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A Fundamental Christian's Biggest Dilemma [Pic]

Hits: 13168 | Rating: (2.3) | Category: News & Politics | Added by: eugenius
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StSusieB
Female, 18-29, Southern US
 15 Posts
Wednesday, April 18, 2012 4:14:24 PM
You can be pro-life and pro-gay rights...

Just saying...

Kalimata
Male, 30-39, Canada
 660 Posts
Monday, April 16, 2012 8:09:34 AM
"When a woman was caught in adultery and brought to Jesus for punishment, Jesus said 'Let him who is without sin among you cast the first stone'. A rock came raining down from the sky, crushing the woman. Jesus looked up and said 'Awe come on dad! Will you stop that!'"

Fixed. And yes, I'm sorry.

TheGuySmiley
Male, 18-29, Canada
 1222 Posts
Sunday, April 15, 2012 8:18:39 AM
This sticker was likely made by a person who accepts prejudice, and who thinks that a Christian is someone who judges anothers and doesn't love others.

Only God can judge who is Christian or not, but we can know them by their love.

God said: Love one another as i have loved you.

When a woman was caught in adultery and brought to Jesus for punishment, Jesus said "Let him who is among you cast the first stone". No one cast any stones at her, because all of us are sinners.

JetPink
Female, 18-29, Southern US
 61 Posts
Sunday, April 15, 2012 7:29:50 AM
Actually I would, so when it grows up I could throw stones at it. Kidding of course.

davedamon200
Male, 18-29, Europe
 1 Posts
Sunday, April 15, 2012 7:28:47 AM
@ShudBWorking You're making an absurd comparison.
Psychopath decides to kill and maim people; people get hurt
Homosexual decides to insert his penis into the well lubricated anus of another consenting homosexual, literally NO ONE gets hurt.
The idea that you can compare violent, destructive, selfish tendancies, and their social suppression, with the consenting relationships between two people of the same gender is the most insanely stupid thing I've ever hurt.
If you don't like gay sex/love/marriage, don't do it yourself.....
dratwad

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 24965 Posts
Saturday, April 14, 2012 4:47:50 PM
The next Christian-baiting homosexuality thread that comes along?

I have a plan, a wicked, EVIL plan!

Mwaahahahaha!

ShudBWorking
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 88 Posts
Saturday, April 14, 2012 3:09:55 PM
Re: Camael
Your statement: "did it ever occur to you that maybe encouraging gay people to supress their natural feelings is probably detrimental to their mental health?"
I will reiterate my previous point. Many people have "natural feelings" to kill or steal, yet they are required to suppress those feelings as well. We then do not wonder if the suppression of those tendencies are detrimental to their health because we as a society believe that there tendencies are more detrimental to society, and their mental health on that subject is therefore a non-issue. The same should be said about those who have tendencies to practice homosexuality. This also debases the "homosexuality is found in nature" argument, because they also sling crap, but we do not in a functioning society.

Zeegrr60
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 1926 Posts
Saturday, April 14, 2012 9:09:08 AM
Didn't that longhaired hippie say to love each other as we love ourselves?Christ was ok, but christians suck.

Tiredofnicks
Male, 30-39, Europe
 4806 Posts
Saturday, April 14, 2012 1:50:15 AM
5Cats: When trolling stops being profitable.

camael
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 48 Posts
Friday, April 13, 2012 11:24:32 PM
There's really no arguing with religous people. They have the ultimate cop out in saying 'but this is the random crap I believe in'. But seriously, I know you guys have to go along with what your religion says and all, but did it ever occur to you that maybe encouraging gay people to supress their natural feelings is probably detrimental to their mental health? Not to mention heterosexual relationships are also based on the impulses of being a physical being, like sex, reproduction, etc. It's no more/less holy.

ukulelemike
Male, 40-49, Western US
 129 Posts
Friday, April 13, 2012 10:56:13 PM
Being a 'fundamentalist', I'll say that I don't hate gays, nor want them to die. The lifestyle is a sin-so is bigamy, fornication, adultery, (yes they are different), bestiality and other such sexual sins. Don't want them to die, want them to be saved. Big difference.

ShudBWorking
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 88 Posts
Friday, April 13, 2012 9:47:37 PM
I don't hate gays, gay people, whatever. I just don't think they should practice the way they feel. I felt like having sex before I got married, I thought it was wrong, got pretty close, but my convictions stopped me, so my wife and I were virgins when we got married. Self-control even in sex is possible. To me it's the same as lying, steeling, or cheating, pretty much impulses most of us have, but don't act on them because they are wrong. So, I would vehemently fight for even a gay person's right to life, the same as I would a person who has strong impulses to steal, and even do now when presented the chance. At the very least, medically speaking, life starts with a human heart beat (as it also ends with one), at 8 weeks, and from that point on, that human should be given a chance to live the life that has been started.

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 24965 Posts
Friday, April 13, 2012 4:56:59 PM
I think that 150 years ago the female might be 14 but the MALE was older, established in a trade or occupation AND could provide for his family.

