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Colbert On North Carolina [Pic]

Hits: 10974 | Rating: (3.1) | Category: News & Politics | Added by: kitteh9lives
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MechBFP
Male, 18-29, Canada
 829 Posts
Monday, May 14, 2012 6:11:41 AM
PopCap just got owned hard.

Musuko42
Male, 18-29, Europe
 2850 Posts
Monday, May 14, 2012 4:36:22 AM
@PopCap

Two close friends of mine are a gay couple. I'll call them Dan and Steve. These aren't their real names.

Dan is in his 70s. Steve is in his 60s. They both live primarily on Dan's pension. They own their own home together, and have done since they became a couple, over 25 years ago.

They recently got a civil partnership, which in my country gives the same rights as marriage. They did this because one day, Dan will die.

Without the rights that civil partnership gives them, Steve will not have visiting rights to be with his dying partner in hospital. Steve will not be able to continue collecting Dan's pension, and will end up without any income. Steve will not directly inherit ownership of their home, and will have to sell it in order to pay the inheritance tax.

They got "married" so that Steve will be safe in his home and life after Dan dies. And after being together for over 25 years, they have every right to want that.

PopCap
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 638 Posts
Sunday, May 13, 2012 3:05:57 PM
Gay people can't be gay without marriage? Marriage is, hands down, the least successful social institution ever invented. Only an idiot needs a stupid ceremony to be faithful to a partner. Fighting to be married is like fighting for the privilege of eating only white rice every day. Morons.

jkfld
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
 138 Posts
Sunday, May 13, 2012 10:08:13 AM
@mcboozerilla: The game is lost far before you and the fundamentalist reach for your bibles. It's lost when you both agree there is a supernatural realm containing an all-powerful yet human-like intelligence who created the world and people, who psychically transmitted his will to certain people that wrote it down, who still sends psychic directives to people today, and who ceaselessly watches us and judges our fitness for eternal life based on our behavior and thoughts. Assumptions like these allow for so much wiggle room on the issues (2000 of years of theological debate has led not to consensus, but to a proliferation of disagreements and an estimated 38,000 Christian denominations) that a retreat by many Christians to the fundamentalist position and the "seductive simplicity of certainty" it offers is unavoidable.

Hedkwab
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 340 Posts
Sunday, May 13, 2012 8:25:16 AM
Nice -generalization- there, 8bithero, you ignorant stinking bag of douche.

"AMUUURICA!
Full of scumbags. The fact you can vote in allowing discrimination is pathetic. "

8BitHero
Male, 18-29, Europe
 5426 Posts
Sunday, May 13, 2012 4:57:24 AM
AMUUURICA!
Full of scumbags. The fact you can vote in allowing discrimination is pathetic.

mcboozerilla
Male, 30-39, Europe
 649 Posts
Sunday, May 13, 2012 2:34:59 AM
jkfld, how does the Bible support the fundamentalist stance on gay marriage better than the moderate version? Because of a few lines from Leviticus and one from Paul's letters? Have you ever even heard a moderate or liberal Christian argument based on theology supporting gay marriage?

Christians are not bound by Mosaic Law. Our Law is based on solely two commandments, not even ten. And Paul himself states that sometimes he gives his opinion and sometimes he's speaking directly for Christ. Paul also says that women should cover their hair in church. I kind of doubt that was very important to Jesus based on what Jesus did teach in the Gospels.

In fact, Paul wrote that the reason to marry was so not to screw around. Then hell, let gays marry too. Why should gay people be having fun while all the married people never have sex?

Moderate and liberal Christians don't confront fundies on issues of theology because we are all sick and tired of them and their n

r66tramp
Male, 40-49, Canada
 678 Posts
Saturday, May 12, 2012 10:14:56 PM
"Unimpeded reason is the greatest enemy of bigotry."

That's poetry if I ever read it!
Well done!
I tip my hat in yer direction...

jkfld
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
 138 Posts
Saturday, May 12, 2012 9:13:23 PM
Moderate Christians can't confront these raving lunatics on biblical grounds because the bible supports the fundamentalist position far better than the moderate position. Moderates are loathe to use reason to attack the fundamentalist position for fear of accidentally exposing *their own* delusional religious beliefs to its withering light. So moderate religionists of all stripes and creeds weakly call for tolerance using vague appeals to human kindness, which does nothing but disgust and embolden the fundamentalists. The only ones who are free to fully investigate religion without bias, to discuss it objectively, and to confront its evils directly are those who don't automatically give religious ideas more reverence than other ideas. Unimpeded reason is the greatest enemy of bigotry.

jkfld
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
 138 Posts
Saturday, May 12, 2012 9:13:04 PM
@jamie76: I agree wholeheartedly.

