 imnakdjumpme
Male, 18-29, Western US
 595 Posts
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Wednesday, February 22, 2012 2:20:38 PM
how come all the trannys i meet are crosseyed and fuggletoothed? |
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 RoboPatton
Male, 30-39, Western US
1953 Posts
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Wednesday, February 22, 2012 12:42:08 AM
Blllaararrrrggghghhh.... spittle... |
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 yusuksomuch
Male, 40-49, Western US
1002 Posts
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Tuesday, February 21, 2012 11:16:15 PM
@ lawndartsftw << this >> |
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Enomai
Male, 18-29, Europe
42 Posts
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Tuesday, February 21, 2012 10:43:11 PM
On that note, frankly I'd question the ethics and professionalism of any doctor willing to perform "sex change" operations. I'm all for letting people do what they like in their personal lives, but doctors have an obligation to behave ethically and do what's best for their patient. Mutilating people for a fee doesn't seem all that ethical to me, no matter how much the patient wants it. It doesn't matter how much you turn that penis inside-out and make it look like a vagina, that birth certificate is still gonna say male. |
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 Cajun247
Male, 18-29, Southern US
9438 Posts
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Tuesday, February 21, 2012 5:40:09 PM
Anyone delusional enough to want to mutilate their genitalia needs serious psychological help
Not so much, they need someone to step in before they hurt themselves irreparably. Given proper tools and a professional they can be "switched" without causing permanent physical damage. But before they go through such a serious surgery they everyone concerned needs to be reassured that potential patient has given the prospect serious thought. |
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Enomai
Male, 18-29, Europe
42 Posts
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Tuesday, February 21, 2012 5:11:02 PM
I'm not saying it isn't normal to want to dress up as the opposite sex, since clearly a large number of people enjoy it across the world. What isn't normal, however, is to believe that you are in fact a member of the opposite sex despite glaring evidence to the contrary. It's clearly a serious mental problem, especially considering the fact the kid tried to chop off his own dick. It's an issue that should be treated, not indulged. Anyone delusional enough to want to mutilate their genitalia needs serious psychological help, not a bunch of people telling them it's normal and that they really were born into the wrong body. |
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 DoctorSlutba
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
46 Posts
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Tuesday, February 21, 2012 1:50:07 PM
Double post;
also, the kid might get picked on, but I find children are a lot more open to these kinds of things...
older kids, maybe. But they probably wouldn't know unless they knew him before. |
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DoctorSlutba
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
46 Posts
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Tuesday, February 21, 2012 1:46:22 PM
"Delusions like that should be dealt with as soon as possible, not indulged and told it's normal."
Nearly all transgendered people claim feeling the wrong gender since childhood; are you insinuating that being transgendered isn't "normal"?
Let's say for sake of argument that the child is not transgendered; let's say this is all just a phase and he'll grow up and completely grow out of it. So what? Who cares if he wants to dress and live as a girl; why would you keep your child under such scrutiny because of a completely social thing? I hate children, yes, really, but I still think they should be treated fairly.
Repressing the behavior isn't going to change it. And his was severe. I highly doubt this kid is going to grow up feeling any differently because a lot of transgendered feel the same exact way, at the same exact age, as he does. I'm not transgendered but you don't need to be one to know this. Educate yourselves. |
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Enomai
Male, 18-29, Europe
42 Posts
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Tuesday, February 21, 2012 11:56:45 AM
Saying these kids "know" at an early age that they're the wrong gender is just ridiculous. They THINK they're the wrong gender. Delusions like that should be dealt with as soon as possible, not indulged and told it's normal.
P.S. yusuksomuch wins comment of the day IMO |
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 LillianDulci
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
2696 Posts
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Tuesday, February 21, 2012 7:15:33 AM
"Do people only remember that far back if they have something traumatic to remember? It's not like I've chemically damaged my brain. "
I have scattered memories from as far back as 3 years. It's hard for me to tell if some things are memories or if they're from videos (so anything I know that we have a video of the situation, I disregard the memory). My earliest was when my mom's friend was pregnant with my friend when I was 3. Not traumatic at all. I also remember the crushes I had at young ages and when my mom read my "diary" about how my neighbor "was so cut" in kindergarten. I'm guessing it's more likely to stick if it's something that continued to happen though. 3 year old knows they're the wrong gender, still knows at 4, still knows at 5, etc. They'll be able to tell how long they've known because of how it affected them. |
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LillianDulci
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
2696 Posts
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Tuesday, February 21, 2012 7:08:45 AM
@Gerry - You didn't finish reading what I wrote, or chose to ignore the rest of it. If he isn't made fun of for this, he'd just be made fun of for something else, so that's why that argument doesn't stand. And the kids don't seem to have a problem with it. The more they're exposed to it, the more likely they'll just see it as normal and not give him poo for it. |
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 insane_ai
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
668 Posts
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Tuesday, February 21, 2012 5:59:01 AM
Someone needs to find the parents, the doctor and a dummy stick for their heads. |
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 EgalM
Male, 18-29, Canada
1667 Posts
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Tuesday, February 21, 2012 5:39:53 AM
I feel bad for the kid, sounds to me like another parent doesn't want to talk to their kid so they pawn it off on a Doctor who could care less about you or your kid and will just give you pills so you'll leave him alone. I'm not kidding, the worse case is with ADD and similar, parents don't want to handle their children so they tell the Doctor there's something wrong that isn't there fault, and they have to fix it now. |
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 lawndartsftw
Male, 40-49, Canada
1815 Posts
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Tuesday, February 21, 2012 5:17:40 AM
@yusuksomuch. vv this vv |
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 jtrebowski
Male, 40-49, Southern US
3057 Posts
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Tuesday, February 21, 2012 5:14:21 AM
AvatarJohn: "Is there no such thing as mental illness anymore? EVERYTHING is normal, everything is fine I guess, even what once would have been called severe mental illness only a few short years ago. We just accommodate it, pretend there's nothing wrong and move on."
