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The Tides - You CAN Explain That!

Hits: 8920 | Rating: (3.1) | Category: Science | Added by: kitteh9lives
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HiEv
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 393 Posts
Saturday, January 14, 2012 1:05:25 PM
@CrakrJak: "It just irks me about how these atheist people say they can explain everything with science, except for those inconvenient holes in their theories."

And it irks me when Christians try to fill those holes with God. All it does is create an ever-shrinking God of the gaps as science continues to fill in those holes.

"They say it as if we should just stop being skeptical and accept the 'reality' of flawed theories."

The theories are not "flawed". They work quite well, thankyouverymuch. Missing some evidence that helps nail down or confirm some details isn't the same as being "flawed". Being flawed would require that it is wrong in some way, and I have yet to see the evidence for that.

Yes, they're not confirmed down to the tiniest detail or comprehensive in all areas, but absurd goal setting aside, they work quite well when used in the domains they're meant to cover.

HiEv
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 393 Posts
Saturday, January 14, 2012 12:56:19 PM
For those who don't get what this has to do with Bill O'Reilly, he claimed, "Tide goes in, tide goes out. Never a miscommunication. YOU can't explain that." Brassbull posted a link to a video where Mr. O'Reilly makes that scientifically illiterate claim.

GRadde
Male, 18-29, Europe
 2567 Posts
Saturday, January 14, 2012 2:43:12 AM
Now that's bad tidings. HA!

DixxyRarr
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
 2677 Posts
Friday, January 13, 2012 8:15:01 PM
culberto: I was first going to say 'religion has nothing to do with it'... but that's completely wrong. Of course it does. It's just interesting to me that religion and the bible have led some people so far away from what's really in front of them. Why would god create a intricate, complicated, beautiful world for us to completely disrespect and destroy?? Wouldn't god want us to learn about his world and theorize how it functions? I think so... it seems to me god-lovers should WANT to dedicate their lives to science and the love of his natural 'gifts'. Why have the two strayed so far apart?

Also- I don't think I've invented a reality that's unrealistic, if there is a god- he is in the details, as the saying goes.

Zeegrr60
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 1759 Posts
Friday, January 13, 2012 8:13:22 PM
I think it's sad that people think there is a god. If you call your make believe friend in the sky with all those wonderful super powers "Steve" instead of god, they'd medicate you till you drool.

culberto
Male, 18-29, Europe
 71 Posts
Friday, January 13, 2012 3:47:34 PM
@DixxyRarr Have you found a religion that describes your God yet? It's nice to hear a happy internet person, but I have to say, it's pretty easy to invent a reality that makes us feel warm and fuzzy inside, even if it's completely unrealistic. By your standards, I believe in a God, but by my own, I *totally* don't.

DixxyRarr
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
 2677 Posts
Friday, January 13, 2012 1:29:41 PM
I find it interesting (and sad) that some people think you can't have god and science at the same time. Sure, I have an internal struggle with faith (but you're supposed to right?) BUT what really holds me to my belief in a god, is the pure beauty and harmony that exists in nature and science and evolution and the amazing way that our earth works. If there is a god, he made this and all of it's wonder. Learn about it, appreciate it, be humbled by it. God IS nature and god IS science. They don't have to be separate/fighting forces.

whorku
Male, 18-29, Europe
 9 Posts
Friday, January 13, 2012 12:57:49 PM
time to water my sheep

freedan104
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 79 Posts
Friday, January 13, 2012 12:41:39 PM
@Crakr, Your logic is flawed. Not everything in the world works as a two-way street, although some things admittedly can be reversed that way. I don't know much about physics, but I can tell from your comments that you don't know much either. And your retort to cajun is the equivalent of a first grader's insult, try harder.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 16153 Posts
Friday, January 13, 2012 11:57:04 AM
Cajun: It just irks me about how these atheist people say they can explain everything with science, except for those inconvenient holes in their theories. They say it as if we should just stop being skeptical and accept the "reality" of flawed theories. This just means it will take a long time and huge sums of money to try and prove, they say.

