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Cops Kill Armed 8th Grader In Texas School [Pic+]

Hits: 23213 | Rating: (2.9) | Category: News & Politics | Added by: fancylad
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frnttrndy
Male, 50-59, Midwest US
 49 Posts
Monday, April 09, 2012 7:14:00 AM
Would Jessy shoot him if he were black

frnttrndy
Male, 50-59, Midwest US
 49 Posts
Monday, April 09, 2012 7:03:54 AM
If someone pointed anything that resembls a gun at me with "Jessy Jacksons Permision" I would shoot him in the head to make sure he didnt get a 2nd shot

SunThunder
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 98 Posts
Friday, March 30, 2012 3:01:43 PM
Cops did right. Would you rather have another Virginia Tech or Colombine?

punk7634
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 194 Posts
Sunday, January 08, 2012 5:43:53 AM
I'm curious as to why the pellet gun didn't have some kind of orange cap or marking indicating that it was a pellet gun and not a firearm. I thought it was required that all toy guns or any sort had that to indicate to law enforcement that it's just a toy. The article didn't say he painted to gun or somehow removed the cap, but I'm under the assumption he did.

Llamakhan
Male, 18-29, Canada
 19 Posts
Friday, January 06, 2012 9:30:06 PM
I see a lot of people asking why the police don't use non lethal weapons to subdue suspects with guns or knifes. The reason for this is if you get tazed and you are holding a fire arm your fist will automatically clench and will result in the disscharge of the firearm, if the person has a knife he could fall on the blade.
Using pepper spray doesn't always work and can infact make the suspect angry and more willing to fire blindly. Any time a person of any age is holding a gun and refuses to put it down and then aims it at police they are required to shoot first and ask questions later, there could be innocent people in the background.

MeGrendel
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 4370 Posts
Friday, January 06, 2012 8:38:52 PM
almightybob1-" non-lethal alternative like tazer or something would have been better"

Sure, YOU'RE free to bring some pepper-spray to a gun fight. An officer is smart enough to use the most effective method to keep himself and others from getting shot.

Corpsecrank-"amazed that a trained officer could not distinguish the difference between a pellet gun and a real weapon."

Here's two pistols. One is a BB gun, the other a 9x18 Makarov:


Please, tell us which is which.

Take your time (which the cops did not have).
Examine them closely (which they could not do).

Would you be willing to bet your life, and the lives of others, on your selection?

ilurk
Female, 18-29, Southern US
 220 Posts
Friday, January 06, 2012 5:26:04 PM
Why didn't he drop the god damn thing? Cops acted appropriately. The kid could have saved his own life.

McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 13246 Posts
Friday, January 06, 2012 10:14:41 AM
@almightybob1

Many states here require that also.

almightybob1
Male, 18-29, Europe
 4278 Posts
Friday, January 06, 2012 6:42:53 AM
McGovern: How did Whitman arm himself? By buying rifles and shotguns over the counter. In Denmark you require a gun license before you can buy guns, which requires proof of a legitimate reason for owning the gun, as well as criminal and mental record checks.

almightybob1
Male, 18-29, Europe
 4278 Posts
Friday, January 06, 2012 6:31:53 AM
Actually, cops don't shoot to kill; they shoot to stop.

When you shoot anything, you are shooting to kill.


Anyway, a non-lethal alternative like tazer or something would have been better and stopped them having to kill him, but apart from that I can't criticise the police. If you repeatedly ignore the instructions of armed cops, and point a replica gun at people, you are going to get shot, because the police can't afford to assume it's fake in a country with so many real handguns available.

Hoofer
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 131 Posts
Friday, January 06, 2012 12:07:46 AM
Okay guys, this is how officers are trained. If the gun looks real, he's told MULTIPLE times to put it down and refuses, and then points what LOOKS LIKE a real gun at the officers? You're going to get shot. Real gun or not, doesn't matter how old you are. The officers reacted appropriatly.

