 mcboozerilla
Male, 30-39, Europe
 649 Posts
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Wednesday, February 08, 2012 4:03:52 AM
Anyone saying animal life is equal to human life in moral or spiritual value is pretty absurd, although that statement has nothing to do with this video.
It's permissible to kill animals for humans to survive. It's also permissible to kill plant life. I like animals as much as the next person, whether it's at the zoo or on the dinner table, but I don't believe in any womanish anthropomorphizing. |
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 Wendypants
Female, 30-39, Canada
1167 Posts
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Sunday, February 05, 2012 7:57:59 AM
For people who think that animals are less important life forms than humans.... that's anthro-conceit at it's best. Thanks for being such non-nice individuals. |
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 zekumi
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
401 Posts
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Saturday, February 04, 2012 8:25:53 AM
@DixxyRarr: It's extremely distressing to hear from someone who might otherwise sound reasonably intelligent say that they don't believe non-human animals have souls.
I try not to judge life based on value. Of course we humans *tend* to hold the lives of our fellow humans more dearly than the lives of other animals, but that doesn't mean they truly are more valuable, or that it's right. I'd be ashamed to say I believed so, if I did. |
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 teknollag
Male, 18-29, Canada
164 Posts
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Friday, February 03, 2012 3:29:40 AM
Touching, but also very interesting to study these behaviors. |
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 DixxyRarr
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
2677 Posts
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Thursday, February 02, 2012 11:33:16 AM
mrsdoctorwho: I love animals very much... I have an undergraduate degree in Fisheries and Wildlife and a master's in Environmental Urban Planning... I plan to work for environmental justice my whole life and that's how I show my love for the earth and the animals in it.
But- humans more than animals. Every time. It's because I believe humans have souls, and that animals don't. And if you don't agree with that, that's fine... it's a very debatable situation. But I mourn for humans because they had families and friends that LOVED them. They had hopes, dreams, fears, secret wishes, and secret lovers, they could make people laugh and make them cry. And also I am one- I can relate to life and pain and loss and the general human condition... as ORGNCHEMST said: They are my brothers and sisters. Do I think human's are worth more than animals? Yes.
Think about someone that you loved that has died, and then an animal that you've lost. Who would you ask to see one more time? |
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DixxyRarr
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
2677 Posts
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Thursday, February 02, 2012 11:30:35 AM
MrOrange: I'm glad you responded so nicely, I was sort of expecting "What- You want a f*cking cookie, or something?" I think you and I will get along just fine :)
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 mrsdoctorwho
Female, 18-29, Western US
14 Posts
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Thursday, February 02, 2012 1:39:25 AM
@Dixxyrarr Can I just ask why you value a human's life more than an animal's? I'm asking as a seriously curious party, not in a sarcastic way. |
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 MrOrange
Male, 30-39, Europe
1286 Posts
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Wednesday, February 01, 2012 1:29:32 PM
@Dixxyrarr
I tip my hat to you young lady, you sound like the person i would like to be i hope you enjoy it!
as for the insult there isn't going to be one (i hope) i'm learning about emotional responses atm, the only thing i can say is.. there is no normal..
(a hot girl will provoke a response in males but not in females and vice versa((and before i get shot, on avarage ok?))
i'm perfectly happy with my emotional response (well, in most cases) but tend to get feisty if someone tells me i should feel otherwise.
Keep up the good work though, you will be one human i will cry over. |
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DixxyRarr
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
2677 Posts
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Wednesday, February 01, 2012 12:04:21 PM
MrOrange: I actually try to be a pretty socially responsible person. I've tried to do my part in helping the poor and less fortunate- I lived and volunteered in a teeny village in Zambia for almost a year helping people to build fish farms to feed their families. I was a live-in volunteer for 2 years at a homeless shelter in Chicago, and though I don't live there anymore, I work an overnight shift once a week for the last 3 years. I have worked in the environmental social justice sector my whole life, and I plan to always live and work amongst less-privileged people.
I understand your frustration toward the average 1st world citizen... I feel ya, I really do. I have also changed a lot of my personal habits, and I encourage others to do the same. BUT- you may think me a hypocrite or self-righteous or whatever insult you choose to throw back at me... at the end of the day, I will mourn for a human's death more than an animal's. And I think that's normal. |
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MrOrange
Male, 30-39, Europe
1286 Posts
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Wednesday, February 01, 2012 9:19:36 AM
@McGovern1981
you having a go at me mate? i was just explaining why i don't cry over (most) humans but do over animals, didn't realise those shoes fit you as well.
as for what i do? i changend the way i eat, the way i dress, the way i treat people. you see the old way isn't working so it's on us to do what we have to do to survive. |
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 Saxonius
Male, 30-39, Europe
7 Posts
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Wednesday, February 01, 2012 7:28:31 AM
@McGovern1981
Smoking a Jeffrey, listening to Instant Sorrow and contemplating the fate of the planet. This is a day well spend. |
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 McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
10540 Posts
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Wednesday, February 01, 2012 5:53:36 AM
God protects children
God protects children
I am a god who protects children
I am a god who protects children
Save me
Love me
I am the king of Africa
[End Swahili chant]
African child
Trapped in me
There's an African child
Trapped in me
There's a little African child trapped in me.
