 topgun966
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 42 Posts
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Sunday, October 23, 2011 9:34:35 PM
OMFG WILL NOTHING MAKE YOU PEOPLE HAPPY. EVERYONE SCREAMING BRING OUR TROOPS HOME FROM IRAQ AND HE DOES IT NOW PEOPLE ARE FINDING PROBLEMS WITH THAT. OMG I NEED TO GET OFF THIS PLANET NOW |
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 GParadox
Female, 18-29, Western US
740 Posts
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Sunday, October 23, 2011 2:20:38 PM
In Iraq... Soldiers in Iraq will come home. This does not include the troops in other countries. Misleading tittle. |
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 Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
25617 Posts
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Sunday, October 23, 2011 12:01:10 PM
That frees up a lot of troops to invade Iran.
woo-hoo ? |
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 OldOllie
Male, 50-59, Midwest US
8727 Posts
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Sunday, October 23, 2011 11:39:16 AM
Draculya, are you so stupid that you cannot even tell when you've been insulted? The point was that she is so incredibly naive that she actually believes that she has a choice as to whether someone wants to rob, rape, or murder her.
If you want to make peace with Islamic surprmacists, you have the following choices: 1) convert to Islam, 2) become a slave or a dhimmi, 3) die, or 4) emmigrate. (It should be noted that this last choice is a limited-time offer and only good as long as there still exists a non-Muslim country to which you can flee.)
You want to ensure that the Islamo-fascists are not your enemy? Pick one. |
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ChrisP12
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
186 Posts
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Sunday, October 23, 2011 8:37:45 AM
I'm glad there coming home but next springs headline will be, "Iranian troops pour over the boarder..."
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 splurbyburbl
Male, 30-39, Southern US
2810 Posts
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Saturday, October 22, 2011 4:17:50 PM
Kuwait? Not a warzone dude |
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 shalantas
Male, 18-29, Western US
426 Posts
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Saturday, October 22, 2011 1:53:23 PM
well. accept Kuwait, and Afghanistan. |
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 madest
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
6406 Posts
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Saturday, October 22, 2011 8:30:21 AM
One down one to go. |
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splurbyburbl
Male, 30-39, Southern US
2810 Posts
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Saturday, October 22, 2011 7:57:23 AM
"what about all the soldiers that got killed and blown up and such?
they coming back too? we gonna resurrect the soldiers killed while fighting a stupid unjustifiably prolonged war before christmas?"
Yes. Have any other super cool questions? |
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 heavypred
Male, 30-39, Europe
236 Posts
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Saturday, October 22, 2011 7:56:53 AM
It's funny how you all discuss amercun military spendings, and no one is concerned with global impact of US military involvement all over the globe. To quote a character from the best Punisher episode ever- 'The End': You shout war on terror on chinese and they laugh so hard the world blows up in your face. That's the trouble with the war you never want to end. |
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tedgp
Male, 30-39, Europe
2928 Posts
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Saturday, October 22, 2011 7:51:01 AM
Never going to happen. It will encourage even more terroism. |
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krw888
Male, 50-59, Canada
135 Posts
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Saturday, October 22, 2011 6:36:31 AM
Thank you Mr. President |
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jacos27
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
222 Posts
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Saturday, October 22, 2011 6:29:49 AM
Home by the holidays? does that include Thanksgiving? cause when I and others say the holidays, I usually mean the time from Halloween to New Years Day....obviously not in time for Halloween...and Thanksgiving is only a month away. Perhaps it's possible to bring the rest home in a month, but that would be extremely difficult. Should we bank for the religious holidays? The only two criticisms of the speech was that he didn't mention Iran (though we're not at war with them, but war seems likely) and that he didn't give a specific date. Two things that I think are important. |
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 hatface
Male, 18-29, Europe
614 Posts
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Saturday, October 22, 2011 5:04:40 AM
Oh, I forgot to mention, but people should acctually read through the 2011 budget
It's pretty interesting. Also, a breakdown of government spending here, here, here and here |
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hatface
Male, 18-29, Europe
614 Posts
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Saturday, October 22, 2011 4:47:54 AM
@markust123 Why did you quote me when you posted those numbers on spending increases? That had nothing to do with what I said.
@plastinum well, if you won't believe what the government say they spend it on even a bit, then you won't find a more reliable source. You can't just say "America spends way more on the military than on anything else". What does that mean? On EVERYTHING else? I already said, they spend more on Health and pensions. Health alone costs them 0.9 Trillion, 0.1 trillion less than military spending. It's a lot of money, sure (the same amount they spend on Education, in fact), but not 'Way more'.
