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 madest
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
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Friday, November 11, 2011 3:16:30 PM
Don't forget Gary Johnson. |
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 markust123
Male, 40-49, Western US
3783 Posts
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Friday, November 11, 2011 12:17:48 PM
I really feel for the fiscal conservatives. The religious right has taken over the Republican party and turned it into a joke. Just look at this ridiculous list of candidates. Only John Huntsman has the intellect to be President and he is being ignored. The rest are an embarrassment to the institution.
On a side note the spell checker showed me that I had spelled intellect wrong.That's funny. |
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markust123
Male, 40-49, Western US
3783 Posts
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Friday, November 11, 2011 11:55:39 AM
"However Obama is jokingly known as President teleprompter all over the world."
This lie is going to come back to haunt conservatives. In reality President Obama does exceptionally well without notes or a teleprompter. He is calm, cool and articulate during debates. Obama was good before but now he has the Presidential experience. He is going to rock! I can't wait for him to mop the floor with Romney. |
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 QueenZira
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
1797 Posts
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Friday, November 11, 2011 8:39:59 AM
An intercepted Repub memo:
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 Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
26235 Posts
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Friday, November 11, 2011 7:55:53 AM
America needs another rip-snortin', gun toten', Texan in the White House.
He even has his own hunting ranch. That's standard equipment for republican candidates.
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 CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
14458 Posts
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Friday, November 11, 2011 4:37:10 AM
davymid: I did not say, "You said anyone would stumble on their words in front of millions..."
However Obama is jokingly known as President teleprompter all over the world.
Perry, at least, has a good track record of growth in jobs and business in Texas, Obama had nothing but barely 2 years as a senator and some community organizing. |
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 sariel
Male, 18-29, Australia
77 Posts
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Friday, November 11, 2011 3:20:10 AM
The response to this incident highlights, to me, one of the central problems with democracy. Guess what, the guys human, and humans forget things. Especially under the immense pressure they're all under. Is anyone genuinely shocked about this? Surprised? I don't understand the reaction. We're all saying he's lost what ever chance he had, but why? Because he suffered mental block? Does no-one take into account his policies, attitudes, opinions or how good a leader he would be? Don't you see these things are becoming irrelevant if we promote this idea that all candidates have to do is look nice and speak well? Modern society is an idiot. |
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 Draculya
Male, 30-39, Asia
6654 Posts
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Thursday, November 10, 2011 11:43:19 PM
Forget Retard Ricky here. Too many remember GW Buffon and remember that under his clownlike demeanour was a spendthrift warmonger that dragged the world into war and ruin.
Forget Token the pizza boy. Nobody thinks that he stands a chance against Bazza.
I could respect Ronny, but he's about the only one of the candidates that doesn't sound like a craved housewife or a drunken halfwit and let's face it, he'll never survive the early rounds because he's too sensible.
Obama bin Laden looks set to rule for another term. I think that's sad. Your nation and the world deserves strong US leadership, new ideas, no baggage ... and supportive upper and lower houses. |
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QueenZira
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
1797 Posts
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Thursday, November 10, 2011 10:00:51 PM
Davy, you forgot Rick Santorum, a religious conservative in the mold of Bachmann who was thrown out of his Penn. senate seat a few years back and the guy who managed to get himself a new title as well, He Who Must Not Be Googled.  |
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chet913
Male, 13-17, Eastern US
48 Posts
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Thursday, November 10, 2011 9:51:46 PM
lost the election....... oops
personally i think this was pretty funny and he has almost a bush type feel to him (he is from texas too) but anyways who really cares |
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 davymid
Male, 30-39, Europe
11693 Posts
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Thursday, November 10, 2011 9:50:52 PM
4. Paul, a maverick moonbat, who is always going to be a non-runner, as his ideas are too radical and will never win an election against the mainstream (read: rational people).
5. Cain, a religious conservative, who wants a flat 9-9-9 tax on all sections of society (against every functioning western society in the Western World, which has a graded tax). Ignoring for now the allegations, he's a pizza magnate, who if elected President of the US, will be the first election he has ever faced (never mind won).
Sorry to say, if this Motley Crew is the best the Republicans can put up against Obama, then we're going to see Barry in office for another four years. And maybe a Dem President in office for much longer than that unless the Repubs get their sh*t together next time around. People are getting smarter, it's how societies evolve. And unfortunately for the Conservatives, every single one of those people has a vote... |
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davymid
Male, 30-39, Europe
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Thursday, November 10, 2011 9:50:39 PM
As I've gotten older, wiser, and more mature, I've tried to move away from partisan politics one way or the other. I've genuinely tried to remove myself from the ideas of "left" and "right" politics and tried to be impartial. Some of you who follow these threads on IAB will note that I have deliberately stayed out of such debates for months now (while following them as a reader).
