 OldOllie
Male, 50-59, Midwest US
 8722 Posts
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Saturday, April 21, 2012 8:19:14 PM
...most Cali colleges are hardly accepting any new students.
...with, of course, that exceedingly rare exception of an ENTIRE FRESHMEN CLASS EVERY DAMNED YEAR!
No new students? Is that what they told you, 97? They probably just didn't want to your your feelings. |
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 xiquiripat
Male, 18-29, Western US
2419 Posts
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Saturday, April 21, 2012 12:09:11 PM
"Almost always these policies are done for really good motives," said Gary Orfield, who directs the Civil Rights Project at UCLA
It's called feel-good liberalism. It rarely works. |
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 97e4ad
Male, 50-59, Western US
36 Posts
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Saturday, April 21, 2012 11:05:22 AM
A. Most of them aren't stupid, they're just lazy.
B. College prep classes should be OFFERED to everyone, not forced, as should vocational classes. Most high schoolers are not college material. Neither are most college students.
C. It's not a "backhanded way to boost college tuition" since most Cali colleges are hardly accepting any new students. |
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mcboozerilla
Male, 30-39, Europe
649 Posts
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Saturday, April 21, 2012 9:18:17 AM
Not everybody should have to take college prep classes. I'd be happy if they had to learn the basics very well, but that includes more history and civics and science classes, not just reading, writing and basic math. |
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 PoopNoodle
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
397 Posts
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Friday, April 20, 2012 11:33:34 PM
"It would be nice if they'd just teach them to read and write."
You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink |
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bridog6996
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
562 Posts
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Friday, April 20, 2012 10:51:52 PM
That's totally the answer. Kids are too stupid? Make school easier. That's great for the long term.
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OldOllie
Male, 50-59, Midwest US
8722 Posts
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Friday, April 20, 2012 9:54:43 PM
It would be nice if they'd just teach them to read and write. |
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 SCfan
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
1663 Posts
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Friday, April 20, 2012 4:35:04 PM
It is a backhanded way to boost tuition at UCLA by creating more room for out-of-state students. |
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Wowummwow
Male, 18-29, Western US
263 Posts
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Friday, April 20, 2012 3:07:16 PM
"No, the kids from private schools will be."
Private schools have lower standards due to rampant grade inflation. |
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 patchgrabber
Male, 30-39, Canada
5254 Posts
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Friday, April 20, 2012 1:58:57 PM
yes...America...doesn't make people smarter..it just lowers the graduation bar.
^this. And Canada is set to follow, unfortunately. |
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 Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
25591 Posts
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Friday, April 20, 2012 1:24:58 PM
"Keep in mind that those people will be the law-makers of the future"
No, the kids from private schools will be. These kids will be on welfare. |
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 ForSquirel
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
994 Posts
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Friday, April 20, 2012 12:54:05 PM
"Sorry, easing up unrealistic and pointless standards makes sense. Sorry, if you are going to be a cashier or garbageman, do you really need a bachelor's degree?"
no, but one day your kid(s) will be in the 4th grade and they're going to ask for help on their math homework. Wouldn't want to look stupid now would we? |
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 TrustusJones
Male, 30-39, Western US
61 Posts
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Friday, April 20, 2012 12:51:54 PM
@verbosity -Do you believe most people know what they are going to do for a living when they are in high school? It helps to have a breadth of knowledge when you decide to change your mind. |
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 skytz1337
Male, 18-29, Europe
689 Posts
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Friday, April 20, 2012 12:49:39 PM
yes...America...doesn't make people smarter..it just lowers the graduation bar.
Keep in mind that those people will be the law-makers of the future. |
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verbosity
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
83 Posts
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Friday, April 20, 2012 12:37:15 PM
From the article: "Eight years ago, the Los Angeles Board of Education adopted an ambitious plan to have all students take college-prep classes to raise academic standards in the nation's second-largest school district.
Am I the only one who thinks it is inane to think every single high-school student is college bound? College is not free - it is a major investment, and one who's cost is rising drastically. Who really benefits?
Sorry, easing up unrealistic and pointless standards makes sense. Sorry, if you are going to be a cashier or garbageman, do you really need a bachelor's degree? |
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TrustusJones
Male, 30-39, Western US
61 Posts
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Friday, April 20, 2012 12:08:06 PM
I've seen a lot of stupid people who have made it through college. It's funny how the work force will raise it's standards and the schools do the opposite. |
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 Solvent
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
2697 Posts
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Friday, April 20, 2012 11:49:45 AM
The system works! |
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Wowummwow
Male, 18-29, Western US
263 Posts
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Friday, April 20, 2012 11:47:56 AM
"If a kid can't handle highschool, they don't deserve a diploma."
NCLB legislation changed the general requirements to graduate to match the entry requirements for college. In essence forcing all students onto the college track and gutting practical arts/vocational classes (auto-shop, wood shop, textiles, etc.) since they are not a 'successful' career path according to the politicians.
Many kids know that they aren't going to college so there is little point for them to stick with the program the way it currently stands. |
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Wowummwow
Male, 18-29, Western US
263 Posts
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Friday, April 20, 2012 11:40:03 AM
"Y'know, if all parents are gonna do is act as if it is free daycare, they shouldn't complain when their kids learn a lot less."
Fixed it for you Baelzar.
On the other side, due to lack of funding over the past several years in the state and layoffs, teachers are dealing with 40-45 students per class. Some classes are so overcrowded that kids have to sit on the floor. |
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 xfactormunky
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
106 Posts
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Friday, April 20, 2012 11:37:09 AM
I don't understand why they are so concerned about kids dropping out. If a kid can't handle highschool, they don't deserve a diploma. Stuff like this is the reason why there are so many people with college degrees that don't deserve them, making them close to worthless. |
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 clockwork208
Male, 30-39, Western US
834 Posts
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Friday, April 20, 2012 11:17:29 AM
Why lift the children when you can just drop the education level? Lots easier. And let's never, ever mention parental responsibility for educational goals. EVER. |
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BoredFrank
Male, 40-49, Southern US
1306 Posts
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Friday, April 20, 2012 10:53:50 AM
I used to laugh as I read job applications. "I be this." I done that. I wantz a jobs. Plz gives me teh job.
Now I just weep. The schools are cranking out whole classes of lazy illiterates. Yeah, the future, it's not as bright as it once looked... |
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 8BitHero
Male, 18-29, Europe
5417 Posts
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Friday, April 20, 2012 10:46:58 AM
It's good overall though. Nothing to stop you from aiming higher anyway |
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Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
25591 Posts
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Friday, April 20, 2012 10:42:21 AM
But the media portrays teachers as "Heros"...every one of them.
It cannot be that they have collectively failed us!
Say it ain't so! |
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 Pooptart19
Male, 18-29, Southern US
2099 Posts
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Friday, April 20, 2012 10:18:26 AM
Public education. You're doing it wrong. |
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