 DrCat
Male, 30-39, Australia
 69 Posts
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Sunday, February 05, 2012 1:36:38 PM
Technically it is a logical fallacy to compare a live cell to a dead cell. There is a pretty major difference there. |
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 ElijaBlack
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
218 Posts
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Saturday, January 14, 2012 5:17:59 AM
its like eating eggs technically they're like chicken periods but with bacon.
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 Solarmew
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
119 Posts
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Friday, January 13, 2012 8:06:35 PM
exfoliating is removal of cells that are already dead ... analogy fail ... |
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 penguinazul
Female, 18-29, Southern US
472 Posts
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Thursday, January 12, 2012 9:21:15 PM
Dixxy, did you ever take into consideration that some women CAN'T use birth control, and that it is particularly unsafe for women over the age of 35 to take birth control? What do you suggest for those people? Just don't have sex unless you plan on procreating? You can be as sexually responsible as possible, but the only thing that prevents pregnancy 100% is abstinence. Condoms fail and birth control fails, and it's unfair to force a woman to go through a pregnancy for a child she doesn't even want; especially when she's at an age where it's particularly dangerous for her to carry a child. A woman shouldn't be denied a decent sex life simply because she can't handle synthetic hormones being secreted into her system. |
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 madduck
Female, 40-49, Europe
2972 Posts
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Thursday, January 12, 2012 3:05:30 PM
Lol- ok Dixxy- here it is refered to as either the morning after or emergency -never plan b. As I said, for some condoms are it- well maybe a diaphram but that doesn't really go with condoms ( imagine the squeak!) But I get the point- given that the morning after make you feel rank I can't see anyone who had it once using it again unless it really WAS an emergency..... ok---- really, i'm done sweetie!! |
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 DixxyRarr
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
2677 Posts
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Thursday, January 12, 2012 9:49:59 AM
Also- and this is my last thing, I swear :)
I saw this article recently about pharmacies turning women down for Plan B. And I was horrified because I think it should be available to women. BUT- I was even more horrified that the author of the article referred to the use of Plan B as 'safe sex'.
We shouldn't be teaching in sex ed that pregnancy scares are the norm and abortions are something that 'most women go through'... because it doesn't have to be that way. |
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DixxyRarr
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
2677 Posts
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Thursday, January 12, 2012 9:40:24 AM
So dixxy when somebody starts having a heart attack do we make them go get a doctor's appointment to get emergency blood vessel dilation meds and then right after the appointment, 6-8 weeks from now, they can call the ambulance?
Yes. Because that's the same thing. *eye roll* |
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DixxyRarr
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
2677 Posts
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Thursday, January 12, 2012 9:37:47 AM
madduck and I-IS-BORED: I'm saying that both Plan B and abortions are almost completely unnecessary if one uses the proper precautions. Condoms AND birth control. Always. Every damn time.
I emphasize this heavily because I know too many people (I refuse to say women, bc safe sex is both party's responsibility) who are NOT using these precautions and just relying on the fact that Plan B will be available. PREVENTION, is what I'm pushing... it may seem like I'm splitting hairs, but the real number of people practicing safe sex is terrifyingly low.
Plan B is not safe sex. Just condoms is not safe sex. Just birth control is not safe sex.
