 deschide
Male, 18-29, Europe
 73 Posts
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Monday, February 06, 2012 3:23:09 PM
"It is a shameless example of two men using a young girl to further own ends, but I am sure she is speaking from the heart and it's in a good cause"
the girl looks old enough to be to be making her own decisions, the father looks quite supportive to me.
"What I have between my wife and I is a marriage. When you have people trying to alter the definition of marriage you take away from what I have. I understand clearly what these people want; they want to legitimize something that is not legitimate and in the process they are willing to hurt others to hide their shame."
how does it hurt you in anyway? |
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 insane_ai
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
668 Posts
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Sunday, February 05, 2012 6:05:49 AM
@insane ai You are obviously against gay marriage and I would just like to say that I feel bad for you. It's sad that people are so afraid of what they don't understand.
What I have between my wife and I is a marriage. When you have people trying to alter the definition of marriage you take away from what I have. I understand clearly what these people want; they want to legitimize something that is not legitimate and in the process they are willing to hurt others to hide their shame. |
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 Burton_Ian
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
800 Posts
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Saturday, February 04, 2012 8:45:25 AM
Well Robo, it's good that no one values said opinion.
Enjoy your hate. |
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 Yellk
Male, 18-29, Europe
43 Posts
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Saturday, February 04, 2012 2:40:49 AM
erm, i might be feeding a troll here, but, robosnitz take your racist opinion away from this site. seriously, I still cannot comprehend how people hold such views.. |
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 robosnitz
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
2752 Posts
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Saturday, February 04, 2012 1:19:53 AM
Half breeds should not be able to vote, but pay twice as much taxes. My opinion. |
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 Draculya
Male, 30-39, Asia
6288 Posts
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Friday, February 03, 2012 8:53:20 PM
It is a shameless example of two men using a young girl to further own ends, but I am sure she is speaking from the heart and it's in a good cause. |
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 Fatninja01
Male, 18-29, Australia
23995 Posts
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Friday, February 03, 2012 8:06:58 PM
right e o |
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Zymotical
Male, 18-29, Western US
199 Posts
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Friday, February 03, 2012 5:52:54 PM
Angilion gets it, why cant the rest of the world?
Oh yeah, "god" said it is bad so the laws of our secular society must reflect that. *eye-roll*
Why is america still fighting for the same freedom FROM religious persecution that this country was founded on? It boggles my mind how many citizens don't understand this, though they are most likely just the ones subverting the system to create more religious conversions.
Religious zealotry is the foulest act of mankind and has created more pain and suffering in the name of "god" than any atheist organization anywhere. This video just one example of the unaccountably numerous crimes against humanity that religions have hefted upon the world, and it will not cease until people deal with mortality without making up fairy tales to placate their fear of death. |
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jamie76
Male, 30-39, Western US
2249 Posts
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Friday, February 03, 2012 5:38:53 PM
BTW DiscoTerd
this issue is about EMOTION and LOVE and perhaps it needs just a little less reason, which is all too often another word for justification...like how the religious right wingnuts try to justify their objections to same sex marriage because they are so weak and retarded. |
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jamie76
Male, 30-39, Western US
2249 Posts
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Friday, February 03, 2012 5:36:01 PM
Discobiscuit
you want reason from the side fighting for same sex marriage but what, except the absolute BULLCRAP excuses for reason that the other side comes up with for why it shouldn't be allowed????????
no offense, but somehow I doubt at your age you know much about reason, emotion or when there is and is not a difference between the two. |
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 mrsdoctorwho
Female, 18-29, Western US
14 Posts
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Friday, February 03, 2012 4:27:30 PM
@talon0325 You are 40-49, have the username of a 12 year old boy and have a kitty for your profile photo. I have a hard time taking you seriously. You have to be a troll. |
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 swoop408
Male, 18-29, Western US
1768 Posts
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Friday, February 03, 2012 4:26:18 PM
@Talon, You are one massive pile of poo. Please go away and die. |
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swoop408
Male, 18-29, Western US
1768 Posts
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Friday, February 03, 2012 4:20:56 PM
It was a well intentioned and heartfelt statement by a 15 year old kid who wants her parents to have the same rights as others, disco. Sorry you're just a douche. |
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 Discobiscuit
Male, 18-29, Western US
543 Posts
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Friday, February 03, 2012 3:49:33 PM
I'm not getting her rationale. Perhaps because it's not rational.
