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Top 10 Grammar Pet Peeves [Pic]

Hits: 48716 | Rating: (2.9) | Category: Misc. | Added by: eugenius
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Roland
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
 225 Posts
Tuesday, January 10, 2012 11:38:54 PM
The "literally " example is the one that always gets me.

ActualJesus
Male, 13-17, Southern US
 1 Posts
Tuesday, January 10, 2012 7:33:50 PM
"Effect" is a verb too.

WickedSteak
Male, 18-29, Western US
 323 Posts
Monday, January 09, 2012 4:04:23 PM
I don't make these mistakes, but I'm also not a douche to those that do.

Quik2TheStab
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 665 Posts
Monday, January 09, 2012 11:55:23 AM
I have literally never heard anyone say 'short-lived' with a long 'i.' In pronouncing it that way you manage to sound pretentious and uneducated at the same time, regardless of how much you "respect the language," or how "proper" it is.

almightybob1
Male, 18-29, Europe
 4278 Posts
Monday, January 09, 2012 7:20:26 AM
Well I'll be damned. I didn't know that. Thanks Ollie.


I'm still going to keep pronouncing it with a short i though, because the other way just sounds really weird to me and I've never heard a single person say it with a long i. Must be a regional thing but everyone says it with a short i here.

HiEv
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 598 Posts
Monday, January 09, 2012 6:38:05 AM
@OldOllie, see the dictionary: short-lived which shows both pronunciations and under lived it specifically says "Both pronunciations are considered standard" (hit the "Expand" button if you don't see that bit).

You may once have been right, but language evolves and doesn't follow rules or logic well. Basically, you're trying to put the genie back in the bottle, and it left over a century ago.

OldOllie
Male, 60-69, Midwest US
 14376 Posts
Sunday, January 08, 2012 10:35:03 PM
At least we don't spell color with a U.

/troll ya back.

davymid
Male, 30-39, Europe
 12078 Posts
Sunday, January 08, 2012 10:15:29 PM
Ollie, with all your grammatical propriety and examples of how the English language should be used, you yanks can't even spell "Aluminium" correctly.

/troll.

OldOllie
Male, 60-69, Midwest US
 14376 Posts
Sunday, January 08, 2012 9:01:23 PM
Okay, one more time. "Short-lived" is of the same form as left-handed, wrong-headed, three-legged, two-wheeled, or one-armed. In all of these cases, the second part of the compound refers to a NOUN, i.e., hand, head, leg, wheel, arm, and LIFE. If someone favors his left hand, he is left-handed. If a stool has three legs, it's three-legged. And if something has a short life, it's short-lived with a long i.

We're not talking about being handed something, or heading in a certain direction, or legging it down the street. In that same sense we are NOT talking about living a sort time; we are talking about having a short LIFE.

I will grant you that "short-livved" is used extensively by otherwise educated persons. And yes, the short i pronunciation is in about half the online dictionaries. "Ain't," BTW, is also used extensively, and it's in even MORE dictionaries than "short-livved," but it's still improper.

OldOllie
Male, 60-69, Midwest US
 14376 Posts
Sunday, January 08, 2012 8:53:04 PM
What about when people say "that's a whole nother story" or something similar?

You mean like fan f***in' TASTIC?


x13purplesta
Female, 30-39, Canada
 235 Posts
Sunday, January 08, 2012 6:41:14 PM
What about when people say "that's a whole nother story" or something similar? Is NOTHER a word now?

skiier37
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 19 Posts
Sunday, January 08, 2012 4:43:10 PM
ah i see what you did there in the description.

Trillian42
Female, 18-29, Southern US
 341 Posts
Sunday, January 08, 2012 12:50:59 PM
Could HAVE, not could "of"!

simbha
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 412 Posts
Sunday, January 08, 2012 5:47:51 AM
(Cut me off, even though I was under 1000 characters...)

[...] Conversely, 'effect' can be a verb, when used to convey causality (e.g., "Force effects acceleration.").

simbha
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 412 Posts
Sunday, January 08, 2012 5:46:13 AM
#s 2 and 8 are not precisely correct.

2. An apostrophe is never used to form a plural.

An apostrophe CAN be used to form a plural, under certain circumstances. Notable exceptions include: when forming the plural of abbreviations containing interior periods (e.g., M.D.'s, Ph.D.'s) or when using the plural form of lower case letters (e.g., mind your p's and q's).

8. "Affect" is a verb. "Effect" is a noun.

First off, I'd like to point out that the proper punctuation in the above sentence would be: 'Affect' is a verb. 'Effect' is a noun. This is because the quotations are being used for emphasis and focus, rather than an actual quote or an emphasis of an entire phrase.

