 CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 14374 Posts
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Saturday, May 19, 2012 3:26:11 AM
Zira: The whole bill will be throw out on it's ear because the other parts of the bill are dependent on the individual mandate.
I don't expect you to have listened to the whole of each sides arguments in front of the Supreme Court, most people haven't. It's hours long, very detailed and, unless you're very legally astute, would likely bore you to death.
It was discussed at considerable length that the bill could not stand on it's own without the mandate and it was obvious that the 'Supremes' didn't believe that it could and thus the whole house of cards would have to fall.
Obama's grand scheme for socialized health care is about to fail. What makes that failure even more significant is that for those 2 years he could've worked on and passed a budget, speaking of which we still don't have one. |
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 QueenZira
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
1762 Posts
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Friday, May 18, 2012 1:14:02 PM
Crakr, the bishops are whining about what insurance employees of catholic institutions can get, whether or not those employees happen to be catholic. And whether or not patients of catholic hospitals get insurance, catholic or not. It affects everyone.
The only part of Health Care Reform currently being argued before SCOTUS is the Individual Mandate, ie. get insurance or be fined for not having insurance. Which Rs were totally ok with not yet 20 yrs ago (my how times have changed). All the other stuff, like birth control coverage/ kids stay on their parent's insurance until age 26, is not being litigated. |
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 patchgrabber
Male, 30-39, Canada
5252 Posts
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Friday, May 18, 2012 7:40:23 AM
Catholicism does not have a monopoly on marriage.
Exactly. I love how something that pre-dates recorded history is all of a sudden the property of any religion. |
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 Doiknowyou
Male, 18-29, Canada
195 Posts
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Friday, May 18, 2012 6:29:39 AM
Uh...Mitt is a mormon and Barack is in The United Church of Christ which emphasizes the freedom of the individual conscience over adherence to creeds or hierarchical authority...As far as Catholicism it's kinda lose lose isn't it? |
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 keith2
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
2317 Posts
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Friday, May 18, 2012 4:46:16 AM
Wow that 1% will really do anything to get you to vote for their guy #1!! |
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 RevWubby
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
57 Posts
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Friday, May 18, 2012 3:50:01 AM
Oh look, the catholic church wants to get into politics. Looks like we have a new tax revenue source on our hands. |
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phyrro
Male, 30-39, Canada
7 Posts
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Friday, May 18, 2012 3:10:59 AM
I watched the whole video waiting for a punchline at the end...but it never came. |
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 CoyoteKing
Male, 18-29, Southern US
2993 Posts
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Friday, May 18, 2012 2:26:11 AM
religion is a scary beast. a cancer on society if you will. |
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jamie76
Male, 30-39, Western US
2249 Posts
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Friday, May 18, 2012 1:35:13 AM
Let's try this one more time.
Christians do not own the concept of marriage. Marriage is FAR older than Christianity.
so, give that, you can hardly decide for everyone else who can or cannot get married.
anyone trying to stop another person from marrying the person they love is nothing more than a bigot.
stop hiding behind your BS excuse of religious beliefs. |
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CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
14374 Posts
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Friday, May 18, 2012 1:25:10 AM
Zira: You act like what type of insurance Catholics wish to pay for effects you, when it doesn't.
Obamacare is going to be struck down anyways, which will make the issue of forcing Catholics to pay for abortions, in their insurance, a moot issue. |
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 carmium
Female, 50-59, Canada
4029 Posts
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Friday, May 18, 2012 12:34:12 AM
I. Hate. Religion. |
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QueenZira
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
1762 Posts
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Thursday, May 17, 2012 10:41:34 PM
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QueenZira
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
1762 Posts
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Thursday, May 17, 2012 10:37:05 PM
So you've agreed to go harvest all those myriad used menstrual pads like we discussed? You're a boorish tool. |
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 SilverThread
Male, 30-39, Western US
3360 Posts
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Thursday, May 17, 2012 9:30:02 PM
The last time the Government was controlled by the Catholic Church we remember as the Dark Ages. |
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 5Cats
Male, 40-49, Canada
16922 Posts
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Thursday, May 17, 2012 9:24:37 PM
@QueenZira: @LillianDulci and I had a discussion about this it's true. We came to realize that : A)abortificats ARE specifically included in ObamaCare and B)the "morning after pill" works several days after sex, making it an abortion pill, not just prevention.
Also: C) Obama is SO IGNORENT of economic reality he honestly believes Insurance Companies will give stuff away FOR FREE!
Something NOT ONE liberal IABer has addressed...
Now, how do the Muslims feel about this? Oh! The MSM has avoided THAT question like the plague!!! |
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photomstr
Male, 50-59, Canada
767 Posts
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Thursday, May 17, 2012 8:28:37 PM
My parents left the church in disgust 30 years ago. Bunch a pedos (I don't mean Mom and Dad). I turned atheist when I was 12. Have fun you superstitious suckers. |
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 LitCandle
Male, 13-17, Eastern US
49 Posts
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Thursday, May 17, 2012 8:06:18 PM
"Vote Correctly Or You Will Go To Hell!"
How could you have possibly come up with that conclusion from watching this video? 
Further more:
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 Fancysucksss
Male, 18-29, Western US
1051 Posts
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Thursday, May 17, 2012 7:35:10 PM
I recently just signed up to start voting. I never ever thought I would. But I really don't want to just sit on the sidelines and know I didn't do a damn thing if that joker Romney becomes our countries leader. |
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 Otto67
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
438 Posts
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Thursday, May 17, 2012 7:33:19 PM
I bet the church wouldn't have as much of a problem with contraception if alter boys could get impregnated by sodomy... |
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 RdDan
Male, 30-39, Europe
663 Posts
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Thursday, May 17, 2012 7:25:15 PM
Catholicism does not have a monopoly on marriage.
But it does seem to have one on paedophile relocation initiatives |
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 LazyMe484
Male, 18-29, Canada
10503 Posts
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Thursday, May 17, 2012 6:06:44 PM
... which is why you should vote for Obama, who, it appears, has given up entirely, however is still better than that clown Romney.
Despite the epic music it looks like you're in for another lose/epic lose vote. |
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 zombieraptur
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
54 Posts
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Thursday, May 17, 2012 6:02:56 PM
The churches blatant ignorance and involvement in politics only hurts them. They shoot themselves in the foot and I hope their self righteous bullpoo destroys them |
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 T3hHippie
Male, 18-29, Canada
166 Posts
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Thursday, May 17, 2012 4:57:39 PM
Wow. What the flying ?? Do "Christians" actually understand freedom? I love it when a religious person is against abortions and believe the child up for adoption. Do they not realise that the orphanage's are at like max capacity in America? Also do they not realise the more people there are in the world, the more food and money is needed for that one child. I laugh when they also are against abortions but are for the death penalty. Silly Christians, politics are for intelligent people. **note that when I refer to religious people, I know that not all religious people are like this and I am only referring to the extra-crazy ones. |
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 ilfg
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
338 Posts
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Thursday, May 17, 2012 4:44:52 PM
What I'm getting from this is: instead of picking a name on the list, they should write in the name of Pope Whattheflipshisname |
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thesandwich
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
150 Posts
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Thursday, May 17, 2012 4:36:10 PM
Oh how I love the "Obama crossed the line" with regards to insurance. But when Bush started faith-based initiatives, you know giving money to religious groups who don't pay taxes, not a single one of them complained.
It's nice to know that at the end of the day, regardless of whatever views a group may have, money always wins in the end. |
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