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Tuk Er Jeeerbs!

Hits: 10985 | Rating: (2.9) | Category: Community & Lifestyle | Added by: kitteh9lives
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cfwestdotie
Male, 18-29, Europe
 136 Posts
Wednesday, October 12, 2011 5:33:59 PM
and a dingo took my baby

Batmanners
Male, 18-29, Canada
 4012 Posts
Tuesday, October 11, 2011 9:40:39 PM
Davy....TL:DR

jk... I read the whole thing.... I think you won the internet.

davymid
Male, 30-39, Europe
 12078 Posts
Tuesday, October 11, 2011 6:02:17 PM
Yeah yeah, I know, shutting up now. Just to give some food for thought to those who say “but we mere humans couldn’t possibly affect the overall CO2 balance in the atmosphere, earth will heal itself, we’re only small beer etc”. The Eyjafjallajökull eruption in Iceland last year which sent up the ash-cloud over the North Atlantic and grounded all flights between Europe and North America for a week or so, saw slightly less global CO2 production that day from grounded airplanes planes than the volcano put into the atmosphere, as recorded by satellites. Which, when you think about it, made it the world’s first carbon-neutral volcano.

And if that doesn’t convince you, just fire up Google Earth, and have a walk around.

Anyways, not setting off any alarm bells, but just some food for thought.

Finally, CJ, wise the f*ck up on your science.

davymid
Male, 30-39, Europe
 12078 Posts
Tuesday, October 11, 2011 5:51:46 PM
Point is, blanket stating that “CO2 is beneficial not harmful” is a deeply retarded statement to make, and simplifies complex systems to the point where it’s scientifically meaningless. Oceanic Anoxic Events, due to an overabundance of CO2 deoxygenizing our oceans are very real, the evidence being the gasoline you put in your car engine and the TV that comes on when you flick the switch. Good for us in this day and age, but I wouldn’t have wanted to be around when one was going on.

Lastly, don’t underestimate the volume of CO2 that humans are pumping out. Not being alarmist, but best scientific evidence from DSDP (Deep Sea Drilling Project) wells and geological outcrop studies indicate that these global OAE events are likely to occur when CO2 levels get into the 1000ppm range. We’re currently at 400ppm. The present level is higher than at any time during the last 800 thousand years, and likely higher than in the past 20 million years.

davymid
Male, 30-39, Europe
 12078 Posts
Tuesday, October 11, 2011 5:51:25 PM
It’s not a case of higher CO2 levels -> more algae -> Beneficial. High levels of CO2 have been known to cause Algal Blooms, which in many cases are highly toxic to life. In extreme cases, they have led to Global Oceanic Anoxic Events at various points throughout geological time. These are directly correlated to high CO2 levels (as you correctly point out, through periods of high volcanic activity). These are periods when the entire circulatory system of the world’s oceans stagnates, stratifies, and result in mass extinctions due to low oxygenation of the waters because of high CO2 levels. Happened several times in the Cretaceous, the end-Jurassic and in the Palaeozoic.

I know about these because I work in oil and gas exploration, and they make for excellent source rocks. Believe me, I understand these systems, and have published several p

davymid
Male, 30-39, Europe
 12078 Posts
Tuesday, October 11, 2011 5:51:12 PM
It’s not simply a case of higher CO2 levels meaning more algae, meaning more plankton, meaning more fish, meaning Utopia on earth. Sorry dude, but that’s straight out of the Bill O’Reilly playbook of “Tides come in, tides go out. You can’t explain that” level of scientific ignorance. You know for a fact that the ecosystem is more complex than that. You might as well say “Well, plants need sunlight as well as CO2. So it would be beneficial to the planet if it were moved 20% closer to the sun.” You must know that there are many other feedback loops within that system.

And I KNOW you’re smarter than that. Which leaves me with two possible conclusions: either you’re burying your head in the sand with simplistic grade-school scientific bullsh*t of “more CO2 = good!” when you know the system to be more complex than that, or you’re deliberately trying to deceive people.

davymid
Male, 30-39, Europe
 12078 Posts
Tuesday, October 11, 2011 5:50:53 PM
GODDAMMIT CRAKRJAK! Now you’re arguing marine geology/geochemistry with a guy with a PhD in the subject. There’s no way of saying that without coming across as an arsehole.

