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darkmagic14n
Male, 18-29, Western US
 1633 Posts
Tuesday, May 01, 2012 7:58:36 AM
this is what NNoamfer was referring to. I remember a 2nd part of this video as well, talking about keeping the same distance and it alleviated it, but I can't seem to find it.

no speedometer is 100% accurate, this is part of the problem. then on major freeways, you have an influx of cars during peak hours, with minimal leaving the throughway. if you were to leave at least 2 car gap between you and the person in front of you, you wouldn't have to put on the brakes [sic"> when someone 'cuts' in front of you, just let off the gas to back off some.

wolladude
Male, 30-39, Europe
 342 Posts
Tuesday, May 01, 2012 6:04:56 AM
People just need to realize, that they are not stuck in traffic.....they are traffic.

Musuko42
Male, 18-29, Europe
 2820 Posts
Monday, April 30, 2012 11:50:38 PM
@faaaaq

As Nadia mentioned, yes it is true; it's all about staying off the brakes. When we break because the car in front of us has braked, we tend to overbrake by a tiny fraction. Then the car behind you overbrakes a little more, and the car behind them, and the car behind them.

This quickly leads to complete stoppage further down the line, if the traffic is heavy enough. I think it's called a "ghost jam".

Even without a full jam forming, the compound effect of all those tiny overbrakes adds up to "drive fast and brake" traffic moving more slowly over all than "drive a little slower without braking" traffic.

TL,DR: when the traffic's flowing, don't rush to stick your nose up the bum of the car in front.

Zuriel
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
 533 Posts
Monday, April 30, 2012 6:31:13 PM
one ton ford has no problem finding the correct lane to be in... it's always my lane. never mind i've had to push people out of the way before... but hey' it's Ohio

Nickel2
Male, 50-59, Europe
 4387 Posts
Monday, April 30, 2012 6:22:41 PM
Nnoamfer is correct. In the UK we have mandatory variable speed limits on some motorways, enforced by speed-cameras. On the M25 (London Orbital), this works fairly well, preventing compressions and rarefactions in traffic flow. Big fines are available for those who chose to ignore the speed limit, no escapes!

SarahofBorg
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 3573 Posts
Monday, April 30, 2012 5:10:03 PM
This happened to me today. When I'm bored in traffic I pick a car that stands out in the other lane to compare myself to and I get a better idea how much ahead or behind I'm getting. Sometimes despite it seeming like the other lane is getting ahead it's just your imagination.

McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 13224 Posts
Monday, April 30, 2012 1:47:23 PM
Those dickwads that alway change back and forth between lanes are usually what create the traffic beside accidents.

nadia61
Female, 18-29, Canada
 14 Posts
Monday, April 30, 2012 1:32:26 PM
Actually, NNoamfer is totally correct. This has indeed been proven to help ease traffic. If we allow a bit more space in between us and the car in front, there's less use of the break pedal since you have more room in which to be comfortable and react. As a result of you not having to tap the breaks, the people behind you also don't have to, and so on. Then traffic flows more smoothly with less stopping.

faaaaq
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 671 Posts
Monday, April 30, 2012 1:13:27 PM
NNoamfer, that doesnt make sense. if we all kept further from eachother in a traffic jam situation, traffic would go just as slow. it might SEEM to go faster since we would have a little wiggle room, but other than there maybe being more room to switch lanes when you need to, i cant imagine it would do any good. more bad, for that matter, since less cars would be able to be on the road at the same time if there is more space between each car, and that would lead to the traffic jam taking up a larger overall footprint...probably spreading the traffic jam jow to other roads and intersections that would otherwise be unaffected.

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 24392 Posts
Monday, April 30, 2012 11:43:21 AM
I think @NNoamfer and @spltra13 (to some degree) are talking about the "caterpillar effect" where normal traffic is slowed to a halt for no apparent reason.

hauswyfe
Female, 30-39, Southern US
 275 Posts
Monday, April 30, 2012 10:13:55 AM
My husband frequently suffers from this. It's called "everybody else saw that lane moving faster and changed lanes the same time you did" syndrome.

Matwix_2004
Male, 18-29, Europe
 2105 Posts
Monday, April 30, 2012 9:51:01 AM
NNoamfer - No, traffic jams occur because we all need to be in the same place, at the same time - usually to and/or from work, or to and/or from holiday/vacation.

NNoamfer
Male, 18-29, Europe
 1192 Posts
Monday, April 30, 2012 9:25:52 AM
I read somewhere that most traffic jams occur when drivers are riding too close to each other.

It said that in order to break traffic jams, all you need to do is make sure to keep a certain distance rom the car in front of you, I've seen a video which claims the same.

I also saw an experiment which concluded that when drivers try to prevent traffic jams by maintaining similar speed to the other cars, it doesn't work. But when the try to maintain a certain distance from other drivers, it seems to work quite well.

After all though, I am not a driver and have never driven in my life, so I would recommend doing a research yourself.

spultra13
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 175 Posts
Monday, April 30, 2012 9:24:30 AM
traffic lanes work on beat patterns, a sort of resonance. It's sort of like a compressional (longitudinal) wave. When the cars up front start moving, it takes a while for each one after that to react, creating a big wave of movement down the line, which will eventually be damped out again. If you can predict this frequency, and wait a long time after the car ahead of you starts moving, then move ahead and time it so when you get to the next car they've started moving again, you can effectively shut down the oscillation and get the flow moving.

darkmagic14n
Male, 18-29, Western US
 1633 Posts
Monday, April 30, 2012 9:21:32 AM
yet another amazing post by kitteh9

just barely beats out a cat standing in the middle of a bed

LillianDulci
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 2696 Posts
Monday, April 30, 2012 9:00:25 AM
I just stay in the same lane ._.

patchgrabber
Male, 30-39, Canada
 5689 Posts
Monday, April 30, 2012 8:59:26 AM
Two words: Office Space.

patchouly
Male, 40-49, Canada
 4531 Posts
Monday, April 30, 2012 8:58:43 AM
Crap! Don't give it away! It's all the idiots leaving my lane for the new lane that makes my lane move fast again. If you starting pointing that out, my lane will never free up and start moving. Please, let the idiots continue on their stupid little way.

Nickel2
Male, 50-59, Europe
 4387 Posts
Monday, April 30, 2012 8:56:30 AM
Follow the delivery trucks, they are professional drivers. Their buddies ahead tell them which lane is moving freely, and they are high enough to see what is going on.

Cajun247
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 10224 Posts
Monday, April 30, 2012 8:56:22 AM
Usually because everyone else is trying to get into the fastlane.

incubus_inc
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 955 Posts
Monday, April 30, 2012 8:45:31 AM
office space

unmercyfuldu
Male, 18-29, Western US
 768 Posts
Monday, April 30, 2012 8:44:37 AM
Because everyone stupid like you is doing the same thing. If you do this... you are causing the traffic jam. If everyone sat in their lane and didn't cause the other lane to break by switching into it, the jam would correct itself.

nettech98
Male, 50-59, Eastern US
 969 Posts
Monday, April 30, 2012 8:44:35 AM
Same thing happens if you change checkout lines at the store...

Buiadh
Male, 30-39, Europe
 6653 Posts
Monday, April 30, 2012 8:44:33 AM
It's because it's not just you that thinks to do this. Its 50% of your lane.

kitteh9lives
Female, 70 & Over, Eastern US
 1398 Posts
Monday, April 30, 2012 8:25:57 AM
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