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WikiLeaks' MasterCard Commercial

Hits: 13142 | Rating: (3.2) | Category: Misc. | Added by: kitteh9lives
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Kaylen226
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 114 Posts
Saturday, October 29, 2011 7:47:53 AM
Well if that's the case, Canoas, lets make alcohol illegal too. It's obviously worse than weed, even though they both prove to impair judgment and slow reflexes.

Canoas
Male, 18-29, Europe
 429 Posts
Friday, October 28, 2011 6:30:22 PM
@CrakrJak
Smoking weed has already been proven countless times to significantly decrease the risk of cancer and it might even help reducing tumour sizes.
If a law is made to ban a medicine which is not harmful at all and actually provides entertainment while legalising other drugs which are harmful to those who use it and to everyone around them then by all means drat the laws.
Laws should be made in the best interest of the society, not the opposite.

Koozyer
Male, 70 & Over, Western US
 2 Posts
Friday, October 28, 2011 4:55:38 PM
Hey, CrakrJak

I smoke weed, and I also don't follow the laws. drat YOU :)

randomxnp
Male, 30-39, Europe
 1271 Posts
Friday, October 28, 2011 4:48:56 PM
Wikileaks is just Julian Assange publicly masturbating. He gave up its founding ideals (such that his co-founders condemn him) and risked the lives of innocent Iraqis for his self-publicity. Wikileaks can no longer do the job it was set up to do. They deserve all they get.

FemBot
Female, 18-29, Western US
 263 Posts
Friday, October 28, 2011 12:49:24 PM
Come on CrakrJak, give the pothead a break. Despite the use of a crappy metaphor and obvious criminal activities, his point was a very good one. I love our country but I know that our legal system is only as strong as the people upholding it and some, if not most, of those people are idiots.

Ozmose
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
 441 Posts
Friday, October 28, 2011 9:46:42 AM
And in comes Captain DoGooder, to save us from all the pot smokers and j-walkers!!!

Take that **** down to the park, maybe the squirrels will care.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 17310 Posts
Friday, October 28, 2011 9:06:27 AM
NNoamfer: "Just because something id illegal doesn't mean its wrong or unnecessary. It's like saying you shouldn't smoke weed because it's illegal."

And I bet you smoke weed and don't follow other laws either, Enjoy your future stays in jail and the fines that come with it you criminal.

QualityJay
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 303 Posts
Friday, October 28, 2011 8:54:32 AM
@almighty bob: reiterating your point, "A journalist publishing documents leaked to them by their source is not illegal. At least not in any country with freedom of the press. "

Our government is far too opaque. The more this guy does the better. Obama promised the most transparent government ever. Well at least this guys is trying to help.

I'm a patriotic american, but you are a fool if you think our gov. does no wrong. My allegiance is to the people, the country, the constitution, not the government.

Samsquanch
Male, 30-39, Canada
 794 Posts
Friday, October 28, 2011 4:03:29 AM
"The term 'in the interests of national security' are far too often over-used by governments...."

That's exactly why I support Assange's efforts. The western nations were supposed to be a peoples' nation. Governments were supposed to be run as transparent, and representative of the populous. However, over time, the western governments (not just the US, but Canada, England, Germany, etc) got too bloated with greed that the number of backroom dealings caused contempt among the people. We, for the most part, sat silent, unaware of what was truly going on (we knew something was wrong, but couldn't put our fingers on it).
Yes, governments must keep secrets from their enemies, but the secrets were compounding to the point of political corruption.

Baalthazaq
Male, 18-29, Asia
 4753 Posts
Friday, October 28, 2011 3:00:33 AM
"he didnt cause the uprising in the middle east."

Tunisia leaks of the scale of government corruption was the spark that caused that revolution.

Seeing the dictator topple in Tunisia is what inspired Egypt.

Egypt is what inspired the rest of the Middle East.

whyme73
Male, 18-29, Western US
 468 Posts
Friday, October 28, 2011 1:01:01 AM
he didnt cause the uprising in the middle east.

Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
 33911 Posts
Thursday, October 27, 2011 10:56:13 PM

@ Intrasting - he gave away many nations secrets. To his own country he's a traitor, to other countries it's just espionage. Since he earned some nice coin doing I guess he qualifies as mercenary spy.

What? You thought he did it for free speach?

xiquiripat
Male, 18-29, Western US
 2419 Posts
Thursday, October 27, 2011 6:57:02 PM
He is part of the Rebel Alliance and a traitor! Take him away!

Listypoos
Male, 30-39, Europe
 2715 Posts
Thursday, October 27, 2011 3:56:26 PM
I'm kinda torn on this one - on one hand I worked in military intelligence and the idea of anyone in that position supplying wikileaks with their data is abhorrent, and on the other hand.... I think he's right to publish what he gets his mits on - it's not him that signed the official secrets act or the US equivalent. He's not the one committing treason, he's a journalist publishing data the government wishes he didn't have - in that respect he's no different than Woodward and Bernstein - does America look on those two as terrorists or traitors because they uncovered and published some of the government of the day's secrets?

