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Lawyer Vs Pennslyvania Cop

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PopCap
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 638 Posts
Tuesday, February 21, 2012 5:52:08 PM
All that needed to be done, in the first place, is for the police to have established fair concessions to accommodate both parties until the city responded with an official statement.

tatripp
Male, 18-29, Western US
 1201 Posts
Friday, February 17, 2012 2:19:16 PM
THe police acted fine. He was kind and collected. She is a douche.

almightybob1
Male, 18-29, Europe
 4278 Posts
Friday, February 17, 2012 7:34:26 AM
I would believe the obvious safety reasons alone would be enough,

From what I saw, the main threat to their safety was the gun club members swerving to try to hit them, which could happen on any side of the road.

but the illegal harassment would be another valid reason.

Videotaping people in public is not illegal.

almightybob1
Male, 18-29, Europe
 4278 Posts
Friday, February 17, 2012 7:31:30 AM
If she got robbed that night you can bet your ass she would be begging for the cops help.

What does that have to do with anything? You want them to do their job properly when it matters, so you should ignore it when they do their job badly at other times? That's utterly ridiculous.

Knowing what is and is not legal should be a basic requirement of being a cop. This guy was citing wiretapping law without knowing what it covers.

chance13
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 221 Posts
Friday, February 17, 2012 4:14:30 AM
So being belligerent makes you a crusader? I don't think so, this woman is just a twit. Quit giving the attention whore the time she's after and she'll go home.

drawman61
Male, 50-59, Europe
 6268 Posts
Friday, February 17, 2012 3:09:20 AM
I hate this bitch. The cop was called out and was trying to do his job. All she is doing is taping to show how clever she is and how much she knows. If she got robbed that night you can bet your ass she would be begging for the cops help.

Genocyde
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 711 Posts
Thursday, February 16, 2012 7:15:01 PM
He might be law enforcement but it might help if he simply I dunno knows the laws he's enforcing? I mean that is the point, right? If ignorance of the law is no excuse for me as a civilian, it's REALLY no excuse for law enforcement.

thejanitor86
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 63 Posts
Thursday, February 16, 2012 3:06:31 PM
can the car please hit her next time so these terrible waste of time videos stop showing up.

Fatninja01
Male, 18-29, Australia
 24825 Posts
Thursday, February 16, 2012 1:08:49 PM
MEh... i think it could have been all avoided if they just left. avoid conflict rather then take it on when their is no benifit!

madest
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 6464 Posts
Thursday, February 16, 2012 10:05:32 AM
I love that woman. Lawyers who open the eyes of lawman deserve the respect of all citizens.

banur
Male, 18-29, Europe
 250 Posts
Thursday, February 16, 2012 8:40:09 AM
God, she spills so much BS it's just annoying.

dm2754
Male, 40-49, Western US
 3128 Posts
Thursday, February 16, 2012 6:53:02 AM
How is shooting Pigeon cruel? It’s no worse than cutting an apple in half

MechBFP
Male, 18-29, Canada
 829 Posts
Thursday, February 16, 2012 5:43:48 AM
'In the criminal justice system, the people are represented by two separate yet equally important groups: the police, who investigate crime; and the district attorneys, who prosecute the offenders. These are their stories."

Corydoras87
Male, 18-29, Europe
 638 Posts
Thursday, February 16, 2012 4:34:29 AM
"do you know for a fact that you are not on private property" ---> "no" ---> "so GTFO and give me your name because you are under suspicion of trespassing. As an officer I am not to judge if you are guilty or not, I just gather information for prosecution. If it's public, you will be fine.. if it turns out it's private, they will charge you"

THAT is how it should have turned out.. why these protesters think that cops need to know all the laws? they are not the ones who will charge you.. the prosecutors are, they know the lawas and when the police report has been filed, they are the ones who decode based on their knowledge of laws if you are guilty or not. that is why executive and prosecution (and legislation) are separated..

Corydoras87
Male, 18-29, Europe
 638 Posts
Thursday, February 16, 2012 4:28:31 AM
"You have rights; use them or lose them."

no.. that is whats wrong with those kind of people.. it should be:

"You have rights; use them if necessary, not abuse them constantly and don't force situations in which you have to use them only to prove that you have them."