(2011)
Total Spending: 3.8 Trillion
Pensions: 0.8 Trillion
Health: 0.9 Trillion
defence: 1 Tillion
Welfare: 0.5 Trillion
Education: 0.1 Trillion
(Source)
  amgbac09
Female, 18-29, Southern US
33 Posts
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Saturday, October 22, 2011 3:36:39 AM
They've been reducing the amount of troops in Iraq for awhile. Believe it when he says that we will be out of Iraq by the end of the year. We are almost there already. But all that is going to happen is the troops that would have been going to Iraq are now going to be going to Afghanistan. I don't believe that our military is going to receive the much needed break. I'm not sure what current deployment times are but during my husbands last tour they were 15 months overseas, 12 months home. When he got out they were changing it to 15 months home, 12 overseas. These were army stats at Fort Campbell, KY. The #1 reason my husband hasn't reenlisted (army)is the very long deployments. |
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 RoboPatton
Male, 30-39, Western US
1952 Posts
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Saturday, October 22, 2011 2:55:59 AM
Hopefully we dont have to go back. |
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 lostinkorea
Female, 30-39, Europe
3620 Posts
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Saturday, October 22, 2011 1:55:26 AM
Nytewulf
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
471 Posts Friday, October 21, 2011 2:28:56 PM
I'll believe it when I see it. Not that I'm anti or pro Obama, I just know the situation is more complicated than simply bringing EVERY soldier home.
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You have no clue! We've already been pulling out for the last 2 years. And guess what? The majority of Iragies don't want us to go and it's not about the money. We're on the last phase of getting everyone home. It's been a long hard process but dammit it's finally happening. Thank you Obama! I'm glad I'm not going back...Osiriscend, back me up here. |
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 Draculya
Male, 30-39, Asia
6308 Posts
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Saturday, October 22, 2011 12:52:47 AM
@OldOllie If she said that, she had a good point. If I have a disdain for violence, as the last refuge of the incompetent(*), I abhor war.
(*) Credit where it's due: I quote Asimov in his book Foundation, who in turn tips his hat to Samuel Johnson who wrote "Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel."
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Draculya
Male, 30-39, Asia
6308 Posts
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Saturday, October 22, 2011 12:45:00 AM
@Neagle Thanks that was a nice measured response. I do not hate all Americans. My wife and other members of my family are American. What I do hate is the behaviour of the nation towards other nations and its own citizenry. It's not just the government that has lost its way, but the people; the entire culture has turned from wholesome values to self gratification and wanton, undeserved greed. I especially dislike the way many Americans choose to ignore the truth whitewashing over our pleas with a "USA! USA! USA!" Talk about spiking the football.
It is not just America that I dislike. I hate China, where I reside, for all the same reasons, plus a generous topping of corruption and lack of sympathy for the plight of the small man.
While I remain proud of my own nation's (UK) past achievements I dispair about what it is also becoming.
There are better nations, but it's better to consider how we can improve. |
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 beardtats
Male, 18-29, Canada
255 Posts
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Saturday, October 22, 2011 12:26:10 AM
what about all the soldiers that got killed and blown up and such?
they coming back too? we gonna resurrect the soldiers killed while fighting a stupid unjustifiably prolonged war before christmas? |
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 Neagle
Male, 30-39, Western US
1405 Posts
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Friday, October 21, 2011 11:51:57 PM
Draculya how quickly you condemn my country with self-endowed righteousness and speak for an entire continent while I can assure you I could find those individuals in which country you reside that hold a starkly opposing view than yours. That's OK because my nation also has those individuals with feelings similar to your own. Your countryman made a choice to allied with many nations who could see the potential danger presented to those nations citizens by mad men.
You do have a point though that America does need to be introspective and be a better World citizen I hope that we put an end to way to generous trade as well as technological sharing imbalances and policies that do not directly benefit our nations financial interests. Don't worry I'm am rather certain the majority of my fellow citizens are starting to come to a consensus. |
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shamrock1014
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
184 Posts
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Friday, October 21, 2011 11:04:54 PM
How is he taking credit for this? Dec 31, 2011 was the deadline set by Bush in the SOFA. All he is doing is keeping Bush's timeline. |
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 Selous
Male, 30-39, Australia
1205 Posts
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Friday, October 21, 2011 10:39:52 PM
way to abandon everyone that has helped you in this war america
this is why you are universally hated around the world, because you cant stand a prolonged fight |
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OldOllie
Male, 50-59, Midwest US
8727 Posts
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Friday, October 21, 2011 10:33:57 PM
@Draculya Gee, Dracky, you're ALMOST as smart as that world renown philosopher and all-around mental giant Sheryl Crowe who once said, "I think war is never the answer to solving any problems. The best way to solve problems is to not have enemies."
WOW! Don't you wish YOU had said THAT! |
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