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Canada: I Like The Way You Think Politically [Pic]

Hits: 15806 | Rating: (3.0) | Category: News & Politics | Added by: littlemissqt
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Female, 18-29, Western US
 314 Posts
Wednesday, November 23, 2011 7:39:39 PM
Hurr durr I have a moral opposition to voting but I'll complain about everything elected officials do. Not talking about anyone who's said that there, just the genuine retards that won't shut the drat up.

Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 2752 Posts
Tuesday, November 22, 2011 9:10:39 AM
I agree with Iceblacks statement from George Carlin. I've never voted, ever. Not even registered. I'm not voting for any of these nitwits.

Male, 18-29, Canada
 830 Posts
Tuesday, November 22, 2011 5:26:40 AM
iceblack, never one with an original thought are you?

Female, 18-29, Midwest US
 29 Posts
Monday, November 21, 2011 8:38:40 PM
oh, people will never see eye to eye. there is no perfect solution to the mess.

Female, 50-59, Canada
 6406 Posts
Monday, November 21, 2011 8:13:49 PM
Uh... somehow, I don't think that's an official city elections poster.

Male, 18-29, S. America
 15499 Posts
Monday, November 21, 2011 7:30:51 PM
Thank you for the abstract about the constitution

Male, 18-29, S. America
 546 Posts
Monday, November 21, 2011 7:01:26 PM
I'll just quote George Carlin here:

" I firmly believe that if you vote, you have no right to complain. Now, some people like to twist that around. They say, 'If you don't vote, you have no right to complain,' but where's the logic in that? If you vote, and you elect dishonest, incompetent politicians, and they get into office and screw everything up, you are responsible for what they have done. You voted them in. You caused the problem. You have no right to complain. I, on the other hand, who did not vote -- who did not even leave the house on Election Day -- am in no way responsible for that these politicians have done and have every right to complain about the mess that you created."

Male, 30-39, Europe
 6653 Posts
Monday, November 21, 2011 5:41:58 PM

Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 935 Posts
Monday, November 21, 2011 5:35:02 PM
...unless you don't agree with any of the candidates.

Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 503 Posts
Monday, November 21, 2011 5:30:45 PM
I like the tenacity!

Male, 18-29, Canada
 194 Posts
Monday, November 21, 2011 5:27:44 PM
Also, I don't know how to do italics.

Male, 18-29, Canada
 194 Posts
Monday, November 21, 2011 5:27:32 PM

No contradiction, just a failure on my part to elaborate. Should you be legally required to vote in order to complain: no. If you fail to vote should you be forced to keep your opinion to yourself: no. If you don't vote and then complain about it, does that make you a douche: yes. If you don't vote should you keep your opinions to yourself because you're a lazy apathetic schmuck: yes.

I'm making a distinction between [i]should[/i] and [i]should be allowed[/i]. It's a minor difference, but an important one. Kind of like the difference between a political freedom (i.e. freedom of assembly) and a political right (i.e. right to legal counsel).

I think you should be [i]allowed[/i] to complain if you don't vote. I just think that you [i]shouldn't[/i].

Male, 40-49, Canada
 1815 Posts
Monday, November 21, 2011 4:40:51 PM
win !

Male, 18-29, Western US
 595 Posts
Monday, November 21, 2011 4:31:53 PM
i believe it was George Carlin that said its the people that vote that have no right to complain, since they are the ones that voted for the person. He doesnt vote and that reserves his right to say whatever he wants, instead of being held to what he put into office in the first place.

Male, 40-49, Europe
 12390 Posts
Monday, November 21, 2011 3:02:00 PM

I didn't say that voting never made any difference, so your example of a few close elections is irrelevant.

You went on to contradict yourself:

I completely agree that mandating that people who don't participate aren't allowed to complain does take things a bit far. [..]

Also, as far as I'm concerned, if you choose not to participate in the system, regardless of your rights, you have no business complaining that things aren't the way you like it.

Male, 50-59, Western US
 34654 Posts
Monday, November 21, 2011 2:08:21 PM

I used to believe this very sentiment.
But after recent elections, where counting or our ability to count votes, {and the honesty of the election process has been called into play} I no longer believe it so strongly. "Vote if you feel like it" is more apt.

I will vote, I'm just a stickler for tradition.
But I can't guarantee it's actually counted.

Female, 18-29, Canada
 20 Posts
Monday, November 21, 2011 1:59:12 PM
That's how we do it.

Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 14177 Posts
Monday, November 21, 2011 1:30:26 PM
Ummm people say this here all the time.

Male, 30-39, Canada
 5753 Posts
Monday, November 21, 2011 1:03:56 PM
I'd say we're a constitutional monarchy AND a parliamentary democracy.

Male, 18-29, Canada
 529 Posts
Monday, November 21, 2011 12:43:08 PM
5Cats, aren't we a parliamentary democracy as opposed to the USA which is a constitutional republic?

We have a Charter of Rights and Freedoms, but Section 1 says that the majority can vote them away if they feel like it. The United States government doesn't have the power to vote away rights, but the Canadian government does. I'd say the majority has more power in Canada, personally.

Male, 30-39, Canada
 5753 Posts
Monday, November 21, 2011 12:34:51 PM
If you pay taxes then you absolutely have a say, since whatever officials are elected are funded by, and appropriate the funds each taxpayer contributes to. I think if you don't vote the only thing you can't bitch about is which party did/didn't get in.

However, voter apathy is a problem and I think that if you are unhappy you should just spoil your ballot and be done with it.

Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 27 Posts
Monday, November 21, 2011 12:27:59 PM
As long as popular vote doesn't determine the presidential election in the United State I will take no part in it.

Male, 30-39, Canada
 712 Posts
Monday, November 21, 2011 12:17:58 PM
God 5Cats-STFU and move to the States already

Male, 18-29, Europe
 1224 Posts
Monday, November 21, 2011 11:50:31 AM
Yeah, of course, because the party you voted for always keeps their promises and does a fantastic job. You vote in the party you want to win, which in reality isn't any different to any other party, and they still lie and cheat their way through their time of power.

Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 586 Posts
Monday, November 21, 2011 11:49:58 AM
well said

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