If you want gay marriage, then use reason, you'll get there. |
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Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
9533 Posts
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Friday, February 03, 2012 3:17:24 PM
how could her parents not being married possibly affect her.
if they both adopted her then they're both her parents legally.
She's a much more politically useful front than either of her fathers would be. Her message doesn't have to be truthful - we're talking about politics here, so the truth doesn't matter much. Emotional appeals carry far more weight (if the person making them is in a "right" group, as she is).
It's an ugly thing.
I think that Ajikan is right, although I would extend it to polygamy. No logical reason not to do so.
Or maybe I'd just stop marriage entirely. Why should the state use public money (taken from other people) to pay some people for their private relationships? |
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 bigkkm
Male, 50-59, Midwest US
95 Posts
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Friday, February 03, 2012 3:14:35 PM
Five out of five IABers agree: talon0325 is a f*cking moron. |
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 JacobTrue13
Male, 18-29, Europe
239 Posts
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Friday, February 03, 2012 2:51:34 PM
I would like to point out that talon0325 is a f*cking ars*hole. |
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 DixxyRarr
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
2677 Posts
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Friday, February 03, 2012 2:43:24 PM
Like the average American, it's probable that I'm going to be married and divorced a few times in my life... I hope at least one of those is a gay one. |
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 Cajun247
Male, 18-29, Southern US
9438 Posts
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Friday, February 03, 2012 2:40:10 PM
@talon
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 talon0325
Male, 40-49, Canada
341 Posts
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Friday, February 03, 2012 2:04:05 PM
Really want to feel equal? Grow a dick and a pair of balls and get &^^%#ed up the rear. Still do not understand what you want to be equal to. My opinion still stands. She just wants attention on a world scale. No skills or looks. How can she possibly pay for everything unless she sells her story? |
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talon0325
Male, 40-49, Canada
341 Posts
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Friday, February 03, 2012 1:55:39 PM
Exactly what rights is she/he/it looking for? So your dads are gay. Get on with it. Neither one of them were capable of concieving you. Yet , I would wager that neither of them are your father, and now at your age of 15 , you have decided that the state is against you. WTF have you been doing for the last 14 yrs? This is just another media hog thats want's attention. Ohhhh, poor little girl can't accept that the state does not accept same sex marriage. You are 15. When did these 2 get together? Stop reading from your promt sheets and get rid of the forced tears. Grow the F up and get on with your life. Go to school and get a job. Marry whatever you want. Now F#$K off and leave the rest of us who don't give a ^&%$ alone. |
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Zymotical
Male, 18-29, Western US
199 Posts
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Friday, February 03, 2012 1:46:49 PM
@I-IS-BORED There should be no difference in the eyes of the government. People are people. THAT'S IT. Treat everyone equally, namely unmarried persons are discriminated against in the tax code and it is not the purview of government to tell me that I have to file paperwork with them to get the same benefits as another couple.
Not gay rights, but the right of those wishing to abstain from government oversight in their relationships. I am all for gay rights, but have no idea why they want to be part of an institution that existed to tell society which woman was this mans property. |
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 sunday_scour
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
232 Posts
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Friday, February 03, 2012 1:46:06 PM
Very good post. |
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Zymotical
Male, 18-29, Western US
199 Posts
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Friday, February 03, 2012 1:39:00 PM
Why do people feel the need to draw up a contract to express their love towards each other? Contracts are to ensure that you have recourse when the other party deviates from the written contract. If you are not civilized enough to be able to resolve these issues within the household then you lack the ability to make said decisions in life.
Stop wasting my drating tax money figuring out who is going to get the couch or the car. That goes for all relationships be you polygamist, homosexual, or whatever I do not care just stop wasting mine and the government's time and money and go about your life. |
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 I-IS-BORED
Male, 18-29, Canada
2432 Posts
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Friday, February 03, 2012 1:29:26 PM
@Zymotical
there are plenty of things that change in the eyes of the law and the tax system between a married couple and 2 random men off the street |
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