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Paul Cameron Claims Gays Want Everyone to "Try it

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5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 26636 Posts
Monday, May 21, 2012 9:08:48 AM
@Viking: #2 Valid point! But then again, the hetero- males could be repeat offenders too, eh?

I'm simply stating that there's disproportionately MORE homosexual males assaulting boys than herterosexual males assaulting girls.

Proportions: 1 male in 15 (apx, it's less than 1:10 but more than 1:20, ok?) is homosexual, right? So if the ratio of molestation were the same for het & hom, there'd be a LOT less boys molested by males. idk why you guys cannot see that.

#3 I've never said anything of the sort: I've simply applied reasoning to the numbers.

@Cajun: Anomalies are normal in evolution! In prosperous times they help keep the population from getting too high. In tough times they die off early, Mother Nature's Rules.

Ghosties
Female, 18-29, Canada
 3 Posts
Monday, May 21, 2012 6:18:03 AM
"Same gay time, same gay channel"

All I could think of when he mentioned that homosexuality is 24/7

Viking864
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 1408 Posts
Sunday, May 20, 2012 5:29:33 PM
@5Cats:
1 - I listed my source in regards to 3 to 1 ratio so I stand by them. The 2nd source was from a survey in San Francisco. I’ll be more than happy to provide additional backup for my claims as the ratio is valid based on other surveys.

2 - You assume every episode of abuse was by one perp and there is no repeat offender. I am only going to the extreme to illustrate my point, theatrically ever instance of SCA could have been committed by only one person. Obviously this is not the case however it is generally believed that those who sexually abuse young kids are repeat offenders. (David Lisak, a psychologist from the University of Massachusetts).

3. I have yet to see any “hard facts” that show homosexuality leads to pedophilia.

Cajun247
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 10349 Posts
Sunday, May 20, 2012 4:34:25 PM
Studies have even shown that children of homosexual parents are no more likely than their heterosexual counterparts to identify as homosexuals later in life.

Cajun247
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 10349 Posts
Sunday, May 20, 2012 4:27:44 PM
You've been socialized since you were very young, and learned to do what "the pack" does, just like animals, since humans ARE animals after all


That doesn't mean it is worth changing. Even if that were true we shouldn't have these "anomalies" called homosexuals.

Cajun247
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 10349 Posts
Sunday, May 20, 2012 4:16:12 PM
Your math still does not make any sense 5Cats. Your numbers not logical, your point NOT proven. You repeated your claim, that does not add clarity.

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 26636 Posts
Sunday, May 20, 2012 3:57:46 PM
@Viking: Ok, that's fair.
However, YOUR OWN SOURCE says that 16% of boys were SCA and 25% of girls. That's NOT HARDLY 3:1 ratio, correct? It's 3:2, half your claim.

60% male assaults on boys. Yet homosexuals are less than 10% of the male population, correct? That's still a massive over-representation. Not 5X but more like 8X!! I note that the F>girl is 6%, which is actually about the % of female homosexuals, a little less even.

So thanks for the info, you've (inadvertantly I presume) proven my overall point!! Even increased it!!!

Viking864
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 1408 Posts
Sunday, May 20, 2012 3:09:19 PM
@5Cats
1 - In regards to a male being born attractive to females is not a learned response, it's more of a chemical (ie phermons) and the way we are programmed.

2 - According to American Journal of Preventive Medicine , in an article entitled: "Long-Term Consequences of Childhood Sexual Abuse by Gender of Victim" pages 430-438, females were responsible for 40% of the male childhood sexual abuse. Your numbers thus are not logical.

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 26636 Posts
Sunday, May 20, 2012 1:55:27 PM
most pedophiles commit their acts against someone they know very closely.

@Cajun that has nothing to do with the "Born that way" arguement. It just means people like to have sex with people they know, most of the time. Drunken nights in Vegas aside...

I am attracted to grown women. I was born this way.

No @jtreb, you weren't. You've been socialized since you were very young, and learned to do what "the pack" does, just like animals, since humans ARE animals after all...

@Cajun: if 3X more girls are molested than boys, but there's 15X more hetero- than homo- men (assuming the number of females molesting children is low) then it's 5X more likely that a homo- man will molest a child. It's not reality but that's how it works.

Cajun247
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 10349 Posts
Sunday, May 20, 2012 11:24:17 AM
so that means a homo man is 5X more likely to molest than a hetero man


That math makes no sense.

jtrebowski
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 3261 Posts
Sunday, May 20, 2012 11:09:57 AM
5cats: "PLUS the pedophiles also claim to be "born that way" which is what gets my nickers in a knot when the homosexualists do it!!"

