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The Iraq War Is Ovah!

Hits: 11748 | Rating: (2.3) | Category: News & Politics | Added by: fancylad
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Cajun247
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 10232 Posts
Saturday, December 17, 2011 6:12:10 AM
@OldOllie

We didn't have a debate. All I did was respond to some grumpy 50-something who apparantly decided to act like his shoe size by painting everyone else as liars, idiots, and terrorist sympathizers. If that's the way you prefer to debate then I have some advice for you, courtesy of Jon Stewart.

davymid
Male, 30-39, Europe
 12071 Posts
Saturday, December 17, 2011 1:48:46 AM
davymid: Glad to know that you supported Saddam Hussein's brutal dictatorship rather than freedom and democracy.

Bullwank and f*ck you. Not what I said. When the US invades every place that has a brutal dictatorship, I'll concede. But you won't support the invasion of Zimbabwe, or North Korea, or China, or numerous other states, becuase you're afraid of the consequences. Iraq was an easy target. Easily bullied.

Still, I await the discovery of those WMDs in Iraq, which most of will not forget was the justification for the war in first place. After what they did to us in 9-11, those Iraqi terrorist Al-Quaeda supporting bastards.

Right?

TheShgn2
Male, 13-17, Southern US
 631 Posts
Friday, December 16, 2011 11:26:32 PM
We're still in Afghanistan, so this is irrelevant?

OldOllie
Male, 60-69, Midwest US
 13863 Posts
Friday, December 16, 2011 8:20:01 PM
I also see no merit in answering your loaded questions.

What I see is someone who just lost the argument but doesn't have the intellectual honesty to admit it.

AGit
Male, 30-39, Europe
 941 Posts
Friday, December 16, 2011 5:21:04 PM
"You seem to think that we should wait until AFTER a terrorist attack before we defend ourselves."

I know, I know, it seems like lately I only pop up uninvited to pick on Oldie, but you have to admit that he asks for it sometimes...
I see no reason why that sentence couldn't be aplied to "them". "They" shouldn't have to wait for an attack either. Congratulations, you've justified 9/11, amongst other things. Neat.


Cajun247
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 10232 Posts
Friday, December 16, 2011 4:15:58 PM
As for your comment about the threat tobyvictory addressed it soundly. I also see no merit in answering your loaded questions.

Cajun247
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 10232 Posts
Friday, December 16, 2011 4:11:27 PM
So, Cajun, what would you have done differently if you HAD supported said dictatorship?




Say dear comrade care for a bite?

InTheNameOf
Male, 30-39, Western US
 335 Posts
Friday, December 16, 2011 1:42:58 PM
It's over for us, but probably far from over for them.

Fatninja01
Male, 18-29, Australia
 24505 Posts
Friday, December 16, 2011 12:57:19 PM
ok... well lets hope we dont need to go back!

tobyvictory
Male, 70 & Over, Asia
 412 Posts
Friday, December 16, 2011 12:08:10 PM
OldOllie, you're an old gas bag. Your arguments are too simple, like your mind. First, Afghanistan became a threat soon as the Taliban openly admitted they were harboring Bin Laden. The US even gave them an opportunity to turn him over before the bombs began to fall.


As for Iraq, Saddam was NEVER, I repeat, NEVER a threat to the US. He was too smart a man to ever get involved with the US after the Gulf War. After unsuccessfully attempting to course Saddam into a war the GW Bush administration simply lied to get everyone else on board with their secret plan to "get" Saddam for putting a hit out on GHW Bush during or shortly after the Gulf war.


If you believe anything else, you're just a simple sheep who's been left in the pasture.

OldOllie
Male, 60-69, Midwest US
 13863 Posts
Friday, December 16, 2011 11:30:15 AM
Just because someone didn't support the war against said dictatorship does NOT mean they supported said dictatorship.

So, Cajun, what would you have done differently if you HAD supported said dictatorship?

OldOllie
Male, 60-69, Midwest US
 13863 Posts
Friday, December 16, 2011 11:28:21 AM
"So, Cajun, when did the threat from Afghanistan become imminent?"

"I thought this was a discussion about IRAQ."


No, it was about liberal stupidity. You said Iraq wasn't a threat. My question to you is, at what point in time before 9/11/2001 did Afghanistan become a threat? You seem to think that we should wait until AFTER a terrorist attack before we defend ourselves.

