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Zimmerman's Full Affidavit Filed By Prosecutors

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Satkela
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 586 Posts
Monday, April 16, 2012 2:26:33 PM
@Ivran ok. He said he wasn't going to run but walk fast. He also asked Zimmerman why he was FOLLOWING him. If some stranger was following me I'm going to be prepared to defend myself. What would you do if a strange man was following you at night?

ivran
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 599 Posts
Monday, April 16, 2012 2:10:41 PM
@Satkela Initiating a fight and beating someone is illegal. Following someone isn't necessarily illegal.

ivran
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 599 Posts
Monday, April 16, 2012 2:09:47 PM
@Satkela
You left out the part where Martin said "I'm not running".

Satkela
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 586 Posts
Sunday, April 15, 2012 9:18:03 PM
@5cats Zimmerman did approach Martin according to Martin's friend who was on the phone with him at the time. Martin stated that a strange man was following him and his friend advised him to run. Zimmerman chased Martin down and the scuffle began. I never called Zimmerman racist nor blood thirsty but he was being a vigilante and he took it too far and because he did a young man is dead. Whether Zimmerman was getting his ass kicked or was kicking ass doesn't matter. He still pursued Martin unprevoked which resulted in Martins death. He should have listened to the police and left it alone.

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 24983 Posts
Sunday, April 15, 2012 6:31:50 PM
@Satkela: There's two main flaws in your timeline:
1) we do not know if Z approached M or the other way around. We only have Z's word on that.
2) IF M attacked Z, and his head was getting bashed into the sidewalk, the by golly YES he can, legally, draw his weapon to defend himself!

Both these things are open to question. Claiming to "know" that Z is a "bloodthirsty vigilanti" is pure speculation.

Did you know Zimmerman passed out leaflets calling for justice in the police killing of a black man? How racist is that! Oh wait it's NOT!

Too bad you're unlikely to read this, just thought I'd mention it.

Satkela
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 586 Posts
Sunday, April 15, 2012 10:02:04 AM
@ivran So let me get this straight...Zimmerman suspected Martin of being up to no good so he calls the police. The Dispatcher tells him to wait for an officer to investigate but Zimmerman being the outstanding citizen that he is thinks that's not good enough so he leaves his vehicle and pursues Martin with gun in tow. He follows the boy, Martin notices and runs (because quite frankly if some strange guy was following me I would run as well) a chase ensues and somehow Zimmerman catches Martin. A fight breaks out. Apparently Zimmerman was getting his ass handed to him so he pulls out his gun and shoots Martin. Your argument is that the cause and effect aren't always evident but it seems pretty cut and dry to me. Zimmerman should have let the police handle it simple as that. But because he wanted to play the role of Captain Vigilante, he got in way over his head and now he should face the consequences of his ill thought out actions.

ivran
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 599 Posts
Saturday, April 14, 2012 4:30:02 PM
@Satkela
Please read this. Now, if you would like to present a valid argument as to why Z is guilty, then please go ahead. Spewing emotional buzzwords does not constitute an argument nor does it make you look intelligent.

Satkela
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 586 Posts
Saturday, April 14, 2012 3:02:26 PM
Last I checked if you pursued and gunned downed an unarmed person you got arrested and sent to prison. I find it funny that some people are trying to justify Martins death because he looks like a "thug". Zimmerman is no hero. He's a self serving vigilante who got in way over his head. Whether his motive for chasing down Martin was racially driven or not, the fact still remains he chased down a teen boy, got into a scuffle with him and killed him. Zimmerman deserves some sort of punishment as does ANYONE who kills a otherwise innocent person. Had Martin been breaking into Zimmerman's house or car and got shot then it would have been something else. But he was coming from the store minding his own damn business!

ivran
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 599 Posts
Saturday, April 14, 2012 11:01:32 AM
@ivran might need to be*

ivran
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 599 Posts
Saturday, April 14, 2012 11:00:56 AM
@jamie76 Your silly comment is just another example of emotion over reason. Sure, Florida's stand your ground laws are flawed, but that doesn't mean the idea is flawed. The law might not need to be revised, but the purpose isn't necessarily what is wrong here. Also, we don't know that Z committed murder. Suggesting a law change on an assumption is dumb.

ivran
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 599 Posts
Saturday, April 14, 2012 10:59:25 AM
@jamie76
"we have become a society so afraid of crime, terrorist, whatever, that we willingly give up our rights and hand them over in the name of flase security."