I am attracted to grown women. I was born this way. Just because it was a choice for you doesn't mean it applies to everyone.

Cajun247
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 10349 Posts
Sunday, May 20, 2012 10:45:13 AM
Angilion: Those politicians you refer to typically speak out against anything that deviates from a heterosexual relationship or heteronormativity. So no a heterosexual politician who loudly denounces homosexual activity while satisfying their own sexual curiosity is still a hypocrite.

Cajun247
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 10349 Posts
Sunday, May 20, 2012 10:22:32 AM
PLUS the pedophiles also claim to be "born that way" which is what gets my nickers in a knot when the homosexualists do it!!


They'd be wrong most pedophiles commit their acts against someone they know very closely.

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 26636 Posts
Sunday, May 20, 2012 9:30:33 AM
@Viking: So girls are 3X more likely, but male heteros outnumber homos by about 15X, so that means a homo man is 5X more likely to molest than a hetero man. BY YOUR FIGURES (I'm making no such claim, I'm pointing out what his facts mean, ok?)

Thanks @Angilion! This is about logic and reasoning, I'm glad someone 'gets it!'

@Gerry1: From the 'born vs learned' threads. The 'born' side consistantly claimed that gay acts 'made you gay' in both humans and animals, k? Applying that reasoning here, men having gay sex with boys = homosexual, period.

PLUS the pedophiles also claim to be "born that way" which is what gets my nickers in a knot when the homosexualists do it!!

Draculya
Male, 40-49, Asia
 12741 Posts
Sunday, May 20, 2012 9:30:22 AM
"Family Research Institute" basically, that means Bigotry Inc.

"Right Wing Watch" - is that like "Night Watch"?

slut_etta
Female, 50-59, Southern US
 3461 Posts
Sunday, May 20, 2012 8:52:38 AM
i didn't know i liked broccoli with cheese until i tried it.

Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
 33911 Posts
Sunday, May 20, 2012 7:34:15 AM

Don't pick on 5Cats.
He can't help being born a Heterosexualist.

PierreJeanFR
Male, 40-49, Europe
 1337 Posts
Sunday, May 20, 2012 6:49:05 AM
paul cameron is a sodomite, so is 5Cats.

Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
 11744 Posts
Sunday, May 20, 2012 5:12:06 AM
There are some great examples of this logical fallacy going on here:

No true Scotsman!




So...next time a politician who speaks against homosexuality is found to have been having homosexual sex often and is publically derided as a hypocrite as a result, ruining their political career, who here is going to speak out in their favour and say they're not hypocrites?

You're going to do that, Cajun247? After all, you think that those men are NOT homosexual, right? They're not having romantic homosexual relationships, they're having homosexual sex.

Fancysucksss
Male, 18-29, Western US
 1051 Posts
Sunday, May 20, 2012 5:11:43 AM
Omg. these people need to be retrained.

Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
 11744 Posts
Sunday, May 20, 2012 4:59:40 AM
If gays want every kid to try it, why are all the pedophiles straight men?


They're not, obviously. You're just showing your own irrational prejudice, just like someone saying that all the paedophiles are gay men, or someone saying that all drug dealers aren't "whites", or someone saying that all abusers of any kind are male. Same prejudice, different groups - "all <bad thing> is done by <target group>". Or, if you take it a bit further, "all <target group> do <bad thing>".

photomstr
Male, 50-59, Canada
 767 Posts
Sunday, May 20, 2012 3:12:54 AM
there is no god, just leave the gays alone

ExtraCredit
Male, 50-59, Midwest US
 452 Posts
Saturday, May 19, 2012 10:26:10 PM
"...and maybe is forced..."
Every child? Like we make them go to school or brush their teeth?
This guy sounds authoritative on the subject. We should totally take him seriously. 5cats too.

Cajun247
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 10349 Posts
Saturday, May 19, 2012 6:01:55 PM
Oh, those gay men over there doing homosexual acts are not REALLY gay men


Of course not, they're called MSM. Being straight or gay doesn't just entail sexual behavoir it's romantic as well. The word "bisexual" also has different meaning pending on context. A bisexual person is capable of having romantic relationships with either gender or simply has no preference either way, whereas a bisexual act can involve both sexes.

Viking864
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 1408 Posts
Saturday, May 19, 2012 4:59:09 PM
Nobody is denying that Pedophile Groups exist, however saying that gays drive pedophile an outright falsehood. THe University of New Hampshire published a Sexual Abuse Factsheet (by Emily M. Douglas and David Finkelhor) that show girls are 3x's more likely to be a victim of sexual abuse then a boy will. Using the logic that some anti-gay activist use, then being heterosexual is 3 times more likely to cause pedophile then being homosexual.

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