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Romney Caught In a Lie

Hits: 8524 | Rating: (2.8) | Category: News & Politics | Added by: madest
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CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 16682 Posts
Tuesday, January 03, 2012 4:23:43 PM
Gerry: I thought you had more fashion sense than that, perhaps that's just a stereotype though.

Discobiscuit
Male, 18-29, Western US
 543 Posts
Tuesday, January 03, 2012 2:15:39 PM
I really don't like how I can't put the 1-finger cursor icon solely in the middle of youtube's pause button. Always 1-pixel off center. Pisses me off.

patchgrabber
Male, 30-39, Canada
 5683 Posts
Tuesday, January 03, 2012 8:29:20 AM
You're an idealist, I'm a skeptic, You're a dreamer, I'm a realist.


Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man.
-Nietzsche

Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
 33873 Posts
Tuesday, January 03, 2012 7:02:39 AM

Granted, politicians will not give up their money, ever. But they
should be honest about who they really represent. Make them
dress like this . . .



CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 16682 Posts
Monday, January 02, 2012 11:39:33 PM
jtrebowski: all campaigns should be solely publicly financed by the tax-payers with a spending limit.


Not going to work, and I'll tell you why. Most candidates are religious and they mention it in their campaign ads. If the government gets involved in funding campaigns then the atheists will scream about public money promoting religion, then the whole damn thing falls apart over the 1st amendment again.

Also, is the government going to pay for those millions of dollars of TV ads as well ? If not, then how are you going to force the TV stations to air them for free ?

You're an idealist, I'm a skeptic, You're a dreamer, I'm a realist. I was once a lot like you are. I believed it could all be changed into a unified perfect system. Then it kicked me in the head, that making such a system would violate everyone's rights and we'd all be living in tyranny. What was started with good intentions would soon turn into a crushing Orwellian regime.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 16682 Posts
Monday, January 02, 2012 11:19:47 PM
[cont]

So unless you plan on gutting the 1at amendment of the constitution, and revoking your own right to free speech in the process, then you are fighting windmills like Don Quixote.

The only thing we can do is support the truly honest and most forthright politicians that we can, and hope they will do what is right.

I don't condone corruption, I've just realized that it's not controllable, the only partial remedy is reporting on who is giving the money, and how much, to the candidates and educating voters about that funding.

jtrebowski
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 3254 Posts
Monday, January 02, 2012 11:11:44 PM
@CJ: That why all campaigns should be solely publicly financed by the tax-payers with a spending limit. I'm sure you think it's a pipe dream, and it may very well be, but it's the right thing to do.

Draculya
Male, 40-49, Asia
 11460 Posts
Monday, January 02, 2012 10:59:36 PM
Same old, same old. Elect big business elect Romney.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 16682 Posts
Monday, January 02, 2012 10:58:40 PM
jtrebowski: Campaign finance reform is not a new concept


No sh|t Sherlock, and I'M NOT CONDONING IT! DAMN, YOU ARE A HARD HEADED SOB AREN'T YOU ?

I don't care what kind of 'Campaign Finance Reform' bill is drafted, it will be drafted in such a way that there are loopholes.

You may ask why ? I'll tell you why, because the lawmakers in control are not going to cut off their nose to spite their face. For every reform solution that has come along another way around it has as well, it's been going on for 200 years.

Even if you drafted a bill saying the candidates, senators and representatives couldn't take any money at all, Friends, lobbyists, and corporations will form their own groups and campaign for the candidate without any guidance.

There is no way you can stop free speech in that regard, the supreme court has already upheld cases on the subject.

Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
 33873 Posts
Monday, January 02, 2012 9:03:23 PM

@ jtrebowski - The problem with campaign finance reform is that it's been tried several times. Each time Big Corporations spend millions on lobbyists and pvt vacations for Congressmen...excuse me, those are "Fact finding missions in Aruba" for him and his family. My point is, when it's tried the Corps just up the price the politicians get and we get screwed again.

At this point the Corps will not give up their power without a fight. Certainly not because the teaming unwashed masses voted to take their power away. They've busted unions before.

