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JFK Makes Rick Santorum Want To Throw Up

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markust123
Male, 40-49, Western US
 3784 Posts
Thursday, March 01, 2012 8:12:43 PM
Maybe it is the word extremist that has you in a mental block. Replace "extremist" with "very conservative". And no I do not see you in any way the same as the WBC. And I do not see you as a racist.

markust123
Male, 40-49, Western US
 3784 Posts
Thursday, March 01, 2012 8:06:42 PM
"One can be passionate about their beliefs without being an extremist."

The topics on IAB that I get passionate about are gay rights, tolerance and equal rights for all. Yet because of this you call me an extremist. You're a hypocrite.

markust123
Male, 40-49, Western US
 3784 Posts
Thursday, March 01, 2012 8:03:08 PM
That last sentence had 4 spaces between each word. Weird, they take extra spaces out.

markust123
Male, 40-49, Western US
 3784 Posts
Thursday, March 01, 2012 8:02:01 PM
How can you turn my comment,
"You can't admit that you are very conservative. You are not a centrist. If you are a centrist then so is Madest."

into "Bud, you got more problems than can be solved with a simple test if you think madest is a 'centrist'."

Let me spell it out for you slowly because you have trouble actually reading what people write: You are as extreme to the right as Madest is extreme to the left. You are not a Centrist.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 16676 Posts
Thursday, March 01, 2012 2:31:57 AM
markust: Now I know your mind is really bent. You really thought I was madest ?

Bud, you got more problems than can be solved with a simple test if you think madest is a 'centrist'.
He's a HuffPo, Daily KOS, liberal kool-aid drinking stooge with a UFO penchant.

I'm now afraid to ask what you think I am, but I can tell you this for certain, I'm not a racist, a WBC member or an 'extremist' in any regard.

If you care to disbelief those facts, that's on you. One can be passionate about their beliefs without being an extremist.

gigs1890
Male, 18-29, Australia
 32 Posts
Thursday, March 01, 2012 2:24:48 AM
hooray for theocracy!

markust123
Male, 40-49, Western US
 3784 Posts
Wednesday, February 29, 2012 11:46:27 PM
You are like a child (I know you are but what am I?). You are the one avoiding CrakrJak. You can't admit that you are very conservative. You are not a centrist. If you are a centrist then so is Madest. He is the furthest left on this site and you are the furthest right. There was actual a time where I thought you were the same person because you both were so extreme. I thought it was just an act to screw with people.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 16676 Posts
Tuesday, February 28, 2012 8:43:16 PM
markust: Not being honest, aka dishonesty, is lying. So yes, you called me a liar.

That and you're still avoiding answering my challenge about the test, or are you conceding that your claims of me being ludicrous, delusional, dishonest and a sociopath are totally full of sh|t ?

markust123
Male, 40-49, Western US
 3784 Posts
Tuesday, February 28, 2012 6:46:41 PM
I wasn't saying you lied about the test I was saying you are not being honest about where you see yourself on the political spectrum. Either that or you are delusional.

What's up with the stages of denial? Is that supposed to get me riled up? It's just nerdy and weird.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 16676 Posts
Tuesday, February 28, 2012 3:46:58 PM
markust: I see you're already starting to get to the next level, anger.

I have no reason to lie and answered the questions given honestly, I've even offered to share my answers to the list of questions to prove it.

How about this, you retake the test and answer the questions the way you believe that I would answer them, share the answers and the results. Then I'll show you how I answered those questions, we'll compare and contrast.

That's a reasonable, logical and fair way to analyze this. Your refusal means you're scared of the truth. I'll be waiting.

markust123
Male, 40-49, Western US
 3784 Posts
Tuesday, February 28, 2012 8:32:35 AM
I have a busy day ahead of me. I'm going to have to jump off here. It's been weird CrakrJak. Have yourself a fabulous day.

markust123
Male, 40-49, Western US
 3784 Posts
Tuesday, February 28, 2012 8:03:28 AM
I am quite honest where I stand on the political spectrum. But you can not admit where you do. How can anyone trust anything you say if you can't be honest with something as simple as this?

markust123
Male, 40-49, Western US
 3784 Posts
Tuesday, February 28, 2012 7:55:54 AM
I absolutely question any test that says you are a centrist. Seriously Crakrjak. It's ludicrous that you think you are. You support Santorum and people like him who are extremely conservative because they have a lot of the same views as you. Yet you think you are somehow a centrist. It's like I am having a conversation in bizarro world.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 16676 Posts
Tuesday, February 28, 2012 7:16:51 AM
markust: Fine, take the test I linked to then.

