 kangoala
Male, 18-29, Australia
 632 Posts
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Saturday, March 10, 2012 1:04:48 PM
Am I the only one that found the underlying message in this video pretty awesomely demonstrated? |
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 chet913
Male, 13-17, Eastern US
48 Posts
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Sunday, December 04, 2011 8:04:20 PM
how about people stop bitching about animal testing (peta) and go and volunteer themselves for testing. this would spare the animals any harm, oh wait they wouldnt do that it would hurt them. soooo if they wont volunteer themselves in place of animals then they really dont care as much as they pretend to.
anyway monkeys are awesome and therefore need to be inhumanly tested on because its funny and science. |
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 GasMaskKid
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
694 Posts
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Saturday, December 03, 2011 1:25:32 PM
"Whenever I hear criticism of animal testing, I think of this guy & what he did."
Yeah, at least animal testing wasn't as bad as the Holocaust. |
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 5Cats
Male, 40-49, Canada
17458 Posts
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Saturday, December 03, 2011 9:02:22 AM
Yes @intrigid, but I'm saying to get "better" science would be worse, you follow?
This is the best we can get, so use it. Don't b1tch & moan that it's not good enough. |
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intrigid
Male, 18-29, Canada
894 Posts
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Friday, December 02, 2011 6:51:11 PM
@5Cats
You don't understand. He's saying the science is poor, not immoral. |
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5Cats
Male, 40-49, Canada
17458 Posts
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Friday, December 02, 2011 5:32:46 PM
"Science, you're doing it wrong."
You'd prefer experiments on humans?
srsly
PS: I am not intending to insult anyone, I'm pointing out how well the last time human experimentation went, m-kay? Whenever I hear criticism of animal testing, I think of this guy & what he did. |
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scallywagger
Male, 18-29, Canada
13 Posts
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Friday, December 02, 2011 2:01:20 PM
I like how the monkey had a southern accent. nice touch |
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 patchgrabber
Male, 30-39, Canada
5329 Posts
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Friday, December 02, 2011 11:34:37 AM
the experiment conducted can lead to inferential knowledge about why humans behave
Science, you're doing it wrong. |
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5Cats
Male, 40-49, Canada
17458 Posts
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Friday, December 02, 2011 10:26:56 AM
vv Well it's true @patchy! This is a Skinner Box, the experiment conducted can lead to inferential knowledge about why humans behave. Plain as day, eh? |
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 gary8162
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
669 Posts
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Friday, December 02, 2011 8:04:47 AM
This has already been done on humans. It's called prison. |
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patchgrabber
Male, 30-39, Canada
5329 Posts
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Friday, December 02, 2011 7:54:42 AM
And some IABers said "Skinner Boxes" weren't science...
Obvious instigation comment is obvious. |
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 Draculya
Male, 30-39, Asia
6686 Posts
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Friday, December 02, 2011 7:51:56 AM
@InTheNameOf except that at one time, there really was a cold shower. |
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 LazyMe484
Male, 18-29, Canada
10503 Posts
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Thursday, December 01, 2011 8:24:27 PM
I love it. This is brilliant.
But to go so far as to say we, as humans, can learn something from it may be pushing it. We have better communication for instance.
except of course...
Ah, so thats the reason people believe in god.
Interesting! I'ma ponder this one s'more. |
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5Cats
Male, 40-49, Canada
17458 Posts
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Thursday, December 01, 2011 8:11:48 PM
Yup, that's the real reason for a LOT of human behaviours!
And some IABers said "Skinner Boxes" weren't science... |
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 SarahofBorg
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
3547 Posts
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Thursday, December 01, 2011 7:43:49 PM
I doubt this test. From what I know of monkeys, they don't have a strong cultural learning. They only mimic what others do if there's a reason to. They don't just do things because it's what they learned, because monkeys don't actually teach each other, they just copy each other. In fact, a monkey is more likely to not do something obviously pointless it was told to do than a human is. |
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Draculya
Male, 30-39, Asia
6686 Posts
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Thursday, December 01, 2011 7:21:19 PM
It's a parable about book religions and conventional 'morality'. |
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 LandoGriffin
Male, 30-39, Western US
4336 Posts
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Thursday, December 01, 2011 5:12:10 PM
Yeah, it is called observational learning, and is the same thing that allows us to communicate with language. Why is that animal called a "dog" - I don't know, that's just what we call it, as we have for centuries. The answer was that monkeys in the past discovered that climbing the ladder harms the group, and the new monkeys learned to prevent ladder climbing without experiencing the harm for themselves.
You know not to shoot yourself with a gun, even though you've never been actually shot, because you've heard stories about people getting shot, you know it makes them die or at least hurt really bad, and you catch on quickly. The monkeys catch on that climbing the ladder might hurt the group. |
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 InTheNameOf
Male, 30-39, Western US
331 Posts
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Thursday, December 01, 2011 4:05:05 PM
Ah, so thats the reason people believe in god. I always wondered about that. |
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 TKD_Master
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
4827 Posts
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Thursday, December 01, 2011 3:52:52 PM
"If you asked one of the monkeys why the beatings took place, the answer would probably be..."
Ooh Ah Ah!
I think I'm more correct than the video. |
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 tsiemens
Male, 30-39, Canada
438 Posts
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Thursday, December 01, 2011 3:30:05 PM
Why should people continue to accept that half their earnings are stolen by the gov't? Same answer as the monkey, wake up. |
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 Gottamgear
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
358 Posts
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Thursday, December 01, 2011 2:58:27 PM
@Intaresting so is your avatar. Old and overdone, so whats your point trollface? Problem? |
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 Intaresting
Male, 18-29, Europe
812 Posts
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Thursday, December 01, 2011 2:52:30 PM
This story is so old... |
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 RyanHake
Male, 18-29, Southern US
2698 Posts
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Thursday, December 01, 2011 2:39:20 PM
Was just talking about this the other day haha |
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 robosnitz
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
2752 Posts
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Thursday, December 01, 2011 2:26:49 PM
AND,..........????? |
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 SpoonFork
Male, 30-39, Western US
1280 Posts
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Thursday, December 01, 2011 1:40:59 PM
Those that don't remember the past are doomed to repeat it. Unless, of course, there's an entity that controls things like in the vid. Which leaves me confused as to what the message was. |
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