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 yusuksomuch
Male, 40-49, Western US
1002 Posts
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Thursday, January 12, 2012 7:31:43 AM
i used to be against abortion, then when i got older and realized most people shouldn't even be allowed around children let alone be a parent,now i just see it as mercy killing, abortions should be free and come with sterilization too |
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 I-IS-BORED
Male, 18-29, Canada
2432 Posts
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Thursday, January 12, 2012 7:30:41 AM
So dixxy when somebody starts having a heart attack do we make them go get a doctor's appointment to get emergency blood vessel dilation meds and then right after the appointment, 6-8 weeks from now, they can call the ambulance? |
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 EgalM
Male, 18-29, Canada
1690 Posts
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Thursday, January 12, 2012 6:07:28 AM
I would hardly say that they are even remotely close to the same thing. Having said that, what a women does to her own body is her own business, and she can deal with the consequences. |
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 lawndartsftw
Male, 40-49, Canada
1815 Posts
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Thursday, January 12, 2012 5:29:24 AM
@dracuyla. A full-term new-born baby cannot "sustain" itself outside the womb, after being born. All birth is, imo, is a change of enviroment.... |
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 Mr_Pedo_Bear
Male, 70 & Over, Southern US
338 Posts
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Thursday, January 12, 2012 4:06:35 AM
@Madduck we got the morning after pill the other day. I kept rubbing her stomach saying goodbye little bundle of joy she just doesn't want you. I thought she was going to hit me at one point. Made the doctor at family planning clinic really awkward dealing with us. But hey she knows my sense of humour haha |
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 PopCap
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
229 Posts
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Thursday, January 12, 2012 3:04:49 AM
"No one gets lynched for exfoliating"?! That's genius! That's a pretty good argument for postnatal abortion. "Your honor, I didn't 'kill' the victim, I exfoliated his mom". That totally works for me. |
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 sexytexan876
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
42 Posts
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Thursday, January 12, 2012 2:16:25 AM
I always love these little debates on abortion. The way I see things: if it doesn't affect me in a way other than making me slightly uncomfortable (emotionally speaking) then I really shouldn't have a say in what happens.
What does it matter to you if the mom kills her kid? "But it could be the person who cures cancer!" Yeah, and it could be the next Jeffrey Dahmer. |
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eSc
Male, 18-29, Australia
27 Posts
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Thursday, January 12, 2012 1:56:36 AM
one thing one of my bio lectures told me is that there is no real start to life, its not like you grow a bunch of cells and then bam lightening zap and its alive |
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madduck
Female, 40-49, Europe
2972 Posts
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Wednesday, January 11, 2012 11:47:01 PM
Ok dixxy- just curious here- you seem to class the morning after pill as abortion- but why? Are we talking about the same thing? Hefty dose of progesterone taken within 72 hours of intercourse. Prevents either fertilization or implantation? This really does hit blastocytes at worst- |
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 Discobiscuit
Male, 18-29, Western US
543 Posts
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Wednesday, January 11, 2012 10:45:32 PM
Where do you draw the line? Just if the baby has/hasn't seen the hospital lights yet?
So ambiguous. Shame the issue has to come up even at all. Be careful, all you horny buggers |
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 Draculya
Male, 30-39, Asia
6686 Posts
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Wednesday, January 11, 2012 10:31:44 PM
As long as the foetus is neither conscious, nor capable of sustaining life outside the womb, abortion is solely the business of a pregnant woman or her legal guardians if she is under age. This is self evident and a matter of common sense. It is only the religiously blinded who cannot see that. The abolition of abortion serves only to impoverish and enslave women. |
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lawndartsftw
Male, 40-49, Canada
1815 Posts
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Wednesday, January 11, 2012 8:57:52 PM
Exfoliated cells (from your face, usually) dont eventually grow to become a unique human being. Imo, her argument is invalid..... |
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 tacks
Female, 18-29, Canada
154 Posts
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Wednesday, January 11, 2012 7:37:49 PM
Team Samantha! |
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SephirothA83
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
950 Posts
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Wednesday, January 11, 2012 5:27:07 PM
samantha = winning |
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DixxyRarr
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
2677 Posts
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Wednesday, January 11, 2012 5:17:02 PM
I-IS-BORED: something tells me if you used condoms and birth control, you wouldn't need Plan B. Sh*t, I've never needed it... |
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I-IS-BORED
Male, 18-29, Canada
2432 Posts
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Wednesday, January 11, 2012 3:23:46 PM
"then I think you should have to make a doctor appt for Plan B"
really? a doctor appointment for the morning after pill? do we just schedule them in advance for the morning after everyday we're going to have sex? |
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 ElMustache
Male, 18-29, Western US
1592 Posts
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Wednesday, January 11, 2012 3:17:51 PM
Samantha:1 Marjorie:0 |
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