Look, lemme preface this by saying I have no particular opinion on cap-and-trade, regulated CO2 reductions etc. I’m no CO2 alarmist, but I do say we need to watch it. And I actually agree with you that it’s a bit silly to regulate CO2 emissions in the western world when China is building (last I checked) new coal-fired power stations at the rate of one per week. But that’s all politics. Hey, I recycle, I use energy-efficient light-bulbs etc, but that’s my choice and that’s besides the point.

What I’m talking about here is science, and you’re pissing me off, because you’re wrong, ignorant and ill-informed again.

Batmanners
Male, 18-29, Canada
 4012 Posts
Tuesday, October 11, 2011 5:30:50 PM
TUKA TURRR!!!!

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 17172 Posts
Tuesday, October 11, 2011 3:23:36 PM
davymid: Please tell me what happens to plants in an atmosphere with higher than normal CO2 levels ?

Answer: They grow faster AND produce more oxygen while doing so.

More CO2 means more algae, which means more plankton, more fish, etc.. it's beneficial. Earth keeps itself in balance and has done so surviving through volcanoes that make mankind's minute effect on pollution seem like a drop in the bucket.

The great prairies of America regularly caught on fire, for months at a time, before the white man came and started farming.

If you're so worried about CO2, go after the biggest polluters first, China and India, We've got more than enough regulations on it here.

EgalM
Male, 30-39, Canada
 1710 Posts
Tuesday, October 11, 2011 12:01:38 PM
I laughed pretty hard and the message was lost on me.

davymid
Male, 30-39, Europe
 12078 Posts
Tuesday, October 11, 2011 9:46:55 AM
Klamz: Carbon Dioxide is not pollution, it's plant food. CO2 is used in a lot of manufacturing processes and it's beneficial not harmful.

If I didn't know you so well CJ, I'd swear you were trolling. Unfortunately the reality is far worse.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 17172 Posts
Tuesday, October 11, 2011 9:14:52 AM
mosthead: If you had ever read Klamz posts, you'd know that he doesn't have a firm grasp on reality.

mosthead
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 96 Posts
Tuesday, October 11, 2011 8:42:36 AM
"Carbon Dioxide is not pollution, it's plant food. CO2 is used in a lot of manufacturing processes and it's beneficial not harmful."

Everything in excess is harmful. And having a grasp on reality doesn't make you a nutjob.

Izaq
Male, 30-39, Europe
 175 Posts
Tuesday, October 11, 2011 6:24:21 AM
Once I was employed for shoveling radioactive waste into the gutter. Now they made it illegal. They took my job!!!!!

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 17172 Posts
Tuesday, October 11, 2011 5:07:59 AM
Klamz: Carbon Dioxide is not pollution, it's plant food. CO2 is used in a lot of manufacturing processes and it's beneficial not harmful.

I'm guessing you're the type of eco-nut that would ban Di-Hydrogen MonoOxide as well.

Draculya
Male, 40-49, Asia
 12337 Posts
Tuesday, October 11, 2011 4:04:02 AM
From the people of Europe, USA, and especially China and S/SE Asia to Julia: Thank you for all the jobs.

sirgurl
Female, 18-29, Australia
 109 Posts
Tuesday, October 11, 2011 1:22:59 AM
hahahaha the original was just on tv, all I could hear were the south park voices in my head~

xCYBERDYNEx
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 4799 Posts
Monday, October 10, 2011 11:21:56 PM


FartSmeller
Male, 50-59, Eastern US
 33 Posts
Monday, October 10, 2011 9:53:13 PM
The edit gives a quite accurate message. The tax will take their jobs. Oil exporters will sell their oil to countries that have lower carbon taxes and can therefore produce more goods for trade. There goes the jobs.

HalfPintRoo
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 2475 Posts
Monday, October 10, 2011 8:47:44 PM
South Park Version

Justin9235
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 1582 Posts
Monday, October 10, 2011 8:01:10 PM
I <3 South Park so much

Tubby12370
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 1369 Posts
Monday, October 10, 2011 6:21:30 PM
The original video here


Tuk Er Jeeerbs! edit was pretty funny.

cyborg
Male, 13-17, Midwest US
 2799 Posts
Monday, October 10, 2011 5:30:37 PM
awesome

Fatninja01
Male, 18-29, Australia
 24631 Posts
Monday, October 10, 2011 5:23:14 PM
Ha ha ha ha... thats brilliant. Didnt expect that. Now i can never watch that ad and not laugh

Klamz
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 693 Posts
Monday, October 10, 2011 4:55:24 PM
Hip hip POLLUTION!

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