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Pigeon Shoot Hit And Run Update

Hits: 9474 | Rating: (2.3) | Category: News & Politics | Added by: fancys_asst
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Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 196 Posts
Sunday, November 13, 2011 4:59:05 PM
I hate people.

Male, 30-39, Midwest US
 5 Posts
Friday, November 11, 2011 9:48:55 AM
wow, pulled a gun? too bad PN isn't a state with a stand your ground law. BLAM! conversation over.

Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 89 Posts
Thursday, November 10, 2011 9:54:25 PM
pigion shooting, that sounds fun, im sick of those draters crapping on my car when i go to walmarts.

Male, 40-49, Southern US
 5487 Posts
Thursday, November 10, 2011 3:23:36 PM
MrOrange-"if you hit someone in your car you are obliged to offer first aid...yadda, yadda, yadda."
Altaru-"You can't just hit someone, drive off"

Is some places the cops will tell you that the first thing to do is leave the scene to find a public place, then call the cops. (especially if you just got re-ended) There are many areas where the 'accident' you were just envolved in is the prelude to a carjacking, robbery or murder.

In this case, the guy has obviously been harrassing the individuals. For all the driver knew it could be a set-up to get him outside his vehicle.

Male, 40-49, Southern US
 5487 Posts
Thursday, November 10, 2011 3:22:45 PM
Altaru-"he was standing on the grass, well out of the way. "

Well, seeing as the van never left the roadway, I doublt he was 'well out of the way'.

Altaru-"there's a police department"

Which is great for getting something done in a few days.

Altaru-"Pointing a gun at them or assaulting them, especially in public like in the one video, is not cool. "

The guy with the camera was harrassing people. The people have the right to harrass back. (It's not smart to annoying some folks.)

Altaru-don't deserve to be treated like human beings."

The videographer was being treated in just the way he was treating others. Annoy someone, and you're likely to get annoyed back.

Male, 30-39, Canada
 2041 Posts
Wednesday, November 09, 2011 8:27:14 PM

I never mentioned anything about where the guy was standing. I said that there is no video evidence of him being hit, and that is all. unless you have access to all of the footage he cropped out, perhaps? Another angle maybe? No?

The guys own website details his 1996 arrest and imprisonment for harassment. It also talks about his restraining order.


Male, 18-29, Southern US
 169 Posts
Wednesday, November 09, 2011 2:56:32 PM
should have ended him.

Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 889 Posts
Wednesday, November 09, 2011 2:31:57 PM
I would end them for touching me.

Male, 30-39, Southern US
 2810 Posts
Wednesday, November 09, 2011 10:46:03 AM
I just did a quick Google search to see if there are any professional news sources for any of this and literally just came up with nothing but activist and propaganda websites. Already I can see if I were to dig deeper the likely conclusion would be that these are activists slanting the truth to their cause.

BTW I abhore killing animals for sport.

Male, 30-39, Southern US
 2810 Posts
Wednesday, November 09, 2011 10:36:12 AM
I agree with SlothofDoom's tact. In that, just like the Texas Judge, there is always more to the story and people are mindless drating morons to take one persons slant and treat it as fact without looking for any other evidence.

The ONLY reason I have not posted much on this topic is that it is too convoluted for me to want to research the people and laws. (The Texas Judge was very easy in comparison.)

The bottom line is, if you dig, there is always more than what meets the eye. If you take one persons bias as fact without any research of your own... you are a drating clown.

Male, 30-39, Canada
 555 Posts
Wednesday, November 09, 2011 10:13:19 AM
It's a freakin sh*t hawk! Kill em all!

Male, 18-29, Asia
 354 Posts
Wednesday, November 09, 2011 9:59:17 AM
I do not concern about those pigeons at all, but evidently some of the people filmed are ******

Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 645 Posts
Wednesday, November 09, 2011 9:45:37 AM
I dont give 2 poos about these people killing pigeons or these people protesting it!

Male, 30-39, Europe
 2380 Posts
Wednesday, November 09, 2011 9:18:18 AM
and you sound like a complete moron to me for calling people with another point of view idiots,
you also sound like a moron because you can't deduce from the view of the camera that the guy is standing on the grass and not in the driveway, are you that stupid you cant see that? how thick must you be to argue that that guy must have been doing it for 15 years? if he had, he would have had a restraining order by now right? or the cops would have hauled his ass away for disturbance of the peace for gods sake man how dumb can you be!

if you would like this point of view without the name calling, i suggest you read Newton's laws of motion.

Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 14177 Posts
Wednesday, November 09, 2011 8:38:54 AM

Male, 30-39, Canada
 1710 Posts
Wednesday, November 09, 2011 8:19:51 AM
Blood near the end looked fake, I couldn't see any wound that would bleed like that. It looks like someone took an eye dropper and dripped it down his head.

Why would you follow people like this if you know it's going to piss them off. I'm starting to think the guy wasn't drunk and hit him on purpose out of anger. Perhaps the cops receive more complaints for the cameramen than the so called pigeon shooters.

That's the issue with stories like these, you never know the whole truth and can only guess.

Male, 30-39, Canada
 2041 Posts
Wednesday, November 09, 2011 8:17:30 AM
The video that we all just watched is not evidence of anything. The cameraman is not visible in it, all we see is a car drive by, the camera shakes and the cameraman screams that he has been hit. I can shake my camera and scream at cars too, does that mean I can start getting anyone I don't like charged with a crime? because that would be awesome.

The reason the cops don't take this guy seriously probably has nothing to do with payoffs, and everything to do with the fact that he has a fifteen year history of harassing these people, and breaking the law to do it.

Personally, I think pigeon shooting is idiotic, but moron extremists never help anything. Everyone jumping to this guys defense sound like idiots to me, since none of their "arguments" are based in reality. It is like debating fundie Christians ffs.

Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 17367 Posts
Wednesday, November 09, 2011 7:11:34 AM
Altaru: It's only your opinion, that the driver 'swerved' or meant to intentionally hit the camera guy. Just as it is my opinion that said camera guy stood on the pavement looking to get hit in that way.

But the law asks questions, like who was in the in the wrong first ? It is obvious the camera guy was violating the law first performing illegal surveillance. One reason he was so close was because he was trying to get pictures of the hunters faces to 'shame' them.

Btw, would you think it right for someone to hang out outside a gay bar and take pictures of the customers going in and out and use those pictures of peoples faces on a 'shame' website ? I seriously doubt you would.

Male, 18-29, Europe
 157 Posts
Wednesday, November 09, 2011 5:58:05 AM
I slap your kids, no biggy, minor offense.

Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 5204 Posts
Wednesday, November 09, 2011 5:48:54 AM
What I got from this is "I'm a pigeon shooter and I'm too much of a pussy to admit it."

I have no problem with it, though I wouldn't do it myself, as long as it's in moderation.

Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 14177 Posts
Wednesday, November 09, 2011 5:47:18 AM
OH NOEZ DEY HAVE GUNZ DEYZ RICH AND EVILZ!!!Let harass them everyday and only use the footage of them loosing it that's fair and balanced.

Male, 30-39, Europe
 4057 Posts
Wednesday, November 09, 2011 4:38:22 AM
C_Frost i guess you are looking Smurfs in 3D when you say "there were no injuries". If you look this video untill the end you can clearly see at least one head covered in blood.

Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 414 Posts
Wednesday, November 09, 2011 2:20:00 AM
That's effed up.

Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 3500 Posts
Wednesday, November 09, 2011 1:12:49 AM
And as Orange just pointed out, any law enforcement agency worth it's pay would find reasonable suspicion, especially with the video as evidence, that the driver deliberately attempted to hit the camera man.

That would be considered, again by any law enforcement agency worth it's pay, assault with a deadly weapon, as Orange said.

But of course, they ARE worth their pay: the pay they're getting from the rich pricks in the "hunting" club.

The fact is, there is a justice system. If these rich asshats didn't think they were above it, they could easily use it to get rid of this protester bunch. Hell, they obviously have the cops in their wallets anyway.

Instead, they've decided that they're going to take the law in their own hands and BREAK THE LAW to try and get rid of the problem.

Of course, as you can see here, the problem with that strategy is that it makes them criminals, and gives the protesters even more reason to b*tch.

Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 3500 Posts
Wednesday, November 09, 2011 1:08:27 AM
Altaru: Also you claimed this was 'Hit n Run', but where did the truck owner 'Run' to ? He stayed on the same property the whole time and did not attempt to leave the property or allude the police.

Crakr, it's considered a Hit and Run if you don't stop and identify yourself. That's the criteria, and it's illegal.

You can't just hit someone, drive off and go about your business like nothing happened. Even if you do "stay on the same property." That's like saying I could hit someone in the parking lot at Wal-Mart, leave them bleeding all over the pavement, and just go about my shopping.

If you don't know this basic rule of the road, then I don't feel safe out there knowing that your dumb ass is operating a motor vehicle.

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