Cajun247
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 10119 Posts
Friday, January 13, 2012 7:25:53 AM
It just irks me about how these religious people say see you can't explain that. They say it as if we should just stop trying and accept the "reality" of some omnipotent and omniprescient being. This does not mean we never will know, it will just take a long time.

DixxyRarr
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
 2677 Posts
Friday, January 13, 2012 6:30:30 AM
God! Just leave the sheep alone, people!

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 16153 Posts
Friday, January 13, 2012 12:56:53 AM
So what will you do if the Higgs boson is found?


Then you have to ask, Why has it been so hard, for such a particle with that much mass, to find ?

Honestly, it's akin to hiding a 747 on a freeway.

Theoretically, since we can produce energy from matter we should be able to produce matter from energy, but without the Higgs we are left with a one way street.

Draculya
Male, 40-49, Asia
 10264 Posts
Thursday, January 12, 2012 10:51:20 PM
"they still haven't found the atomic mass responsible for all this gravity"

Well possibly that's because it must be massless in order to act at unlimited range.

"thus gravity still isn't completely explained and may not ever be."

Well, it's certainly not an infinite swarm of quantum angels pulling you back onto the planet and just because science hasn't declared that it has observed an agent of effect doesn't prove the existance of an all powerful omnipresent imaginary friend.

That's like saying you've proved string theory because you've never seen a church-certified photograph of a cherub.

carmium
Female, 50-59, Canada
 5674 Posts
Thursday, January 12, 2012 7:01:54 PM
"I don't get it. What's that to do with Bill O'Reilly?"
O'Reilly is what we call a religious moron, and probably thinks God causes the tides for his own amusement. Anyone have a Bill quote for that...?

Steelgrid
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
 2704 Posts
Thursday, January 12, 2012 5:19:53 PM
"So what will you do if the Higgs boson is found?"

Like Dinosaur bones, they will say "Someone put them there"

"This is a fine explanation and all, but they still haven't found the atomic mass responsible for all this gravity, thus gravity still isn't completely explained and may not ever be."

And this matters to this post why? Nice attempt to make a point against an argument that was never there. Kinda like talking to god.

Steelgrid
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
 2704 Posts
Thursday, January 12, 2012 5:17:34 PM
"...who didn't already know this?"

Bill O Reilly

Brassbull
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 1608 Posts
Thursday, January 12, 2012 4:57:01 PM
@metalhannes - watch this for an answer. Skip to 1:50 for the meat of it.

snakecharmer
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 321 Posts
Thursday, January 12, 2012 4:55:57 PM
Hmmm, so that's why my ballsack bulges twice a day

metalhannes
Male, 18-29, Europe
 141 Posts
Thursday, January 12, 2012 4:35:29 PM
I don't get it. What's that to do with Bill O'Reilly?

metalhannes
Male, 18-29, Europe
 141 Posts
Thursday, January 12, 2012 4:24:29 PM
I don't get it. What's that to do with Bill O'Reilly?

cyborg
Male, 13-17, Midwest US
 2799 Posts
Thursday, January 12, 2012 4:18:40 PM
...who didn't already know this?

Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
 10537 Posts
Thursday, January 12, 2012 3:36:59 PM
This is a fine explanation and all, but they still haven't found the atomic mass responsible for all this gravity, thus gravity still isn't completely explained and may not ever be.


Which is irrelevant to the question of what causes tides - that is explained and that was the point.

I'm assuming you're referring to the lack of experimental evidence directly supporting the currently pencilled-in explanation of how matter has mass.

So what will you do if the Higgs boson is found?

Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
 10537 Posts
Thursday, January 12, 2012 3:33:14 PM
you are talking at molecular level


Sub-atomic, really.

Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
 10537 Posts
Thursday, January 12, 2012 3:31:17 PM
[quote">magnets, how do they work?[/quote">

Fake Science to the rescue!

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