There also was a time when boys would be institutionalized if they were caught masturbating. Science has made advances in understanding how and why we do what we do. |
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 Scuzoid
Male, 30-39, Western US
1270 Posts
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Tuesday, February 21, 2012 3:33:19 AM
"Trans people almost universally report an awareness of being the wrong gender for their bodies at age four or five."
I'm sure this is entirely possible, but I can't acknowledge it as being so because I have zero memories that far back. Is that strange? I mean, I don't think I really have any legitimate memories earlier than, say, fourth grade. I always find it odd when anyone talks about how things were when they were still tiny children, all I remember from that far back was "Life was good. I went to school. I had food and a home."
Do people only remember that far back if they have something traumatic to remember? It's not like I've chemically damaged my brain.
Either way, more people should watch "The Riches" on netflix. |
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 wcny
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
1 Posts
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Tuesday, February 21, 2012 2:40:48 AM
Whoever Zach grows up to be, one thing is certain: He's going to always know that his parents love and support him uncondtionally.
They're letting him wear pigtails and dresses, they aren't surgically changing his genitals. Sheesh, people. |
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yusuksomuch
Male, 40-49, Western US
1002 Posts
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Tuesday, February 21, 2012 2:11:53 AM
when my son was 5 he wanted to be a dinosaur, we totally supported him in this because a 5 year old obviously knows what he wants in life. now he is a healthy happy 17 year old pterodactyl who lives in a nest above the garage. Im sure it will work out fine for zach too |
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 carmium
Female, 50-59, Canada
4051 Posts
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Monday, February 20, 2012 10:37:36 PM
Trans people almost universally report an awareness of being the wrong gender for their bodies at age four or five. The big change we're seeing is simply that parents are becoming more aware of the syndrome and more receptive to the inevitable. I suspect most trans children are still strictly forbidden to behave in any cross-gender manner on penalty of what the child sees as a loss of his/her parents' love. Most then wait decades to face the truth about themselves and make a far less satisfactory transition than they could have when they were young.
(Did a psych rotation thru the local clinic once.) |
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 aquaman1227
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
651 Posts
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Monday, February 20, 2012 9:25:51 PM
@nayrbarr THANK YOU!!! I hated the way this article was written. Seemed to be more on the offense against the kid than saying what was going on. |
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 FemBot
Female, 18-29, Western US
257 Posts
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Monday, February 20, 2012 6:25:17 PM
Did anyone notice the kid's derp eye? Awesome sauce, I tell you. |
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Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
9554 Posts
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Monday, February 20, 2012 4:41:39 PM
But just because this little boy is feminine doesn't make him a girl. Masculine and Feminine is a gender role, and are not the same as Male and Female.
I think you're right.
I also think he's caught in the extremely widespread confusion between sex and gender, which attaches his gender to the other sex. So it follows that he has to identify as the other sex in order to be allowed his gender. That's a rational response to an irrational situation.
We really need to decouple sex and gender. The only connection is *trends* and they are usually transient and social. For example, short dresses were very masculine in ancient Rome(*). Pink was a very masculine colour in Britain ~100 years ago. Etc.
* No joke - the most common form of clothing in Rome was the tunica, which was a simple dress. Short was masculine, long was feminine. |
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Cajun247
Male, 18-29, Southern US
9438 Posts
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Monday, February 20, 2012 3:39:03 PM
@Gerry
Well according to this article he's well accepted at school in his girl's outfit. If the parents are worried about bully-induced suicide then it's up to them to find alternatives. |
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 Shillier
Male, 18-29, Canada
262 Posts
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Monday, February 20, 2012 3:21:38 PM
i know what he's going through.. i am a lesbian who wants to be a man trapped in a man's body. i am single btw ladies. |
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 Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
25652 Posts
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Monday, February 20, 2012 3:16:08 PM
Lillian ""potentially getting made fun of" isn't what I'd consider harmful"
Getting made fun of can drive some kids to suicide. So would class it as "harmful".
I'm not saying squash his "inner self". Let him dress as he wants at home. But put pants on to go to school. We all have a dress code at work or school. Fair or unfair is irrelevant. You have to learn to deal with unfair, too. |
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