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Draculya Male, 30-39, Asia
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Saturday, November 26, 2011 6:21:33 AM >How should homosexuals treat Christians? Maybe we all should treat each other as we would like to be treated? Wait.... isn't that? You mean homosexuals should butt rape the god-squad? |
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iceblack Male, 18-29, S. America
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Wednesday, November 23, 2011 11:36:34 PM @davymid lol! Man, that's a good one! |
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OutWest Male, 50-59, Western US
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Wednesday, November 23, 2011 10:28:00 PM So.... Since the title of this involves how Christians should behave, the inverse would be: How should homosexuals treat Christians? Maybe we all should treat each other as we would like to be treated? Wait.... isn't that? |
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davymid Male, 30-39, Europe
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Wednesday, November 23, 2011 9:22:17 PM The last thing that allows you into heaven, according to the Bible, is God's mercy. That means that no matter how good, or how bad you are while here on Earth, when you face God, he decides. He's more likely to have mercy on you if you're good, but if at the last minute, Charles Manson realized his sins, honestly, and begged God for forgiveness, and accepted Jesus Christ, he'd be able to get into heaven, if he had God's mercy. It also means that Mother Theresa might have faced God, and not received his mercy, and gone to hell. Or, as Emo Philips put it: "When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bicycle. Then I realised that the Lord doesn't work that way so I stole one and asked Him to forgive me." |
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Brassbull Male, 30-39, Southern US
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Wednesday, November 23, 2011 8:13:32 PM Someone should send this video to the WBC.
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mithraela Female, 18-29, Western US
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Wednesday, November 23, 2011 8:09:31 PM I like this Christian... being of the gayish persuasion i happen to despise Christians quite a bit because they seem to be a bit ignorant of their own principles. I like that this one seems to have a broad acceptance of the tenets of his religion in a way that he can teach people to be tolerant and civil, perhaps even kind. Yes the bible is contradictory. Yes, in many places it is inflammatory against different types of people. But if read the way it was "intended" the purpose is to make the people "more" peaceable and acceptant of each other. It's too bad so few actually do it. There will always be christians... at least for awhile.. and they will be here in many forms, so there is no point thinking we are going to change the world with logic. But out there in the "real world" where exists many paradigms, This guy is the sort i want on "the apposing team." |
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Draculya Male, 30-39, Asia
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Wednesday, November 23, 2011 7:49:03 PM >>Ok so homosexuality is a sin but if you accept god it's ok to sin so it's all good.. >Not true, the bible calls for something called repentance or turning away from your sins to be saved. The point of the video is: (1) All people are sinners according to the bible. Whether they repent or not, they continuously sin. (2) Christians should treat all people, both sinners and faithful alike, with respect and love. (3) Sinners may enter heaven if they repent before their passing. Ergo, unrepentant homosexuals will not be saved, but true Christians should treat them with love and respect and not go all WBC on their asses. Of course, it's all bull. There is no god and no judgement. we should treat everyone with love and respect because it is the right thing to do. |
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yagovaggo Male, 30-39, Eastern US
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Wednesday, November 23, 2011 7:12:27 PM If I was there in that room with them I would have raised my hand and when called upon I would have stood up and said, very loudly, "SHUT THE F U C K UP!!! |
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markust123 Male, 40-49, Western US
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Wednesday, November 23, 2011 5:31:03 PM Just in time for Thanksgiving Maggie Gallagher from NOM (National Organization for Marriage) has a new video that shows bigoted Christian's how to spout hate to their gay relatives all the while positioning themselves as the victim not the gay person they are attacking. Love the new lesbian haircut Maggie. |
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markust123 Male, 40-49, Western US
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Wednesday, November 23, 2011 5:08:37 PM There are many errors in the bible. For instance in the beginning god created animals then man. But in the very next chapter god created man then the animals. That is a massive editorial error. I am convinced that calling homosexuality a sin is also a biblical error. Because I was born gay. God made me this way so there's no way something I have absolutely no control over is a sin. And don't tell me that acting on it is the sin. Try not to ever act on your heterosexuality you hypocrite. |
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iceblack Male, 18-29, S. America
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Wednesday, November 23, 2011 4:02:20 PM @EthanCoker You can impose beliefs, not directly, but due to intense and perpetual brain-washing (Or preaching, as religious groups nicely call it). In any case, homosexual marriage issues and abortion are often denied by religious because of the bible, and that's just wrong. If you don't want to get married to another man, then don't, but don't go out and call other people sinners or bad people just because they do want to |
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EthanCoker Male, 18-29, Southern US