BDT1981
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 132 Posts
Monday, January 02, 2012 8:41:57 PM
Romney is trying t make his campaign sound different. The funny part is that the majority could easily make the same claim. Also, I find it hilarious that Romney can never let anything go. By going to the reporter afterwards, he is only drawing attention to the matter. It also reminds me of the 'you callin' me a liar?' defense that people use when lying

jtrebowski
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 3254 Posts
Monday, January 02, 2012 8:30:40 PM
Oh..and were all those reporters questioning Obamas birth certificate "run out of town"?

jtrebowski
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 3254 Posts
Monday, January 02, 2012 8:29:04 PM
@Gerry: Yeah...I'm sure I'll do the same..lol. @Crakrjak: Yeah, but making observations is one thing...condoning it is another. You've never been shy in showing your disdain for people who have been protesting to get this kind of money out of politics. Campaign finance reform is not a new concept, and the mechanisms to make it a reality are already in existence. We just have to find a way to put them into place. I don't think it's as hard as you guys make it out to be. The main thing that's stopping it is you and other conservatives "it'll never happen" attitude.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 16682 Posts
Monday, January 02, 2012 6:20:11 PM
madest: If a reporter had done this to Obama in 2008, he'd have been called racist and ran out of town.

jtrebowski: I'm not defending Romney or "same ol' same ol' politics", just telling it like it is and always has been.

Go ahead, go on a crusade over it, see how far it gets you. Do you honestly think politicians are going to hamstring themselves from getting campaign money ? Not even "armed conflict" will change that Mr. Robespierre.

Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
 33873 Posts
Monday, January 02, 2012 6:13:15 PM

@ RobSwindol - They ARE paid senior staff members. No, Romney isn't paying them, the corporation that funds the lobbyist is paying them. But they are not doing it for free, they are paid to run that campaign.

Think of it as the cowboy hired to get the beef to market...he rides heard on the candidate and hopes his prize bull wins over the other corporations prize pig.

Do you understand American politics now?


Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
 33873 Posts
Monday, January 02, 2012 6:09:23 PM

@ jtrebowski and @ Corpsecrank

Thank you, thank you. But don't worry, I will say plenty of other
stupid schit in the future, have no fears.

plastinum
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 331 Posts
Monday, January 02, 2012 5:23:44 PM
liar liar pants on fire

RobSwindol
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 2421 Posts
Monday, January 02, 2012 4:59:17 PM
I'm not pulling for Romney, but I don't see how that's a lie.

Every candidate familiarizes with lobbyists, but as long as those lobbyists aren't paid, senior staff members of his campaign, then you really can't say that they are "running his campaign".

Just because someone sits in a meeting doesn't mean that they have any input into said meeting.

I actually think Mitt was correct in this instance and handled himself and the situation well. I have a little more respect for his composure. But I'm still not voting for him.

jtrebowski
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 3254 Posts
Monday, January 02, 2012 4:41:10 PM
CrakrJak is still defending "same ol' same ol'" politics. LOL@ conservatives

mcboozerilla
Male, 30-39, Europe
 649 Posts
Monday, January 02, 2012 4:39:51 PM
Being argumentative with the candidate is "out of line".


jtrebowski
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 3254 Posts
Monday, January 02, 2012 4:39:43 PM
Gerry10f1: "Large corporations spend hundreds of millions of dollars on lobbyists and campaign contributions. In effect they purchase politicians. Campaign Reform was a joke. It is illegal for a politician to accept $30,000 from a lobbyist. But if the lobbyist hosts a "fundraiser dinner" then he can give the politician $30,000 and dinner legal.

Naturally the politicians are representing the ones who pay for their compaigns, not real people. And there is not a damn thing short of armed conflict that will change the situation. If any politician actually tried, the money would dry up and he'd no long be electable.

In short, we have a show-democracy. Yes we vote, but there is debate whether they are counted or not. And in the end, money determines the winner really."
----------------OMG..you're becoming a Liberal. Welcome to the OWS movement. You are officially pardoned for al the dumb stuff you've said in the past. Meanwhile, Crak

robosnitz
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 2752 Posts
Monday, January 02, 2012 4:26:20 PM
Wonder if Mitt punched one of his cronys in the face when he jumped in his limo and drove away,out of anger and frustration?

Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
 33873 Posts
Monday, January 02, 2012 4:10:41 PM

Here's an explaination of how to purchase a politician.
Yes, Colbert gives it a humerous slant, but it's still true.

Anonymous Shell Corporation

randomxnp
Male, 30-39, Europe
 1162 Posts
Monday, January 02, 2012 3:45:48 PM
That would be one of the same AP reporters who completely ignore Barrack Obama telling basically the same lie. Hypocrite.

Corpsecrank
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 875 Posts
Monday, January 02, 2012 3:32:29 PM
@ Gerry1of1 Ok I have to admit that comment pretty much makes up for all the crap you say on here in one shot.

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