You're so unwilling to believe the one you linked to, that now your blaming the test.

This stage is usually called denial. Next will come anger, then bargaining, depression and acceptance.

markust123
Male, 40-49, Western US
 3784 Posts
Tuesday, February 28, 2012 6:59:15 AM
I don't consider myself a moderate. I'm about where I thought I would be - about a third to the left. There is absolutely no way you are a moderate or centrist. It's laughable that you think you are. Your views and the political leaders you support are very conservative. Seriously I laughed out loud when you first said you were a centrist.

Looking into this test, and the complaints, it was made in the UK so it does not take into account American politics. That could be the problem right there.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 16676 Posts
Tuesday, February 28, 2012 1:00:18 AM
markust: If you wish I'll even list my answers and you can retest it for yourself, since you seem to not believe me.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 16676 Posts
Tuesday, February 28, 2012 12:57:27 AM
markust: What you consider to be 'moderate' are people just like you.

I really believed that my score would've been more to the right than it was, probably because of the way people treat me here.

Turns out I'm not that far to the right and it's more likely that most people at IAB are like you, so far off to the left side that centrists seem 'extreme' because of the false belief that you're all 'centrist', or close to it.

Perhaps you just aren't willing to accept that revelation, about yourself, so you have to believe that I'm a "sociopath who just loves pissing people off" to rationalize it.

markust123
Male, 40-49, Western US
 3784 Posts
Tuesday, February 28, 2012 12:06:15 AM
Your results and your comments do not match up. If you were a moderate you wouldn't get attacked the way you do. Or are you really a sociopath who just loves pissing people off?

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 16676 Posts
Monday, February 27, 2012 8:54:40 PM
markust: I took the same test. The results below.

Economic Left/Right: 0.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 1.79

Seems you are further from the center than I.

Try this test, it's the most recent I've taken and the one I quoted from earlier.

madest
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 6455 Posts
Monday, February 27, 2012 5:42:15 PM
Tax churches. Call it a syntax.

Otto67
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 438 Posts
Monday, February 27, 2012 5:38:40 PM
"As I said before unions, lobbyists, and community organizations with NPO status shouldn't be allowed to tell people who to vote for, or not vote for, either."

The information I provided on the other post covers all 501(c)(3) organizations, if the unions, lobbyists, ect are tax exempt I would agree with you.

My opinion is churches should not be tax exempt, and if that were the case churches would have no restrictions on their political activity. Pros and cons both ways.

Otto67
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 438 Posts
Monday, February 27, 2012 5:31:21 PM
Crakr:

The Code states in relevant part that 501(c)(3) organizations cannot “participate in, or intervene in (including the publishing or distributing of statements), any political campaign on behalf of (or in opposition to) any candidate for public office.”


Under current law, churches, as well as other 501(c)(3) organizations, may engage in nonpartisan campaign activities, primarily consisting of voter education. Thus, they may organize and coordinate nonpartisan get-out-the-vote and voter registration drives; sponsor nonpartisan candidate debates or forums, so long as all legally qualified candidates are invited to appear and wide spectrum of issues are covered; educate all candidates on issues of public interest; and create legislative scorecards or voter guides. All of these permissible activities must be done on a nonpartisan basis. A 501(c)(3) entity should not even tacitly express favor or disfavor of a particular candidate.



markust123
Male, 40-49, Western US
 3784 Posts
Monday, February 27, 2012 3:46:17 PM
This won't make sense without the scale headings:

Economic Scale (Left): -3.00 from the middle
Social Scale (Libertarian Left): -3.79 from the middle

markust123
Male, 40-49, Western US
 3784 Posts
Monday, February 27, 2012 3:30:22 PM
I took this test. CrakrJak.

On a 1-10 scale my results were:

Left Leaning: -3.00 from the middle
Social Libertarian: -3.79 from the middle

This is about where I thought I would be. Not moderate but not even half way to being extreme.

Could it be that I am confusing your religious views with being extreme and you are confusing my views on equality and gay rights as being extreme?

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 16676 Posts
Monday, February 27, 2012 3:15:46 PM
Otto: As I said before unions, lobbyists, and community organizations with NPO status shouldn't be allowed to tell people who to vote for, or not vote for, either.

Demanding that churches remain politically silent is unconstitutional.

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