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Roland Male, 30-39, Midwest US 157 Posts	Tuesday, January 10, 2012 11:38:54 PM The "literally " example is the one that always gets me.

ActualJesus Male, 13-17, Southern US 1 Posts	Tuesday, January 10, 2012 7:33:50 PM "Effect" is a verb too.

WickedSteak Male, 18-29, Western US 323 Posts	Monday, January 09, 2012 4:04:23 PM I don't make these mistakes, but I'm also not a douche to those that do.

Quik2TheStab Male, 18-29, Eastern US 665 Posts	Monday, January 09, 2012 11:55:23 AM I have literally never heard anyone say 'short-lived' with a long 'i.' In pronouncing it that way you manage to sound pretentious and uneducated at the same time, regardless of how much you "respect the language," or how "proper" it is.

almightybob1 Male, 18-29, Europe 4278 Posts	Monday, January 09, 2012 7:20:26 AM Well I'll be damned. I didn't know that. Thanks Ollie. I'm still going to keep pronouncing it with a short i though, because the other way just sounds really weird to me and I've never heard a single person say it with a long i. Must be a regional thing but everyone says it with a short i here.

HiEv Male, 40-49, Eastern US 384 Posts	Monday, January 09, 2012 6:38:05 AM @OldOllie, see the dictionary: short-lived which shows both pronunciations and under lived it specifically says "Both pronunciations are considered standard" (hit the "Expand" button if you don't see that bit). You may once have been right, but language evolves and doesn't follow rules or logic well. Basically, you're trying to put the genie back in the bottle, and it left over a century ago.

OldOllie Male, 50-59, Midwest US 8708 Posts	Sunday, January 08, 2012 10:35:03 PM At least we don't spell color with a U. /troll ya back.

davymid Male, 30-39, Europe 11676 Posts	Sunday, January 08, 2012 10:15:29 PM Ollie, with all your grammatical propriety and examples of how the English language should be used, you yanks can't even spell "Aluminium" correctly. /troll.

OldOllie Male, 50-59, Midwest US 8708 Posts	Sunday, January 08, 2012 9:01:23 PM Okay, one more time. "Short-lived" is of the same form as left-handed, wrong-headed, three-legged, two-wheeled, or one-armed. In all of these cases, the second part of the compound refers to a NOUN, i.e., hand, head, leg, wheel, arm, and LIFE. If someone favors his left hand, he is left-handed. If a stool has three legs, it's three-legged. And if something has a short life, it's short-lived with a long i. We're not talking about being handed something, or heading in a certain direction, or legging it down the street. In that same sense we are NOT talking about living a sort time; we are talking about having a short LIFE. I will grant you that "short-livved" is used extensively by otherwise educated persons. And yes, the short i pronunciation is in about half the online dictionaries. "Ain't," BTW, is also used extensively, and it's in even MORE dictionaries than "short-livved," but it's still improper.

OldOllie Male, 50-59, Midwest US 8708 Posts	Sunday, January 08, 2012 8:53:04 PM What about when people say "that's a whole nother story" or something similar? You mean like fan fin' TASTIC?*

x13purplesta Female, 30-39, Canada 233 Posts	Sunday, January 08, 2012 6:41:14 PM What about when people say "that's a whole nother story" or something similar? Is NOTHER a word now?

skiier37 Female, 18-29, Eastern US 19 Posts	Sunday, January 08, 2012 4:43:10 PM ah i see what you did there in the description.

Trillian42 Female, 18-29, Southern US 341 Posts	Sunday, January 08, 2012 12:50:59 PM Could HAVE, not could "of"!

simbha Male, 30-39, Southern US 396 Posts	Sunday, January 08, 2012 5:47:51 AM (Cut me off, even though I was under 1000 characters...) [...] Conversely, 'effect' can be a verb, when used to convey causality (e.g., "Force effects acceleration.").

simbha Male, 30-39, Southern US 396 Posts	Sunday, January 08, 2012 5:46:13 AM #s 2 and 8 are not precisely correct. 2. An apostrophe is never used to form a plural. An apostrophe CAN be used to form a plural, under certain circumstances. Notable exceptions include: when forming the plural of abbreviations containing interior periods (e.g., M.D.'s, Ph.D.'s) or when using the plural form of lower case letters (e.g., mind your p's and q's). 8. "Affect" is a verb. "Effect" is a noun. First off, I'd like to point out that the proper punctuation in the above sentence would be: 'Affect' is a verb. 'Effect' is a noun. This is because the quotations are being used for emphasis and focus, rather than an actual quote or an emphasis of an entire phrase. Anyway, it's not precisely correct that 'affect' is always a verb and that 'effect' is always a noun. 'Affect' can be a noun, when used as a synonym for emotion (e.g., "My niece's affect was strong on Christmas day."). Conversely, 'effect' can be a ve

madduck Female, 40-49, Europe 2819 Posts	Sunday, January 08, 2012 2:28:07 AM LOL- busted! I don't often wear glasses at the PC- but it is still not correct where I live. That is in England. Obviously it may differ elsewhere- but I assure you that here a long i would show you up to be non-native!

