bacon_pie Male, 30-39, Southern US
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Wednesday, March 21, 2012 7:58:36 AM Whatever hippies |
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madduck Female, 40-49, Europe
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Wednesday, March 21, 2012 12:49:25 AM Good- glad someone has already corrected this, I get fed up with keep saying that organic is not necessarily better and that misqoute never helps! |
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jdavg3 Male, 40-49, Western US
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Wednesday, March 21, 2012 12:27:59 AM Stop messing up the internets with your facts |
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Fatninja01 Male, 18-29, Australia
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Tuesday, March 20, 2012 11:26:07 PM to much information for my internet mind |
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HiEv Male, 40-49, Eastern US
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Tuesday, March 20, 2012 9:46:56 PM Here's the link that jendrian tried to post earlier in unbroken form: Rutgers.edu - Misquotes in "Variation in Mineral Composition of Vegetables" Quote: "A study conducted at Rutgers University (Bear et al., 1948) is frequently misquoted as evidence supporting the position that organically grown vegetables are significantly superior in minerals and trace elements to conventionally grown vegetables. In reviewing the original publication, one can clearly see that this was not the intention of the study nor does it give support to this premise." |
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patchgrabber Male, 30-39, Canada
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Tuesday, March 20, 2012 9:38:53 PM The original study was actually comparing mineral absorption values in different types of soils, but someone altered the table to be 'organic' vs. 'conventional' instead of 'highest' and 'lowest'. I posted it anyway because like I said in the description that it's been circulating around again and I can't stand it. Here's the Table from the original study. |
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Draculya Male, 30-39, Asia
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Tuesday, March 20, 2012 8:14:15 PM Where's the column for E.Coli? |
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clockwork208 Male, 30-39, Western US
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Tuesday, March 20, 2012 7:25:04 PM Made of people. |
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RoboPatton Male, 30-39, Western US
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Tuesday, March 20, 2012 7:08:24 PM READING? pass |
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Squrlz4Sale Male, 40-49, Eastern US
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Tuesday, March 20, 2012 6:48:13 PM OK, that's it. If I ever have a daughter, I'm going to insist that she name her teddy bear "Firman Edward Bear." That is too cute. =^.^= |
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Solvent Male, 18-29, Eastern US
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Tuesday, March 20, 2012 6:46:44 PM Organic means that it might kill you. |
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Squrlz4Sale Male, 40-49, Eastern US
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Tuesday, March 20, 2012 6:46:18 PM OMG. There really IS (or was) a Fir E. Bear. Link here. |
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CaptainPabst Male, 18-29, Western US
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Tuesday, March 20, 2012 6:27:25 PM All the food is poison |
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Cajun247 Male, 18-29, Southern US
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Tuesday, March 20, 2012 5:31:59 PM about 1/3 of any crop is lost each year due to conditions (live or enviotmental) and that is about the same amount of crop that was lost before the use of chemicals. also, chemicals destroy the soil and make it unusable and so does mono-cropping. Source or GTFO. |
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Mister_C Male, 18-29, Europe
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Tuesday, March 20, 2012 5:28:57 PM What's a snap bean? |
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TrustusJones Male, 30-39, Western US
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Tuesday, March 20, 2012 5:20:58 PM I've seen worse convenient names. Sometimes parents seem to hate their kids. |
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TrustusJones Male, 30-39, Western US
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Tuesday, March 20, 2012 5:15:50 PM @TrustusJones: It's comparing the mineral levels in unit weights of veg grown in too differently treated soils, one treated organically, one not. This is the problem. It doesn't specify the make-up of either soil. All organic/conventional soils are not equivalent. Especially if they are too differently treated. |
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Squrlz4Sale Male, 40-49, Eastern US
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Tuesday, March 20, 2012 5:09:59 PM this just in... agricultural scientists at the Fir E. Squirrel Laboratory are working feverishly to confirm the findings... |
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darkmagic14n Male, 18-29, Western US
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Tuesday, March 20, 2012 4:57:28 PM obviously its a fake, the guy who conducted the research is named Fir E Bear (Furry Bear) |
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Arcval Male, 18-29, Europe
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Tuesday, March 20, 2012 4:56:15 PM @TrustusJones: It's comparing the mineral levels in unit weights of veg grown in too differently treated soils, one treated organically, one not. |
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TrustusJones Male, 30-39, Western US
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Tuesday, March 20, 2012 4:50:08 PM It looks to me like the table is comparing soil nutrients. It says nothing about the soil ingredients (milliequivalents?) or yields. Organic soil contains organic fertilizers (worm castings, manure...). Conventional soil(?) would contain chemical fertilizers like nitrates and phosphates. It all depends on the mix. |
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honkeylips Male, 30-39, Midwest US
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Tuesday, March 20, 2012 4:42:51 PM That's why I like GMOs. They can make them healthier than organic. |
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jendrian Male, 18-29, Canada
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Tuesday, March 20, 2012 4:30:35 PM Funny, Rutgers University doesn't seem to support this table >[url]http://njaes.rutgers.edu/pubs/bearr... |
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Stonardsftw Male, 18-29, Western US
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Tuesday, March 20, 2012 4:01:54 PM I brought Organic grapes once. There were dead spiders in them. |
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megavidiot Male, 30-39, Canada
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Tuesday, March 20, 2012 3:53:31 PM "Organic agriculture is unsustainable. All you greenies should be campaigning against it! " STFU and go read The Omnivore's Dilemna before talking again. |
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