 Bountykat
Female, 18-29, Southern US
 399 Posts
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Thursday, February 16, 2012 9:40:21 AM
I like to buy things. |
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 patchgrabber
Male, 30-39, Canada
5329 Posts
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Monday, February 13, 2012 6:39:10 AM
If a janitor is paid the same as a surgeon, who is going to want to go through all the school necessary to operate on people?
Communism fail. In a communist society all people aren't paid the same. Read some communist theory then come back. |
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 OldOllie
Male, 50-59, Midwest US
8945 Posts
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Saturday, February 11, 2012 1:40:52 PM
anyone else read anal ternative life
Yeah. Now we know what they're trading to get all the stuff they need to survive.
You can also go to their other web site, oralternativelife.com. |
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 zombunny
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
2524 Posts
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Saturday, February 11, 2012 4:40:26 AM
That's a pretty cool idea. I couldn't do it permanently, but I'd try it for a week. |
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 degravenous
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
19 Posts
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Friday, February 10, 2012 9:14:02 PM
This is not living sustainably. Taking donations and stealing thrown away food is not self-sufficient. These people are parasites, living off of people who do spend the money to import food from farm lands. Just because they don't spend money doesn't mean that the rest of the world could take a lesson.
Also, the reason why communism will ALWAYS fail is because there's no incentive to rise above mediocrity. There's no reason to be a doctor or engineer or ANYTHING that requires effort, study, and thought. If a janitor is paid the same as a surgeon, who is going to want to go through all the school necessary to operate on people? |
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 airsofter1
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
1089 Posts
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Friday, February 10, 2012 6:41:10 PM
"maybe if we got some lights..." nuff said |
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 EVILLECUTTER
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
196 Posts
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Friday, February 10, 2012 1:31:20 PM
this is great until someone gets raped |
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patchgrabber
Male, 30-39, Canada
5329 Posts
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Friday, February 10, 2012 1:08:21 PM
And before you point out that I said "no-energy-input", at the time I was referring to no electricity. |
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patchgrabber
Male, 30-39, Canada
5329 Posts
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Friday, February 10, 2012 12:58:27 PM
Your basic RO unit will need 2.5 kWh/m3 to run. So to make 1000 L (1 m3) of water, with one kWh = 3.6 million Joules, you require 2.5 kWh or 9 million Joules. RO is magnitudes more efficient than distillation, and works in a fraction of the time, hence distillation is inefficient. |
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patchgrabber
Male, 30-39, Canada
5329 Posts
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Friday, February 10, 2012 12:54:45 PM
RO removes salt. How is something that is "no-energy-input" "horribly inefficient"? It's just slow without good engineering.
RO isn't filtration. If you have a community their size of around 20 people, each needing roughly 1.8 liters of water per day, you essentially need 36 liters of water per day. To distill water, you need to boil it. Assuming ambient temp of 23 degrees C, you need to raise the water's temp by 80 degrees to boil (at sea level). The rule of thumb regarding turning the whole liter of water to steam is 10 times the time it takes it to reach a boil. So the equation looks like: 80 x 4200 x 1 x 10 (80 degrees x 4200 Joules to raise one kg of water one degree x 1 kg x 10 to make it all steam). So you need 3.36 million Joules to distill one liter of water, and after you make 36 L, you need 1.21 x 10^8 J all together. |
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 LordJim
Male, 50-59, Europe
2491 Posts
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Friday, February 10, 2012 12:41:26 PM
Oh what fun, let's live like slum dwellers for a while.
People who have to live like that tend to see it as something to escape from, not aspire to.
But they don't seem to be doing any harm and I wouldn't want to see then hassled for no good reason. Let them get on with it. |
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 Fatninja01
Male, 18-29, Australia
23998 Posts
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Friday, February 10, 2012 12:04:06 PM
k |
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onoffonoffon
Male, 30-39, Western US
1306 Posts
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Friday, February 10, 2012 11:48:10 AM
green is right, these are just gleaners |
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onoffonoffon
Male, 30-39, Western US
1306 Posts
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Friday, February 10, 2012 11:46:58 AM
RO removes salt. How is something that is "no-energy-input" "horribly inefficient"? It's just slow without good engineering. |
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 I-IS-BORED
Male, 18-29, Canada
2432 Posts
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Friday, February 10, 2012 11:03:23 AM
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 greenbasterd
Male, 18-29, Canada
2161 Posts
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Friday, February 10, 2012 10:39:37 AM
lol what a joke. they live off a throw away society.. if they actually had to survive in the woods somewhere.. these people would be eatin by a bear in no time flat |
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patchgrabber
Male, 30-39, Canada
5329 Posts
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Friday, February 10, 2012 7:21:57 AM
Sand filtrationz how do it workz???
It works by separating out foreign material that is larger than the pore size created by the sand. Unfortunately, no kind of filtration can remove dissolved particles like salt. If the type of sand you used was SiO2, some of the Na would adhere to it, but not enough to remove the 3.5% or so salt content of sea water. The only effective method of free, no-energy-input desalination is distillation, which is horribly inefficient. |
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 kinky_afr0
Male, 18-29, Europe
555 Posts
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Friday, February 10, 2012 6:22:21 AM
anyone else read anal ternative life |
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 McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
10540 Posts
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Friday, February 10, 2012 5:56:22 AM
@morimacil123
Sand filtrationz how do it workz??? |
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 carmium
Female, 50-59, Canada
4269 Posts
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Friday, February 10, 2012 3:31:10 AM
Squatters living in a dump; now that's progress. I bet they all smell just great, too. 8-P |
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 Squidbush
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
501 Posts
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Friday, February 10, 2012 3:24:53 AM
All I could thing through the entire video was "HOLD THE #$(*&^ CAMERA STILL!!" |
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morimacil123
Male, 18-29, Europe
143 Posts
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Friday, February 10, 2012 2:58:43 AM
"@ morimacil123 - this planet is 2/3rd water. There is no shortage. That myth is just another way of squeezing the populace."
yes, 2/3rds of the planet is indeed water, but it is mostly saltwater.
If you were to take showers and baths in saltwater (without using harmful chemicals as soap or shampoo ofc), that would not be an issue.
Go swimming in the sea all day, its not an issue.
The issue is when you take clean, drinkable water (which half the human population lacks), and then use hundreds of liters of that to clean yourself, and pollute it at the same time, so its afterwards no longer drinkable. |
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 SnoopyBG
Male, 18-29, Europe
488 Posts
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Friday, February 10, 2012 1:33:04 AM
NO! This not a an answer, this is being lazy. People have been there and then they progressed because it's sh*t.
And you are not independent at all, you still need clothes, medical care, transportation, police, firefighters.... |
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 Draculya
Male, 30-39, Asia
6671 Posts
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Friday, February 10, 2012 12:14:57 AM
Thankfully 99.9999'% of society does not live like that or we'd be totally fooked.
You need a kidney transplant. Oh, I'll stop by the free organs table and borrow a blunt knife. |
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 Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
26241 Posts
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Thursday, February 09, 2012 10:43:52 PM
So stylishly homeless is something to admire now?
Something to aspire to?
We are doomed. |
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