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Dr. Ben Goldacre: TED: How To Spot Bad Science

Hits: 8572 | Rating: (3.2) | Category: Science | Added by: CrakrJak
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Ruffiana
Male, 30-39, Western US
 508 Posts
Monday, October 17, 2011 4:10:38 PM
Surprisingly good talk. Thanks for the link.

EgalM
Male, 30-39, Canada
 1710 Posts
Monday, October 17, 2011 8:37:10 AM
Yet there are people who would call this guy a conspiracy nut, solely because they refuse to admit that they are wrong in any way.

Excellent piece, well done, and definitely needed to be said.

Vimto
Male, 40-49, Europe
 2593 Posts
Monday, October 17, 2011 5:45:48 AM
I love this guy, it's well worth subscribing to his blog.

LordJim
Male, 50-59, Europe
 4609 Posts
Sunday, October 16, 2011 8:43:23 AM
Ben is a little dynamo of good sense and good science. Or, as he used to say on his profile, 'a genuine drat-off ninja scientist.'

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 17174 Posts
Saturday, October 15, 2011 2:44:09 PM
Altaru: The FDA would enforce the rule and it's always easier to tell the truth than manufacture a lie. The rule would have a clause that if said pharmaceutical company didn't release all it's research information they'd loose their patent rights. I believe that would make sure compliance was 100%, because no company would risk loosing their patent to cover up negative results.

Seriously though, your anti-capitalist rants are getting more and more shrill, not all regulation is bad regulation.

Qwertyuiop95
Male, 18-29, Western US
 217 Posts
Saturday, October 15, 2011 2:35:33 PM
@Klamz Welcome to TED. When you have a time limit you have to keep talking. There's no breaks on presentations of this type.

Fatninja01
Male, 18-29, Australia
 24631 Posts
Saturday, October 15, 2011 12:49:47 PM
Manipulate the stats to get the desired effect

IrishJesus
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 484 Posts
Saturday, October 15, 2011 12:36:36 PM
This was great. The guy is very interesting and informative. GJ, Crakr

cyborg
Male, 13-17, Midwest US
 2799 Posts
Saturday, October 15, 2011 9:45:53 AM
that's what she said

Klamz
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 693 Posts
Saturday, October 15, 2011 9:42:20 AM
HE WON'T SHUT UP!!!!!!!!!!!!

Altaru
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 3500 Posts
Saturday, October 15, 2011 9:39:23 AM
A full disclosure rule on research would go a long way toward proving efficacy of future drugs,

And who would legislate and enforce the rule?

And wouldn't that rule just be another form of regulation that would get in the way of profits?

After all, citizen groups have proven highly ineffective when it comes to forcing the truth out of companies, if the example mentioned in this video is anything to go by.

But of course, in your rose tinted glasses towards the absolute free market, everything works out perfectly because the people organize against bad companies. After all, it worked out so well before the Pure Food and Drug Act...

Face it. It's more profitable to f*ck us over, so why would they change? And it's not like we have a choice most of the time, if it's more profitable then high money says they're all doing it. Monkey See, Monkey Do, Monkey Profit More Off You.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 17174 Posts
Saturday, October 15, 2011 9:28:17 AM
LazyMe: If you think that's messed up, I had to defend Obama, a few days ago, against a charge from madest wanting him impeached over killing Anwar Awalaki. hehehehe.

LillianDulci
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 2696 Posts
Saturday, October 15, 2011 9:24:19 AM
Love this guy!

LazyMe484
Male, 18-29, Canada
 10503 Posts
Saturday, October 15, 2011 9:23:59 AM
Crackr posted a TED video? Whaaaaa? That is messed up.

sunday_scour
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 275 Posts
Saturday, October 15, 2011 9:20:37 AM
TED TALKS ROCK! www.ted.com

Monosandalos
Male, 30-39, Europe
 254 Posts
Saturday, October 15, 2011 9:17:40 AM
@CrakrJak: Staying off topic for a minute, I don't think any truly socialist countries exist that have pharmaceutical companies in them.
Furthermore, even if a pharmaceutical company is in a socialist country, it is still a company and the balance sheet is what makes the difference at the end of the day.
The only thing I can think of that can play a major role is the legislation that exists in the country that company is in, and how well that legislation is enforced.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 17174 Posts
Saturday, October 15, 2011 9:01:40 AM
Altaru: A full disclosure rule on research would go a long way toward proving efficacy of future drugs, but your anti-capitalism junk is really off-topic.

A bad drug can be made in a socialist country just as easily as in a capitalist one.

ShroomGypsy
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
 64 Posts
Saturday, October 15, 2011 8:45:39 AM
Score one for logic, bitches.

Altaru
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 3500 Posts
Saturday, October 15, 2011 8:44:58 AM
I knew what epidemiology is!

And if you take nothing else away from this video, then take this point:

Pharmaceutical companies working for profit are out to f*ck us over. They don't care about your health. If their products actually made you healthier, they wouldn't profit because you wouldn't need them.

And that's capitalism, folks.

(Yes, I did just turn this into a debate about how capitalism in health care DOES NOT WORK.)

dude21862004
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 778 Posts
Saturday, October 15, 2011 8:44:37 AM
I hate that most TED videos are either sync'd wrong or have a bad fps :/

Tretarn
Male, 18-29, Europe
 14 Posts
Saturday, October 15, 2011 8:32:47 AM
cheers for the link CrakrJak, I can not believe that pharmaceuticals get away with that...

yoda141
Male, 18-29, S. America
 268 Posts
Saturday, October 15, 2011 8:30:20 AM
Lol, a creationist posts a video on how to spot bad science The irony!

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 17174 Posts
Saturday, October 15, 2011 8:09:10 AM
Link: Dr. Ben Goldacre: TED: How To Spot Bad Science [Rate Link] - Goldacre explains about misuse of popular research that makes bold claims.


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