Thus a 20-30 y.o. guy would wed a 14-16 girl, but I really doubt many 14 year old BOYS got married. Although they would often be 'apprenticed' at that age...

IbBored
Male, 13-17, Canada
 72 Posts
Friday, April 13, 2012 3:18:04 PM
I'd still fight for it's right to live, yeah.

Fatninja01
Male, 18-29, Australia
 24516 Posts
Friday, April 13, 2012 2:03:51 PM
wow... so many people with opinions. I am not one of them!

jendrian
Male, 18-29, Canada
 2490 Posts
Friday, April 13, 2012 1:11:40 PM
@lordfoobar, I think you're giving too much credit to teens 150 years ago. Like I said, I've seen first hand families formed by teenagers, and they still act like teenagers, only with a family, which is a little scary.

SarahofBorg
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 3573 Posts
Friday, April 13, 2012 12:47:24 PM
I'm pro-choice but this is a stupid argument. If you believe abortion is murder, even if you hate gays you probably don't approve of murdering them.

lordfoobar
Male, 30-39, Canada
 82 Posts
Friday, April 13, 2012 12:31:25 PM
@imnakdjumpme, well said!

imnakdjumpme
Male, 18-29, Western US
 595 Posts
Friday, April 13, 2012 12:28:29 PM
a real discussion and not just flame! See there is common ground between both sides. I think its fair to assume that NOBODY likes the idea of having an abortion, but we are not at a place in society where you can ban abortion and not have worse repercussions. It is incredibly hard to adopt and we still dont promote contraception and real education well enough. It would be like banning meat around the world; we could do it, but the infrastructure for feeding everyone with plant life isnt set up for that and millions would suffer

lordfoobar
Male, 30-39, Canada
 82 Posts
Friday, April 13, 2012 12:25:33 PM
... and yet they knew better the consequences of their actions than the kids today.

Of course society expects more from people than 150 years ago, I am not objecting this. What I say is that kids back then were more serious about life than today's. Today, kids know more about life than 150 year old ones, but they are less serious about it. And I say that the parents do not teach them well the lessons of life for them to acquire this seriousness young enough.

jendrian
Male, 18-29, Canada
 2490 Posts
Friday, April 13, 2012 12:18:07 PM
also, to say that 14 year old parents 150 years ago weren't the pricks kids are today just because they built a house and have a spouse and kids of their own is to give way too much credit to teenagers of the past.

Like I said, I've seen it first hand: they have a house and kids, but they're still rebellious and well, teens.

jendrian
Male, 18-29, Canada
 2490 Posts
Friday, April 13, 2012 12:15:48 PM
@lordfoobar: you can still see 14 year old "men" building their own homes and caring for a family of like 5 kids; heck, I've seen it myself first hand... in the jungles of Chiapas, Mexico, where people still live like they did 150 years ago.

Nowadays we expect more educated teens, and that takes time. Educating you in the basic stuff you should know to be a member of a civilized society: 6 years of elementary + 6 years of secondary education. If everything went well, you're 18 and capable of *starting* to make your own life.

If you want to be professional on something, add one to 8 more, and you are at that point still starting.

It's not that we have bad parenting in modern days, it's more that as FoolsPrussia already said, society has come to expect more of you if you want a house. We've come to demand that 14 year olds be educated

lordfoobar
Male, 30-39, Canada
 82 Posts
Friday, April 13, 2012 12:09:18 PM
"Pregnancy isn't a cakewalk and can cause lifelong problems, not to mention that some people aren't financially able to properly take care of themselves/their fetus for the length of a pregnancy"

yes, I totally agree with you! This is the kind of thing that parents should teach more to their children; the consequences of unprotected sex (and even protected in some cases) before and after is not merely that a baby will "grow", but a life time commitment and should be treated in all seriousness from both parties. If teenagers were more being taken care of by their parents, there would be less unwanted teenage pregnancies, in my opinion. (And i include young adults, as most of them still act like teenagers.)

And you exactly say why so many parents do not want to adopt (but would otherwise). My wife also would like the biological parent out of the child's life forever, but this is a complicated matter... a lot more than a simple adoption problem.

LillianDulci
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 2696 Posts
Friday, April 13, 2012 11:56:45 AM
lordfoobar, the "plenty of people would love to adopt the kids" argument is bogus, sorry. There are TONS of kids who go unadopted. It's even harder for them to be adopted if they're not white, or if they have birth defects, or if they're older. Not everyone wants their offspring to be raised by someone else without the ability to even see them (and many adoptive parents would prefer if the biological parents don't ever get to see the child). Not only that, it doesn't solve the issue of the unwanted PREGNANCY. Pregnancy isn't a cakewalk and can cause lifelong problems, not to mention that some people aren't financially able to properly take care of themselves/their fetus for the length of a pregnancy. I'm find with adoption as a /choice/ but it's not something that should ever be forced for people who don't want children.

diylobotomy
Male, 18-29, Western US
 1828 Posts
Friday, April 13, 2012 11:55:37 AM
Ugh. Things that cannot think do not have a sexual orientation. That's like saying "hey, look at that gay tree over there!"

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