RdDan
Male, 30-39, Europe
 760 Posts
Thursday, January 05, 2012 5:08:39 PM
Darwin strikes again.
Next idiot please

Fatninja01
Male, 18-29, Australia
 24492 Posts
Thursday, January 05, 2012 12:25:50 PM
wow.. looks like they didnt get the joke

McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 13246 Posts
Thursday, January 05, 2012 10:38:20 AM
@izaq

Charles Whitman killed 16 and wounded 32 with what many considered hunting rifles. What exactly does Denmark consider "ok" and "bad"? A pistol on average is only effective to about 50 yards a rifle is much greater than that and hit harder so in reality those restriction accomplish nothing.

JolieTheMute
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
 42 Posts
Thursday, January 05, 2012 10:19:41 AM
What an idiot.

patchgrabber
Male, 30-39, Canada
 5692 Posts
Thursday, January 05, 2012 8:15:14 AM
@Izaq: But if you didn't have a gun, then the King of England could just walk in there anytime he wants and start shoving you around.

patchgrabber
Male, 30-39, Canada
 5692 Posts
Thursday, January 05, 2012 8:13:02 AM
Actually, cops don't shoot to kill; they shoot to stop. That means shooting the center of mass. Cops will never take a head shot unless that's the only shot they can get.


^This. They're trained for center mass because it's the greatest chance of a hit. Anyone who says they should shoot in the leg needs to use a brain and not just accept whatever they see on fictional shows/movies.

LazyMe484
Male, 18-29, Canada
 10503 Posts
Thursday, January 05, 2012 6:45:34 AM
How the hell would you know that?
I assumed as much. If you don't like my definition, I can make it "things are sad when there is a loss of any kind", which this story does meet, just barely.

My point is that I don't consider this story "sad", at all.

Most people if put in place of the cop would have shot the kid as well.

chance13
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 221 Posts
Thursday, January 05, 2012 6:06:12 AM
@Izaq The homicide rate for Denmark (firearm related) is 1.46 homicides per 100,000 people..which is equal to most of the European countries (even those that allow firearm ownership)...so, apparently not all guns held in Denmark are fake...so, if your cops always believe they are...you have REALLY stupid police.

TKD_Master
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 4827 Posts
Thursday, January 05, 2012 5:37:26 AM
Izaq you are stupid. If guns were 100% banned in America, then who would have guns? Nobody? Wrong. The same people that deal with illegal drugs would then have illegal firearms, while our police have tasers and batons to deal with their guns. Also do some research, washington DC has more gun crime than other gun-allowed places.

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 24435 Posts
Thursday, January 05, 2012 5:36:58 AM
@Izaq: And others who don't think lawful citizens should own guns: Read This (I submitted it to IAB alreaady)

His 'fake gun' was loud enough to be heard in the classrooms. He fired it inside the Principal's office? That's one loud pellet gun!

TKD_Master
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 4827 Posts
Thursday, January 05, 2012 5:35:16 AM
One less dumbass in the world. Maybe the kid shouldnt have brought that to school, maybe he shouldnt have been waving it around like a real weapon, maybe he shouldnt point it at the officers. I say good job lou. Dumbass kid apparently wanted to die.

Marigold1228
Female, 18-29, Southern US
 8 Posts
Thursday, January 05, 2012 5:01:59 AM
I'm really not surprised at the behavior of the TX cops. All I've come in contact with are merciless and have a chip on their shoulder. I don't know what that kid was doing with the fake gun, and I agree that it was stupid, but he's still just a kid. I don't think the police officers reacted well.

Izaq
Male, 30-39, Europe
 175 Posts
Thursday, January 05, 2012 4:59:20 AM
In Denmark no firearms are allowed to anyone except hunting riffles etc. Regulations are very strict. So if a kid holds a gun the police naturally assumes it to be a toy gun, because it always is.

Strange concept of "we need guns to protect ourselves"... from what? Gun accidents? Yeah more firearms equals more safety.

The logic is amazing!

Thetas
Male, 18-29, Western US
 1552 Posts
Thursday, January 05, 2012 3:13:58 AM
@Corpsecrank

If you're going to troll, at least don't be so obvious about it. No one would actually believe what you said.

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