The term 'in the interests of national security' are far too often over-used by governments.... I've seen stuff labelled as that before that was just embarrassing for a government rather than dangerous for the country.

madest
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 6464 Posts
Thursday, October 27, 2011 2:34:10 PM
Bottom line, whether you agree with what he's doing or not, you can't deny that his actions, and the actions of others working with and for WikiLeaks, are illegal.
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Yes I can. And I do. There is not a secrecy clause in our government that allows them to deem released information after it's been viewed as secret. We are supposed to be an open society but the top-secret world the government created in response to 9/11, has become so large, so unwieldy and so secretive that no one knows how much money it costs, how many people it employs, how many programs exist within it or exactly how many agencies do the same work.
Jullian Assange hasn't revealed our real secrets like how we make stealth aircraft. He has revealed our failings like Abu Gharib. Important stuff that we need to know. This man is an American hero whether you want to believe it or not.

demonveteran
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 235 Posts
Thursday, October 27, 2011 2:17:00 PM
dang did not know wikileaks had all that money, are they technically a corporation now? protesters should occupy his house.

Intaresting
Male, 18-29, Europe
 812 Posts
Thursday, October 27, 2011 2:12:36 PM
@Gerry1of1
He's not an American.

splurbyburbl
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 2810 Posts
Thursday, October 27, 2011 1:57:20 PM
"Bottom line, whether you agree with what he's doing or not, you can't deny that his actions, and the actions of others working with and for WikiLeaks, are illegal."

The bottom line? What bottom line are you looking at? There is nothing illegal that Assange is doing. He isn't doing anything that other journalists don't do.

CreamK
Male, 40-49, Europe
 1222 Posts
Thursday, October 27, 2011 1:56:21 PM
What happened to that 15mil? Is it returned to donators or is it in the bowels of these cc-companies? If latter then it's just sooo wrong i want to blow up the planet..

Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
 33911 Posts
Thursday, October 27, 2011 1:55:09 PM

@ Intaresting - treason is action against your homeland.
I don't care what the justification is, it's still treason.
If you can't understand that kind of loyalty I feel sorry for you. You and your generation which seem stumped by the idea of honoring a flag, saying a pledge or the concept of why it's wrong to giveaway your countries secrets.

My generation must have been the worst parents in history to produce such people.

MinPinRage
Female, 30-39, Midwest US
 65 Posts
Thursday, October 27, 2011 1:52:18 PM
the future will be very kind to julian assange, regarding him as the hero that he is. after all, jesus changed the world and look how people regard him.

both of them have/had a message that needs to be communicated. both have/had excellent PR. and that is the only reason that people think jesus is the son of an imaginary god--EXCELLENT P.R.

Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
 33911 Posts
Thursday, October 27, 2011 1:51:42 PM

I posted this link about WikiLeaks shutting down but IAB weeks ago didn't approve it. Here ya go...

WikiLeaks Closes It's Doors

Student_Law
Male, 30-39, Europe
 966 Posts
Thursday, October 27, 2011 1:49:49 PM
@CrakrJak: yeah, that's why they haven't been able to find something to charge him with... You should call the Justice Department and teach them a lesson or two. He has been in house arrest for months, nothing is happening. That's because there is nothing to charge him with. Bradley Manning may be guilty, but that's probably based on a contract with the military that obligates him to secrecy. When you sign a deal with the government and promise not to reveal anything, you are basically just wavering your right to free speech. But as for Assange and others, nobody has an "obligation" to shut up about anything. Hence, revealing what you know is not "espionage" Especially when it comes to revealing crimes committed by an occupying government. In fact, that is exactly what the people who wrote the constitutions was thinking about. If you want to serve the spirit of Democracy and freedom, you should protect Wikileaks.

almightybob1
Male, 18-29, Europe
 4278 Posts
Thursday, October 27, 2011 1:47:50 PM
you can't deny that his actions, and the actions of others working with and for WikiLeaks, are illegal.

A journalist publishing documents leaked to them by their source is not illegal. At least not in any country with freedom of the press.

The leaking itself may be a breach of employment contract or a country's law by the source, but the journalist is not at fault for that.

almightybob1
Male, 18-29, Europe
 4278 Posts
Thursday, October 27, 2011 1:40:47 PM
Assange is a criminal and will be convicted

Aside from the fact that you either
1) don't care about innocent until proven guilty, since he's a criminal before conviction in your eyes, or
2) have information you are withholding from the police that lets you know he is guilty without bothering with the red tape of due process and the right to trial,

What will he be convicted of?

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