HiEv Male, 40-49, Eastern US 384 Posts	Sunday, January 08, 2012 12:32:20 AM madduck: "Actually- from where I come from if you maked short lived rhyme with high fived you must be a foreigner. A short i in lived thank you." I believe you mean, "if you made". "Maked" isn't a proper word. It sounds like an error a "foreigner" would make when conjugating the verb "make". Anyways, both pronunciations are correct.

Suicism Male, 18-29, Western US 3534 Posts	Sunday, January 08, 2012 12:32:10 AM Um - how many of them do you commit in the average post I-A-B?

OldOllie Male, 50-59, Midwest US 8708 Posts	Saturday, January 07, 2012 11:01:37 PM The boy only lived for three months. The boy was short-lived. "Lived" is pronounced the same in both those sentences. No, the boy had a short LIFE; he was short-LIVED. "Livved" in this context has become accepted, but accepted is not the same as proper. Look up "ain't" if you don't believe me. Because of its CONSTANT misuse over time, it has insinuated itself into the common vernacular, but it never was and never will be "proper." About half of the online dictionaries have both pronunciations, and the other half have only the long i. Not a single one has only the short i. Also, consider that "livved" is the past-tense of a VERB! How does that even make sense with an adjective as a unit modifier? If you want those of us who truly respect the language and appreciate its proper use to think of you as an ignorant hillbilly, by all means, keep saying "short-livved."

ojy Female, 18-29, Southern US 3 Posts	Saturday, January 07, 2012 2:29:55 PM supermoo9999: This is true, but in this day and age, where it is perfectly acceptable to substitute TV for television and fridge for refrigerator, it seems rather petty to single out other "substandard" words derived from the varying dialects across America.

supermoo9999 Male, 18-29, Midwest US 21 Posts	Saturday, January 07, 2012 1:16:25 PM ojy: While 'irregardless' is technically a word, it is nonstandard - i.e. unacceptable in formal English usage. 'Irrespective' and 'regardless' are both formally acceptable words for the same concept (and are presumably the source words for the aforementioned 'irregardless'.)

lukas1051 Male, 18-29, Europe 3420 Posts	Saturday, January 07, 2012 12:50:03 PM #1 and #3 are definitely the most annoying. When you do it wrong, you mean the exact opposite of what you actually mean.

ojy Female, 18-29, Southern US 3 Posts	Saturday, January 07, 2012 12:28:30 PM #8 - wrong. Both affect and effect can be used as a noun or a verb and have separate meanings. Affect as a noun means a feeling or observable manifestation of emotion, and as a verb means to feign(to put on a pretense of) or to produce an effect or material influence upon. Example: I just affected grammatical knowledge to make my point, while my lack of affect shows that I really couldn't care less about the grammar used by people I do not know. Effect as a noun means a piece of property or something that inevitably follows a cause, and as a verb means to bring about, put into operation, or cause to come into being. Example: One would think think that the effect of my explanation would be that others would be more educated, but sadly, it will effect few people's vocabulary. The key difference is that the verb effect goes beyond mere influence; it refers to actual achievement of a final result.

ojy Female, 18-29, Southern US 3 Posts	Saturday, January 07, 2012 12:27:48 PM One of my biggest pet peeves is grammar nazis who don't know what they are talking about. Haha. Seriously though - #2 - wrong. An apostrophe can be used to indicate the omission of letters or figures, the possessive case, or the plural of letters or figures. Example: The fussy hopeful grammarian's point wouldn't look so silly if they had checked their facts while making sure to dot all their i's and cross all their t's. #8 - wrong. (See next post) #10 - wrong. Irregardless is a word and is in the dictionary. It has been used for over 100 years, and while it means the same as regardless, many people do not like hearing it. Irregardless of their opinion, it is a valid word. :D

LuckyDave Male, 18-29, Eastern US 628 Posts	Saturday, January 07, 2012 12:23:45 PM Only the English seem to give two s#its about "I could care less" or at least from what I've seen. There is this thing called sarcasm, and with the right tone "I could care less" means the exact same thing, except it roots out the grammar Nazis and the stupid.