If I tell you over and over again that I want to kill you, will you give me one free shot at close range before you do anything to stop me?

patchgrabber
Male, 30-39, Canada
 5703 Posts
Friday, December 16, 2011 9:07:32 AM
@AJ: tl;dr? Seriously? Here's a tip: CTRL+F then type "mission" (without the quotes) was that so hard?

@Crakrjak: All possibly valid points against Rumsfeld. Too bad it's just another one of your classic red herrings. He admitted in a DoD press release that "Mission Accomplished" WAS a part of the speech. Do you have proof otherwise other than to spout your opinion that he's lying or whatever?

Cajun247
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 10232 Posts
Friday, December 16, 2011 8:35:17 AM
Yes label all of these conservatives as "5h17-eating Saddam sympathizers".

Cajun247
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 10232 Posts
Friday, December 16, 2011 8:20:11 AM
This is a formal invitation for Iran to invade Iraq like they did in the 80's



The hawks should've thought about that before they made their case.

Cajun247
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 10232 Posts
Friday, December 16, 2011 8:05:45 AM
Glad to know that you supported Saddam Hussein's brutal dictatorship rather than freedom and democracy.


Ad Hominem
Just because someone didn't support the war against said dictatorship does NOT mean they supported said dictatorship.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 16941 Posts
Friday, December 16, 2011 7:56:34 AM
davymid: Glad to know that you supported Saddam Hussein's brutal dictatorship rather than freedom and democracy.

Musuko: The 'something' I was mentioning was the Iraq war, don't be obtuse.

patchgrabber: Rumsfeld is a known braggard and I believe his decisions on Iraq caused us to be there much longer than we needed to. The biggest mistake Rumsfeld made, was to disband what was left of the Iraqi army. Those ex-soldiers instantly joined the resistance, tripling the problem.

auburnjunky
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 10050 Posts
Friday, December 16, 2011 7:36:43 AM
@Patchgrabber: tl;dr. Point me in the right direction.

McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 13285 Posts
Friday, December 16, 2011 7:26:04 AM
Ovah?????? When did Fancy move to Mass??

patchgrabber
Male, 30-39, Canada
 5703 Posts
Friday, December 16, 2011 7:24:25 AM
They have reported on Fox the very thing that 5cats said


Well I assumed 5cats was being forthcoming, but if what you say is true then that was not the case. Thanks for calling 5cats out on his dishonesty, AJ!

robosnitz
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 2752 Posts
Friday, December 16, 2011 7:07:33 AM
Yep, they're preparing for war within the United States.

patchgrabber
Male, 30-39, Canada
 5703 Posts
Friday, December 16, 2011 7:02:46 AM
[quote">Who told you that, Rumsfeld? [/quote">

Actually, yes; he told everyone.

auburnjunky
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 10050 Posts
Friday, December 16, 2011 6:53:48 AM
"Bush's speech had references to "Mission Accomplished" until Rumsfeld edited it, they just forgot about the banner."

Who told you that, Rumsfeld?

"You DO realize that Fox News has had the majority of the ratings for quite a while now, right? Blame your rightie news organization for dropping the ball then."

They have reported on Fox the very thing that 5cats said. Also, just because it wins in ratings, does not mean it's mainstream. It is an alternative view that is popular with the people.

sosueme1966
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 420 Posts
Friday, December 16, 2011 6:35:25 AM
Thank God for election years. He may have done it too soon, though. Because there's a good chance that Iraq's hand selected tin-pot president and his keystone cop army will lose control of the country to Islamic fundamentalists by November, then Iraq becomes nothing but another Vietnam. BTW- nice job by whoever wrote the caption of not mentioning the 500,000 Iraqi civilians killed in the war. That's why everyone loves us.

patchgrabber
Male, 30-39, Canada
 5703 Posts
Friday, December 16, 2011 6:34:53 AM
but the MSM would NEVER admit that.


You DO realize that Fox News has had the majority of the ratings for quite a while now, right? Blame your rightie news organization for dropping the ball then.

It was put there by the captain of the USS Abraham Lincoln to honor his crew for accomplishing THEIR mission.


White House said it was at the request of the Navy, but they're the ones that hung it up. Also the original form of Bush's speech had references to "Mission Accomplished" until Rumsfeld edited it, they just forgot about the banner.

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