There's a little African child trapped in me.
There's a little African child trapped in me. |
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McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
10540 Posts
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Wednesday, February 01, 2012 5:53:18 AM
There's sunshine in my veins
My kitchen's filled with flies
I'm crying out in vain
Like a little African child.
Trapped in me
There's an African child
Trapped in me
There's a little African child trapped in me.
All these rooms are cluttered with the spoils of my fame
My doors and windows shuttered I just can't keep out the rain
There's sunshine down in hell
My kitchen's filled with flies
I'm crying out for help
Like a little African child.
Trapped in me
There's an African child
Trapped in me
There's a little African child trapped in me.
All these blowjobs in limousines
What do they matters
What do they mean
To the little African child
Trapped in me.
[Swahili chant] (partially shown with translation)
Mungu linda watoto
Mungu linda watoto
Mimi ni mungu nalinda watoto
Mimi ni mungu nalinda watoto
Usalama ni mimi
Upendo ni mimi
Na n |
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McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
10540 Posts
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Wednesday, February 01, 2012 5:52:45 AM
Oh look a self rightous hypocritical European what exactly have you done to stop war and feed a poor African child? Oh wait I've seen you in a movie did you write this???
I have crossed the mystic desert
To snap pictures of the poor
I've invited them to brunch
Let them crash out on my floor. |
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MrOrange
Male, 30-39, Europe
1286 Posts
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Wednesday, February 01, 2012 5:15:22 AM
@DixxyRarr
And i think it shows that humanity has a lot to learn. you want my empathy? stop drating the world over. how gracious of you to feel sorry if a human dies, but what do you do to stop Hunger War and Disease? Thought so. take those crocodile tears and stop disgusting me, then i'll feel sorry when you die, in the meantime that cow that got locked up raped and murderd so some fat first worlder can work on his diabetes while a third of the world lives in hunger is the one i feel sorry for. nothing she can do about it, you can. thats the Diff. |
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 xCYBERDYNEx
Male, 18-29, Southern US
4798 Posts
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Tuesday, January 31, 2012 11:50:33 PM
Damnit IAB. Too sad. |
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beangirl
Female, 30-39, Western US
51 Posts
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Tuesday, January 31, 2012 7:28:14 PM
Do you think they are looking at the baby because they are curious or really sending their condolences?? That one elephant was a buttsniffer :P |
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 Angelmassb
Male, 18-29, S. America
15474 Posts
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Tuesday, January 31, 2012 7:19:35 PM
Anyone raised watching Discovery channel is not impressed by this |
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 simbha
Male, 30-39, Southern US
397 Posts
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Tuesday, January 31, 2012 6:36:38 PM
We had two ferrets at our house. One of them developed severe cancer in a short time and we had to put him down. After the euthanasia, the vet's assistant came to get the other to show him his deceased 'brother'. She suggested that we stay there in the waiting room.
Afterwards, she brought the younger one back and told me that he had sniffed around the older one, then laid down next to him and closed his eyes for a short bit. After a minute or so, he got back up and wandered back over to the assistant, who picked him up and brought him back to us.
I've been around various non-human animals all my life. No one can convince me that (at least some) don't have strong emotions. |
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DixxyRarr
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
2677 Posts
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Tuesday, January 31, 2012 5:44:09 PM
ORGNCHEMST: I think you make a good point. I am often disgusted that people (especially internet people) pitch a huge f*cking fit about an animal getting killed, but barely bat an eyelash (or worse- say 'Darwin Award' or 'S/he deserved it') when a person gets killed. I think it shows a terrifying lack of empathy and perspective on life. |
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 Draculya
Male, 30-39, Asia
6686 Posts
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Tuesday, January 31, 2012 4:54:35 PM
So human. Better than human; at least they didn't post photos of the funeral with gang signs on facebook or slap a tasteless video on youtube.
Oh wait... |
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evam-9
Female, 18-29, Western US
232 Posts
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Tuesday, January 31, 2012 2:47:00 PM
ORGNCHEMST, maybe only you feel nothing for your brothers and sisters' sufferings. |
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 FoolsPrussia
Male, 18-29, Western US
2991 Posts
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Tuesday, January 31, 2012 2:35:37 PM
"How is it that we can all see and feel the pain of an elephant, but when our brothers and sisters suffer we feel nothing??"
I'm not sure that's totally true. But we should also remember that animals are innocents. |
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 clockwork208
Male, 30-39, Western US
834 Posts
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Tuesday, January 31, 2012 2:29:02 PM
Had no effect on me. It's just my allergies. :.( |
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 RecycleElf
Male, 18-29, Europe
3632 Posts
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Tuesday, January 31, 2012 2:22:07 PM
How is it that we can all see and feel the pain of an elephant, but when our brothers and sisters suffer we feel nothing??
i would guess that what happends to fellow man usually gets blammed on mankind, but animal pain is something we shouldnt be responsible for and feel a different kind of sadness |
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