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Man Hit Into Coma After Complimenting Man's Car

Hits: 11105 | Rating: (2.9) | Category: News & Politics | Added by: fancylad
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Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 681 Posts
Tuesday, May 08, 2012 7:48:01 PM
mischief83, considering the way the guy supposedly responded ("thats a stupid question") the question was either not asked in a rude manner, or was not taken in a rude way.

Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 174 Posts
Tuesday, May 08, 2012 8:03:39 AM
One consideration as the devil's advocate: is it possible the comment was done in a condescending way? Like, "Pssh, nice car man. What kind of rims ya got, brah. LOL" Now, obviously, does that warrant the response it got? No. But it would explain better in my mind why this guy lost his temper. I just can't even conceive of this sort of reaction unless that's how the conversation went. Still agree that he should be penalized for the full extent of the law, and the "put people to sleep comment" plus domestic violence background make it obvious this guy is probably just a terrible human being

Male, 30-39, Europe
 401 Posts
Tuesday, May 08, 2012 2:58:58 AM
steroids... at least he has a small penis.

Male, 50-59, Canada
 28527 Posts
Monday, May 07, 2012 7:57:57 PM
The Champ by MacLean and MacLean!
It's SO FUNNY! But has a couple of cuss words.

The Champ - Not Original
But still kinda funny.

It's banhammer time for you, lolz! NOT!

Anyhow, jokes about over-reacting are funny, in real life? Not even a little. This dirt-bag should get the book thrown at him.

Male, 50-59, Canada
 28527 Posts
Monday, May 07, 2012 7:42:07 PM

Apparently this is a picture of Lehman. Big fella, small brain.

People commenting about the "glass in the courtroom" comment? Grow up, grow a pair and stfu.

Male, 18-29, Western US
 1052 Posts
Monday, May 07, 2012 4:40:26 PM

He gets charged with murder too.

Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 14177 Posts
Monday, May 07, 2012 3:31:56 PM

In a previous forum me and budiah along with others argued over budiah saying Lenin was a beter leader than Lincoln. I said pretty much what you said. I can't make it anymore clear than that.

Male, 50-59, Eastern US
 4421 Posts
Monday, May 07, 2012 3:07:50 PM
Sorry, but I honestly have no idea what you were saying.

Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 14177 Posts
Monday, May 07, 2012 3:04:06 PM

No I won't STFU make me... oh that's right you can't. How does one shut up text anyways????

Here let me sing you the song of
my people. (a few swears so NSFW)

Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 14177 Posts
Monday, May 07, 2012 3:00:41 PM

Tell it to Budiah that was our argument awhile ago. Lenin was beter than Lincoln was his argument which he couldn't back up.

Male, 18-29, Southern US
 164 Posts
Monday, May 07, 2012 2:49:07 PM
So what can happen if the guy doesn't die until after this douche is found guilty of assault?

Male, 30-39, Western US
 928 Posts
Monday, May 07, 2012 2:42:47 PM
Also, they will have the option, depending on the laws in the state, to get him with felony murder, where any person's death that occurs during the commission of a felony (deadly assault) constitutes what is called felony murder. Laws differ from state to state, but depending on the penalties for 2nd degree and involuntary manslaughter. It would be easier to prove felony murder because there is no requirement on the state to prove intent. All they have to do is prove the felony. The death being collateral with the felony is automatic felony murder.

Male, 30-39, Western US
 928 Posts
Monday, May 07, 2012 2:38:09 PM

I think they'll try for 2nd degree. Myself being a prosecutor, for cases like this you try for the highest penalty possible knowing that the jury will still be able to get him for the lessor charge if it doesn't go perfectly in trial. I'd charge him with 2nd degree, absolutely. If it doesn't work out, they can give him the lesser charge of involuntary manslaughter.

Male, 30-39, Western US
 928 Posts
Monday, May 07, 2012 2:33:36 PM

You sir, are correct. That's all double jeopardy is. Can't be charged for two crimes for the same incident, can't be re-tried after acquittal in a separate criminal trial. If multiple charges for one incident, the lesser charges are absorbed into the largest crime. Charges may be escalated where necessary.

Perhaps it's easier to understand simply by saying, they can't charge you for the murder AND the assault, you have to pick one, and murder is the larger crime, so the assault is absorbed into the murder. If acquitted on the murder charges in a state court, he can't be recharged for the same crime (murder), or the lesser crime (assault).

Male, 50-59, Eastern US
 4421 Posts
Monday, May 07, 2012 2:28:10 PM
Judging by the story it would appear that he didn't fall down, he was knocked down. That's a VERY big distinction. Could even have been unconscious, & possibly brain damaged, before he hit the ground. I have no doubt the charges will be elevated at least to involuntary manslaughter if the victim dies. Only the perp, his lawyer, and (maybe) the perp's family will act surprised!

Male, 50-59, Eastern US
 4421 Posts
Monday, May 07, 2012 2:18:27 PM
As I recall (I'm certainly not a lawyer) the Double Jeopardy rule keeps a person from being charged a 2nd time with the same crime in a different court. For example, if found "not guilty" in a state court, can't be retried in a federal court on the same charge. Charges can be changed, I believe, when the outcome of the crime changes, as when a wounded victim then dies. Let's hear from the lawyers on this.
@McGovern1981 - Lincoln's war freed slaves. Lenin's war enslaved a nation. No comparison. Try not to be an idiot.

Male, 40-49, Canada
 678 Posts
Monday, May 07, 2012 2:03:24 PM
Assault charges would be the limit. Lets face it, the chap fell down and hit his coconut.

Male, 30-39, Western US
 928 Posts
Monday, May 07, 2012 1:54:04 PM

The problem is proving intent. Right now, at best, they have a reckless assault with intent to commit serious bodily harm. Intent will be key if the kid dies. In order to prove a murder, you have to be able to prove that he intended the murder. Intent is easier to prove when a deadly weapon is involved, but where all he did was punch him in the face twice, its possible that the most they'll be able to convict him on will be Involuntary Manslaughter. If the kid dies, he'll likely be charged with 2nd degree murder, and the jury will be given instructions after the trial that if they don't believe intent was proven, they can still find him guilty of involuntary manslaughter.

Male, 30-39, Western US
 928 Posts
Monday, May 07, 2012 1:45:12 PM

They can charge him now for assault, and if the kid dies, the charges escalate to murder II. All double jeopardy means is that you can be charged for two crimes for the same incident. The charge itself, however, can be escalated. Charging him now doesn't lock in that charge forever.

Male, 30-39, Western US
 928 Posts
Monday, May 07, 2012 1:42:12 PM


Female, 18-29, Midwest US
 44 Posts
Monday, May 07, 2012 1:03:46 PM
What the hell is the matter with that guy? Idiot

Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 521 Posts
Monday, May 07, 2012 10:55:54 AM
How does putting a man into a coma not count as attempted murder?

Male, 40-49, Western US
 3208 Posts
Monday, May 07, 2012 10:50:02 AM
"rims you got"
ya i can see how thats the wrong thing to say to someone

Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 183 Posts
Monday, May 07, 2012 10:22:42 AM
This is precisely the reason the death penalty exists. Why it's becoming completely abolished, even for clear cut cases like this, is beyond me.

Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 14177 Posts
Monday, May 07, 2012 10:22:08 AM
"Hey look I'm a pseudo-intellectual that can't see the relation between two assualt cases beacause there's a point I can't rebut! So I'll be condescending."

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