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 17308 Posts
Thursday, February 16, 2012 4:25:29 AM
Musuko: Why should they have to obey that?


I would believe the obvious safety reasons alone would be enough, but the illegal harassment would be another valid reason.

EgalM
Male, 30-39, Canada
 1710 Posts
Thursday, February 16, 2012 3:56:02 AM
I don't get why people refuse to give their names. Specially when your there protesting and someone calls the cops.

He's simply responding to the complaint about them being on private property, it's not like he is going to stop by the court house and grab the property info to confirm. Later he does say he's going to do that.

As for the law "Therefore, you may be able to record in-person conversations occurring in a public place without consent. However, you should always get the consent of all parties before recording any conversation that common sense tells you is private."

Musuko42
Male, 18-29, Europe
 2850 Posts
Thursday, February 16, 2012 3:45:06 AM
@CrakrJak

"These anti-pigeon hunt idiots have been told many times to stay on the other side of the street"

Why should they have to obey that?

It's a public street, isn't it?

Has your country REALLY lost this kind of freedom already?

LordJim
Male, 50-59, Europe
 4914 Posts
Thursday, February 16, 2012 3:14:21 AM
I'm not too fussed about the actual issue they are protesting; I support responsible hunting for the pot or pest control but I despise canned hunts and just killing for kicks. So I don't think I am partisan about why they are protesting.

But if you are going to protest know the law, make it clear you know the law, remain calm and polite and don't give up any of your rights.

You have rights; use them or lose them.


CaptainPabst
Male, 18-29, Western US
 1253 Posts
Thursday, February 16, 2012 12:41:06 AM
Ugh just give them your name she is right but still its so easy to just give your name its not like she has a warrant.

DuckBoy87
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 2732 Posts
Thursday, February 16, 2012 12:23:13 AM
Actually, jamie76, these live pigeon shoots are completely legal in the commonwealth of Pennsylvania, or at least as of Dec 14, 2011, according to the article I just read.. I'm not saying it's right, but it is legal.

All three parties in this video are idiots.
The cops because they don't know the law.
The gun club because they were being jerks.
And the video tapers because their protest is ineffective, and they were probably provoking the gun club to get a reaction.

Grendal
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 185 Posts
Thursday, February 16, 2012 12:22:30 AM
I stop watching the video as soon as they described the scene. I could just feel the bias rolling off of it and knew it wouldn't be worth the ten minute watch.

RobSwindol
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 2465 Posts
Wednesday, February 15, 2012 10:57:53 PM
I cannot defend the gun club, not will I attempt to defend the police force, but I can say that I don't think that particular police officer handled the situation with complete incompetence.

The video itself stated "Any competent cop would segregate the two parties". But when he attempted to segregate the two parties by asking the ladies to movie to the other side of the snow banks, they refused.

What was he to do? Ask the gun club member to move away from his own property? That would have been the only other solution to segregate them. And that's just stupid.

The only people more crooked than cops are lawyers. This entire conversation is a matter of semantics and the lawyers know this. They are intentionally twisting the words of the officers in a shallow attempt to prove their point.

jamie76
Male, 30-39, Western US
 2350 Posts
Wednesday, February 15, 2012 10:25:17 PM
"Pennsylvania's Wiretap Law makes it illegal to record private conversations - which can include conversations in public places - without the consent of all parties to the conversation."


this law does not and cannot apply to public officials.

all officials that are paid with tax payer dollars are subject to public record at all times they are working in their official capacity. this includes police officers.

jamie76
Male, 30-39, Western US
 2350 Posts
Wednesday, February 15, 2012 10:22:54 PM
people really, you cannot defend the idiot cops in this vid or the gun club members.

I am a hunter but conducting illegal hunts (this one in the vid is illegal) is NEVER okay. Being a hunter means respecting nature and hunting different game when it is acceptable and needed, not when you feel like shooting and killing anything that moves.

oh and a citizen ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS has a right to record anything and everything an on duty officer is doing, period.

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