power or influence as the media and American public seem to attach to it. This country isn't supposed to be ruled by one man.

HolyGod
Male, 30-39, Western US
 4469 Posts
Friday, May 25, 2012 10:22:35 AM
Eddy666

There isn't institutionalized racism because the federal government stepped in. If it wasn't for the national guard forcing equality on the southern states in the 60s who knows how long it would have taken them to have it on their own. And it will take the federal government to force gay equality on them as well.

Certain things should be state issues, but things like human rights should not.

HolyGod
Male, 30-39, Western US
 4469 Posts
Friday, May 25, 2012 10:18:21 AM
eddy666

"Obama's current support of gay rights does NOTHING to actually help the gay community. It's up to congress and the lawmakers to create legislation that will create or destroy equality. Obama can only sign it into law if it is made a federal issue. "

Doesn't it seem a little hypocritical to say that it is all up to congress when it comes to changing things like this but then rag on Obama when things you want done don't get done? You can't have it both ways. Either he is in charge and gets credit or you can't blame him.

eddy666
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 522 Posts
Friday, May 25, 2012 10:14:49 AM
@@markust123 I think you're just jealous that 5cats and I have this awesome and incredibly fun job, and Obama doesn't give you poo for doing the same thing.

eddy666
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 522 Posts
Friday, May 25, 2012 10:12:37 AM
@FoolsPrussia Also, I'd like to discuss more what the man DID than what he SAID. So, if you want to continue this debate, I'd like to discuss more about his actions than his speeches, since speeches can only do so much good as the president.

eddy666
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 522 Posts
Friday, May 25, 2012 10:10:26 AM
"states rights are just another word for racism"

That's a million times wrong. States rights are about letting a small, more controlled, and less diverse population decide what is best for THEIR state. (For example, the needs of New York are probably WAY different than the needs of Alabama on many different issues: education, industry and bussiness, etc.) It is also about giving the people more control over their own government, which is what a lot of the founding fathers had in mind when creating our government from the start. Pulling the race card isn't even relevant anymore. There isn't really any institutionalized racism these days anymore, it's all mostly instigated and egged on by individuals. (and the news media) In fact, there are a lot of local black politicians in the south. Probably not as many as there should be due to prejudice from individual voters, but the system itself isn't
preventing them from being there.

eddy666
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 522 Posts
Friday, May 25, 2012 10:04:28 AM
@markust123 Markust is right guys, NO ONE could possibly have a negative opinion about our lord and savior Obama. 5cats, myself, and anyone that speaks negatively about our president are paid to do so.

Now, Markie, I'm going to actually comment on your argument: Obama has not been the first president or politician to support gay rights, so it's NOT a big deal. Bill Clinton supported gay rights if I remember correctly, and plenty of politicians do as well. However, I will say again, Obama's current support of gay rights does NOTHING to actually help the gay community. It's up to congress and the lawmakers to create legislation that will create or destroy equality. Obama can only sign it into law if it is made a federal issue.

eddy666
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 522 Posts
Friday, May 25, 2012 9:57:49 AM
@FoolsPrussia One small article (the one that wikipedia actually cites) does not overwrite the NUMEROUS racist things he has said. Also, I would like to remind you that people were thrown in jail for slandering him around the time of the civil war, and many history has been skewed and mis-written to represent Lincoln as a hero and not the murderer that he was.

markust123
Male, 40-49, Western US
 3784 Posts
Friday, May 25, 2012 9:32:30 AM
The President of the United States being in favor of gay marriage and equality is a huge deal. This is one of the many reasons a paid commenter like @eddy666/@5Cats is sent to sites like this to distract from Obama's accomplishments. It's a classic Karl Rove move and pretty amusing to watch once you recognize it.

turdburglar
Male, 30-39, Western US
 3059 Posts
Friday, May 25, 2012 8:23:42 AM
Bla, bla, bla....Still bored.

Musuko42
Male, 18-29, Europe
 2742 Posts
Friday, May 25, 2012 7:45:52 AM
@insane_ai

"Keep it in the closet, I prefer DADT for everyone."

Straight people need to stop with the public displays of affection! They insist on rubbing their relationships in our faces. They even have this ceremony called "marriage" where they kiss right in front of all their friends and family!

And worse, the liberal media has FILLED our screens and newspapers with this filth! I can't turn on the television without seeing some straight couple making out.

How many male politicians must we see with their arm around the waist of their wives whilst out campaigning? And they kiss them too! In public no less! Sickening!

I've got nothing against breeders, but why must they rub it in our faces like that? Keep it in the damn closet!

To misquote GlaDOS: That's you! That's how dumb you sound!

dm2754
Male, 40-49, Western US
 3040 Posts
Friday, May 25, 2012 6:51:09 AM
LGBT?
say gay you whore!

insane_ai
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
 680 Posts
Friday, May 25, 2012 6:42:23 AM
These arguments aren't about equal rights, they are about special rights. Keep it in the closet, I prefer DADT for everyone.

ChrisP12
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 186 Posts
Friday, May 25, 2012 6:40:15 AM
Obama still took the chicken sh*t road making it a states rights issue. Please point out any other instance in which Obama has supported a states rights issue. He agreed with James "the bitter peanut" Carter who said on Charlie Rose that states rights are just another word for racism.
It was a political calculation forced by Joe Biden who was making his own political calculation.

8BitHero
Male, 18-29, Europe
 5426 Posts
Friday, May 25, 2012 5:47:33 AM
About time. It's sad that Obama had to "evolve"(as he put).

tsiemens
Male, 30-39, Canada
 500 Posts
Friday, May 25, 2012 2:30:37 AM
wow lady gaga, there's a great role model for america *rolls eyes*

FoolsPrussia
Male, 30-39, Western US
 3163 Posts
Thursday, May 24, 2012 10:18:55 PM
'He didn't pull the emancipation proclamation until 2 years into the civil war, and even when he did it only freed the slaves in the south'

Yes, but he came out against slavery prior to his election.

Link

OldOllie
Male, 60-69, Midwest US
 11744 Posts
Thursday, May 24, 2012 9:22:44 PM
He's all talk. This is just to raise money from gullible people he's fooled into thinking he gives a rat's @$$ about them.

leesah
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
 1577 Posts
Thursday, May 24, 2012 9:07:26 PM
"@FoolsPrussia Here is a small list of some of the horrid things the man that is now on our penny did."

Is "ruin mammy's for everyone" on there, because I'm a little bitter about that.

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