Yet I can't get past the fact that, from the Republican Presidential candidates to oppose Obama, I see:
1. Perry, a religious conservative who appears possibly drunk and often stupid, even inarticulate.
2. Romney, a religious conservative who wears magic underwear to protect him from evil.
3. Bachman, a demented religious conservative who's a homophobic young-earth creationist, who's husband appears very gay while running a "Pray-the-Gay-Away" clinic for the mentally unbalanced. |
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davymid
Male, 30-39, Europe
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Thursday, November 10, 2011 9:32:51 PM
Obama prefers town hall speeches to debates, and gaffes are gaffes, doesn't matter if it's in a debate or not.
There's mis-speaking, and then there's making a fool of yourself in a televised debate watched by millions... This was the headline story all over the British BBC news today, and I presume other countries around the world.
Besides, Crakrjak, you dodged (as usual) answering Markust's challenge: "You said anyone would stumble on their words in front of millions so a clip of Obama stumbling in a debate should be easy to find... Show the debate video clip of him stumbling then Crakr. If this happens I'm sure there are clips from debates. But we're talking debates here don't show a speech or a press conference. "
Please do so. |
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QueenZira
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
1797 Posts
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Thursday, November 10, 2011 9:29:31 PM
Boys, boys, boys, the real triumph for Repubs here was that Perry managed to remain upright and not drool. That's quite an accomplishment for them this year. Can we at lest agree on that?  |
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 Rawrg
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
935 Posts
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Thursday, November 10, 2011 9:23:22 PM
American politics are the best politics. |
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 ledzeppeloyd
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
2194 Posts
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Thursday, November 10, 2011 9:04:33 PM
durrr uh cut education |
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 LazyMe484
Male, 18-29, Canada
10503 Posts
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Thursday, November 10, 2011 9:04:07 PM
His only downside is that he's incredibly religious, so just that might make me vote for Paul over him.
Who is also religious. There is no one there you could vote for. |
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LazyMe484
Male, 18-29, Canada
10503 Posts
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Thursday, November 10, 2011 9:00:58 PM
This is not about minor blunders here or there. You do not go to a debate unprepared. You do not run for president if you aren't aware of your own strategy. Finally, if you've already made the first two mistakes, which would make you a moron by themselves, you do not start making an argument you have not thought through. Never mind the point you are trying to make...
Silly republicans. |
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CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
14458 Posts
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Thursday, November 10, 2011 7:19:22 PM
markust: Obama prefers town hall speeches to debates, and gaffes are gaffes, doesn't matter if it's in a debate or not.
So I submit this for some proof of Obama's ineptitude. Link |
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markust123
Male, 40-49, Western US
3783 Posts
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Thursday, November 10, 2011 6:28:39 PM
If you want an idea how bad the Republican Presidential candidate is going to get his ass handed to him check out this video. This is President Obama answering questions at the Republican retreat in 2010. Fast forward to any question and answer. President Obama destroys every talking point and lie the Republican's throw at him. He made the Republican's look so foolish they said later that it was a mistake to allow cameras in. |
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markust123
Male, 40-49, Western US
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Thursday, November 10, 2011 6:02:13 PM
Show the debate video clip of him stumbling then Crakr. If this happens I'm sure there are clips from debates. But we're talking debates here don't show a speech or a press conference. |
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CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
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Thursday, November 10, 2011 5:56:10 PM
markust: Obame has been caught stumbling as well, he's famous for his 'uhms', 'ehs', and 'ahs' when not reading from a teleprompter.
This is why you don't seen him in the WH press room, he always sends his press secretary out for Q & A sessions there. |
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CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
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Thursday, November 10, 2011 5:52:59 PM
evanbartlett: Wrong, The Dept. of Educations mandate was to raise the literacy rate, back up to 98% or better. In the nearly 40 years it's been around all it's done is strengthen the teachers unions stranglehold on school budgets while the literacy rate has been steadily going downhill, despite large raises in it's own budget. |
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markust123
Male, 40-49, Western US
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Thursday, November 10, 2011 5:50:23 PM
@M_Archer, the link you attached was Obama misspeaking not stumbling on his words like an idiot. Although calling the Prime Minister of Canada "President" was a pretty big mistake it is not him stumbling like you said everyone would. You specifically called Obama out on this. Show the video of him stumbling over his words in a debate. |
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 M_Archer
Male, 18-29, Canada
529 Posts
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Thursday, November 10, 2011 3:47:27 PM
Just for you, markust123. This is from the '08 primaries: BEFORE he became president.
I actually wasn't trying to bait anyone, honest. But I'm a nice guy, so I'll post the video.
Now, there are many legitimate criticisms of Obama, but this is not one of them. I was simply pointing out a phenomenon that Obama wasn't immune to and I wasn't using the fact that Obama stumbles as an argument against him.
What I WAS doing however, was rebutting the OP's tacit assertion that stumbling=stupid--which it clearly doesn't. |
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