Anyway, it's not precisely correct that 'affect' is always a verb and that 'effect' is always a noun. 'Affect' can be a noun, when used as a synonym for emotion (e.g., "My niece's affect was strong on Christmas day."). Conversely, 'effect' can be a ve

madduck
Female, 50-59, Europe
 5790 Posts
Sunday, January 08, 2012 2:28:07 AM
LOL- busted! I don't often wear glasses at the PC- but it is still not correct where I live. That is in England. Obviously it may differ elsewhere- but I assure you that here a long i would show you up to be non-native!

HiEv
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 598 Posts
Sunday, January 08, 2012 12:32:20 AM
madduck: "Actually- from where I come from if you maked short lived rhyme with high fived you must be a foreigner. A short i in lived thank you."

I believe you mean, "if you made". "Maked" isn't a proper word. It sounds like an error a "foreigner" would make when conjugating the verb "make".

Anyways, both pronunciations are correct.

Suicism
Male, 18-29, Western US
 3672 Posts
Sunday, January 08, 2012 12:32:10 AM
Um - how many of them do you commit in the average post I-A-B?

OldOllie
Male, 60-69, Midwest US
 14376 Posts
Saturday, January 07, 2012 11:01:37 PM
The boy only lived for three months. The boy was short-lived.
"Lived" is pronounced the same in both those sentences.


No, the boy had a short LIFE; he was short-LIVED.

"Livved" in this context has become accepted, but accepted is not the same as proper. Look up "ain't" if you don't believe me. Because of its CONSTANT misuse over time, it has insinuated itself into the common vernacular, but it never was and never will be "proper."

About half of the online dictionaries have both pronunciations, and the other half have only the long i. Not a single one has only the short i.

Also, consider that "livved" is the past-tense of a VERB! How does that even make sense with an adjective as a unit modifier?

If you want those of us who truly respect the language and appreciate its proper use to think of you as an ignorant hillbilly, by all means, keep saying "short-livved."

ojy
Female, 18-29, Southern US
 3 Posts
Saturday, January 07, 2012 2:29:55 PM
supermoo9999: This is true, but in this day and age, where it is perfectly acceptable to substitute TV for television and fridge for refrigerator, it seems rather petty to single out other "substandard" words derived from the varying dialects across America.

supermoo9999
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 22 Posts
Saturday, January 07, 2012 1:16:25 PM
ojy: While 'irregardless' is technically a word, it is nonstandard - i.e. unacceptable in formal English usage. 'Irrespective' and 'regardless' are both formally acceptable words for the same concept (and are presumably the source words for the aforementioned 'irregardless'.)

lukas1051
Male, 18-29, Europe
 3420 Posts
Saturday, January 07, 2012 12:50:03 PM
#1 and #3 are definitely the most annoying. When you do it wrong, you mean the exact opposite of what you actually mean.

ojy
Female, 18-29, Southern US
 3 Posts
Saturday, January 07, 2012 12:28:30 PM
#8 - wrong. Both affect and effect can be used as a noun or a verb and have separate meanings. Affect as a noun means a feeling or observable manifestation of emotion, and as a verb means to feign(to put on a pretense of) or to produce an effect or material influence upon. Example: I just affected grammatical knowledge to make my point, while my lack of affect shows that I really couldn't care less about the grammar used by people I do not know.

Effect as a noun means a piece of property or something that inevitably follows a cause, and as a verb means to bring about, put into operation, or cause to come into being. Example: One would think think that the effect of my explanation would be that others would be more educated, but sadly, it will effect few people's vocabulary.

The key difference is that the verb effect goes beyond mere influence; it refers to actual achievement of a final result.

ojy
Female, 18-29, Southern US
 3 Posts
Saturday, January 07, 2012 12:27:48 PM
One of my biggest pet peeves is grammar nazis who don't know what they are talking about. Haha.
Seriously though -
#2 - wrong. An apostrophe can be used to indicate the omission of letters or figures, the possessive case, or the plural of letters or figures. Example: The fussy hopeful grammarian's point wouldn't look so silly if they had checked their facts while making sure to dot all their i's and cross all their t's.

#8 - wrong. (See next post)

#10 - wrong. Irregardless is a word and is in the dictionary. It has been used for over 100 years, and while it means the same as regardless, many people do not like hearing it. Irregardless of their opinion, it is a valid word. :D

LuckyDave
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 674 Posts
Saturday, January 07, 2012 12:23:45 PM
Only the English seem to give two s#its about "I could care less" or at least from what I've seen. There is this thing called sarcasm, and with the right tone "I could care less" means the exact same thing, except it roots out the grammar Nazis and the stupid.

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