We haven't given up anything. The right to bear arms has been here since the beginning. Also, do you really think ONE incident is enough to justify such a controversial law change?

jamie76
Male, 30-39, Western US
 2345 Posts
Saturday, April 14, 2012 2:49:18 AM
I think people are losing sight of something here.

it doesn't matter what caused the shooting that night. what matters is how we got here in the first place...why it is that a person can carry a deadly weapon, use it and then, with no other witnesses to verify the claim, state they were defending themselves.

this is the legalization of murder so long as no one else sees it and can refute the shooters account.

we have become a society so afraid of crime, terrorist, whatever, that we willingly give up our rights and hand them over in the name of flase security.

people, one of the biggest factors in a free society is the concept that you will always have to live with danger in order to preserve your freedom.

you cannot have total security and be truly free at the same time. security is about government control and freedom is about personal control. the two cannot exist together, ever.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 16961 Posts
Friday, April 13, 2012 10:42:53 PM
Famous liberal lawyer Alan Dershowitz called this affidavit "irresponsible and unethical" and that the 2nd degree murder charge was "way overcharged and would result in an acquittal". Dershowitz even said, "This affidavit doesn't even make it to probable cause" and "A good judge will throw this out"

ivran
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 599 Posts
Friday, April 13, 2012 7:33:49 PM
@collegebound Well neither am I, honey child, neither am I.

BetterBob
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 167 Posts
Friday, April 13, 2012 5:46:30 PM
Wow, thats full of wild assumptions and unsubstantiated information. Along with a bunch of information that shouldn't have been included at all.

collegebound
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 3740 Posts
Friday, April 13, 2012 1:26:30 PM
ivran: im not arguing at all :)

ivran
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 599 Posts
Friday, April 13, 2012 1:11:37 PM
@collegebound Am I arguing with you? Or are you the one arguing with me? Hmmm. Funny how things work out, eh?

collegebound
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 3740 Posts
Friday, April 13, 2012 12:56:48 PM
ivran: good to see you are still arguing with me :) trolld.

ivran
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 599 Posts
Friday, April 13, 2012 12:54:31 PM
@collegebound Back in my day, if someone wasn't crying, screaming, or contemplating suicide, they hadn't been trolled. Now, apparently all trolling amounts to is one douchey comment on facebook or reddit. What has the world come to?

ivran
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 599 Posts
Friday, April 13, 2012 12:50:47 PM
@collegebound
Alright, I'm done with ya. I'm never going to be able to convince you kids that acting stupid isn't actually 'trolling'.

collegebound
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 3740 Posts
Friday, April 13, 2012 12:35:00 PM
ivran: you fell for it didnt you? trolled.

you aren't anywhere near the level of 5Cats or CrakrJak in my eyes.

ivran
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 599 Posts
Friday, April 13, 2012 11:54:49 AM
@whodat6484 I bet 5cats and Fatninja know a few cats who could whoop your ass, so you be careful what you say around them.

ivran
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 599 Posts
Friday, April 13, 2012 11:53:45 AM
@collegebound Ha, no. If you think what you did was trolling then you aren't a true troll. Instigating 1 comment != trolling. Also, claiming you have 'trolled' someone != trolling. I hate the way people throw around that word these days. "I'm not wrong. I'm just trolling! lolz"

collegebound
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 3740 Posts
Friday, April 13, 2012 11:07:27 AM
ivran: im not here to be mature good sir. only to troll. which you have been. good day.

whodat6484
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 3661 Posts
Friday, April 13, 2012 9:33:54 AM
@phyrro - That's right, I clicked the link for the sole purpose of expressing how tired I am of hearing this sh*t. Thank you for noticing!

p.s. I'm not a big fan of cats, they're arrogant, spiteful and evil little creatures.

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