The problem is that fundamentalist Christians do not believe their ideas apply only to Christians. They believe their ideas apply to *all* human beings, regardless of religious affiliation or non-affiliation. They insist their received ideas form the most accurate and truthful description of reality that will ever be available to mankind. They believe all individuals *and societies* who ignore the "truth" of the bible do so at their own peril. They insist biblical morality is the only objectively good and correct morality. They believe that when a person claims not to feel guilt and shame over behavior that runs counter to God's will as laid out in the bible, that person is either lying, willfully disobeying God, tragically misguided, or downright evil. They'll be damned if they're going to let such people drag America down into perdition, so they do everything they can to oppose them--including subverting the constitution.

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 26600 Posts
Saturday, May 12, 2012 8:26:45 PM



(lolz for @Gerry1!)

Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
 33911 Posts
Saturday, May 12, 2012 4:38:14 PM

5Cats,
"@GErry1 I bet you say that to all the pretty boys"

I was acquitted! If the DA couldn't prove it I know you can't.

jamie76
Male, 30-39, Western US
 2350 Posts
Saturday, May 12, 2012 4:26:02 PM
jkfld

America is NOT a tribe, it is a country. America is NOT Christian, is has many religions and favors none of them above the other by law (if not by the people).

If the idea of two consenting adults of the same sex getting married damages your idea of marriage, then you should not be married in the first place because clearly you do not understand what marriage is, how private it is and are too concerned with others to fully concentrate on your own spouse.

jkfld
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
 138 Posts
Saturday, May 12, 2012 3:45:36 PM
If America is primarily a Christian tribe, (who happens to have allowed a provisional democratic republic to form under constitutional law while it waits for the return of the Messiah) every legal marriage secretly doubles as a religious sex-sanctification ritual recognized by God and Christendom. If homosexual marriages are legally recognized, two concepts are threatened: that America is a Christian tribe, and that marriage under American law is an inherently Christian ritual. The ability to comfortably hold those two concepts as true is what authoritarian Christians are fighting to keep from losing, and voting down gay marriage is part of that fight.

jkfld
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
 138 Posts
Saturday, May 12, 2012 3:44:30 PM
According to the old and new testaments of the Bible, procreative sex between a man and a woman who are married to each other is the only kind of sexual activity that does not disgust, anger, and disappoint God. Heterosexual marriage is the Christian's *one and only* ticket to a guilt-free and shame-free sex life. When Christians say homosexual marriage destroys the "sanctity" of marriage, they don't mean the integrity of the social institution, as Colbert and most other people assume. They mean the sanctifying function of marriage whereby it renders the sexual relationship "pure and free from sin" in the eyes of God.

jamie76
Male, 30-39, Western US
 2350 Posts
Saturday, May 12, 2012 3:34:51 PM
5Cats

Colbert is not what liberals think conservatives are...he is parodying the ridiculousness that has become the GOP.

also, someone mentioned getting 5Cats to be quiet...sorry, but he might just be a automatic trolling machine sent back in time to kill all pleasure and hope anyone actually gets from talking with others on a message board and there is no known way to stop him.

logic and facts bounce off him like spit wads on a tanks hull so don't bother. when you see the 5Cats coming, take cover, sit very still and hope it just keeps going.

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 26600 Posts
Saturday, May 12, 2012 3:28:14 PM
How much to get you to keep quiet?

@GErry1 I bet you say that to all the pretty boys... Ah-OOO-GAH!

(I'd say "rimshot" but you'd get all excited...)
(yes that a joke for both @Smuttley AND @Gerry!)

monsterzero
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 348 Posts
Saturday, May 12, 2012 3:27:37 PM
@bataleon27:
Really?
Then why are gays pushing the issue so badly if "Life isn't about you and what you want?"
Hypocritical much?
It's a two way street my friend. There's room enough for both of us to get by if we keep our noses out of each others business.


Selous
Male, 30-39, Australia
 1205 Posts
Saturday, May 12, 2012 3:03:51 PM
lets the gays marry, everyone deserves to live in hell

bataleon27
Male, 18-29, Europe
 1179 Posts
Saturday, May 12, 2012 2:39:44 PM
@monsterzero - because life is not always about you and what you want. if you choose not to allow gay people the right to do as they wish, you're just as bad as the people that took your rights away from you.
I'm sure the majority of gay people who wish to get married did not take away your rights, so why punish them?

monsterzero
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 348 Posts
Saturday, May 12, 2012 2:22:31 PM
I really don't care if gays marry, I don't agree with homosexuality but who am I to say someone can't be happy.
The question I have though is, "Why should I vote to create rights for others, when others have voted to take some of my rights away?"

Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
 33911 Posts
Saturday, May 12, 2012 2:20:18 PM

BAZZINGA!

Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
 33911 Posts
Saturday, May 12, 2012 2:20:06 PM

5Cats,
"@Gerry1: I'm not getting paid to be funny:"

How much to get you to keep quiet?

soundman655
Male, 50-59, Canada
 1560 Posts
Saturday, May 12, 2012 1:36:10 PM
A "christian" conservative rarely thinks!!

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 26600 Posts
Saturday, May 12, 2012 1:03:09 PM
@SmutleyButt: English Lesson:
Mentioning THAT it is stupid =/= saying HOW it is stupid.

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