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Wednesday, November 23, 2011 3:37:34 PM I absolutely agree. Imposing is forcing someone to do something, though. Imposing a belief is an oxymoron. Perhaps what your against is their imposition of their own morals on your life, which I also oppose, because it doesn't make sense. But to try to convince someone of something is different than to tell them they have to believe it. |
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robosnitz Male, 40-49, Eastern US
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Wednesday, November 23, 2011 2:32:17 PM Butt pirates. AAAARGG!!!! |
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Buiadh Male, 18-29, Europe
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Wednesday, November 23, 2011 2:18:24 PM Bible still sucks rooster. |
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iceblack Male, 18-29, S. America
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Wednesday, November 23, 2011 2:08:48 PM @EthanCoker There's a difference between "Sharing" (What you said) and "Imposing" (What I said), learn the difference and then say something. |
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EthanCoker Male, 18-29, Southern US
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Wednesday, November 23, 2011 2:03:42 PM It's rather ironic that Jesus taught that the whole of the law is summed up in "Love God, and love others" essentially, and yet there's either a lot or several loud Christians who neglect that part, because it's easier to focus on the outward works. You will never be more motivated to do things right than when it affects those you love. Being a husband or a father changes the way a man acts, same with a wife and mother for women. This guy's view is absolutely right. I, as a Christian, can't stand it when Christians display hate for anyone, because they're a)doing things just as bad as any sin, and b)never going to change someone's mind that way. Telling someone they're wrong will never make them love God. Period. That's not the way people work. Sin is just missing the chance to love God and others. @iceblack, I understand your desire to stay free from other's beliefs, but you wouldn't be on this site unless you liked it when people shared things they liked with you. |
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tsiemens Male, 30-39, Canada
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Wednesday, November 23, 2011 1:19:22 PM Ok so homosexuality is a sin but if you accept god it's ok to sin so it's all good.. Not true, the bible calls for something called repentance or turning away from your sins to be saved. It does not mean you will never sin, but it means you must actively try NOT to sin and you will grow to detest sin as you become more christ-like. An example would be stealing a man's car, saying you are sorry for stealing it, but you then keep the car anyway, therefore zero repentance. |
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iceblack Male, 18-29, S. America
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Wednesday, November 23, 2011 1:12:55 PM What a double-faced, double standard's son of a B... The bible is STILL stupid, is STILL the work of MEN and I will never take it seriously, nor I will accept any religion to impose their beliefs to other people, it's not about how nice or "tolerant" god or the church is, it should not have a single say in other people's lives, simple as that |
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bliznik Male, 30-39, Western US
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Wednesday, November 23, 2011 12:44:09 PM "We'll continue to argue the point as long as the Christians who believe this man incorrect make up a large proportion of the Christian population." Sometimes I wonder if it's the largest percent or the loudest percent. Most of my Christian friends are more like Tim Keller than like Fred Phelps, but that could just be a product of living so close to a big city. |
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markust123 Male, 40-49, Western US
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Wednesday, November 23, 2011 12:42:32 PM I can't speak for any gays other than myself but I don't hate religious people. My aunt is religious and is one of my most favorite people in the world. I worked with a friend who prayed before we went out on a job. She was so cool. That was 7 years ago and she was at my house last week. My best friends parents are very religious. I just adore them. It is the extremes that bother me. The ones that have to publicly spout hate. It is one thing to personally believe homosexuality is an abomination but once you speak the words publicly you become a bigot because you are hurting people with your words. Those are the people I am intolerant of. |
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markust123 Male, 40-49, Western US
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Wednesday, November 23, 2011 12:34:46 PM And I read the comments anyway. I was quite relived to see that the conversation is civil. I appreciated your comment CrakrJak. I've seen a growth in you that is really awesome. |
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markust123 Male, 40-49, Western US
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Wednesday, November 23, 2011 12:27:54 PM I'm not sure I want to read the comments. This was so wonderful. I don't want it ruined by a few of the people that spout religious bigotry. And yes I am being intolerant. But I will not tolerate bigotry and hatred disguised as religion. |
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Tekinette Male, 18-29, Europe
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Wednesday, November 23, 2011 12:15:32 PM Ok so homosexuality is a sin but if you accept god it's ok to sin so it's all good.. |
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madduck Female, 40-49, Europe
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Wednesday, November 23, 2011 12:01:44 PM How refreshing to hear a sane normal christian explaining things. I may not share this mans faith, but I wish more people thought as he does and were kind in their dealings with others. |
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skine Male, 18-29, Eastern US
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Wednesday, November 23, 2011 11:51:58 AM Well, that was basically my point. We'll continue to argue the point as long as the Christians who believe this man incorrect make up a large proportion of the Christian population. |
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