 Linkenberger
Male, 18-29, Canada
 1066 Posts
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Wednesday, September 14, 2011 2:54:13 PM
I support Kalimata.
I think Americans are most disgusted with the fact that their taxes would go to pay for someone else's medical needs. I would gladly let some of my taxes go to making sure the people I share this land with stay healthy. I may not use the healthcare system enough to get my personal moneys worth, but in the long run it's worth it.
You probably see it like mandatory gratuities. I see it more like raising our standard of health. |
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 xCYBERDYNEx
Male, 18-29, Southern US
4798 Posts
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Wednesday, September 14, 2011 5:43:27 AM
Diagnosed with an infection, he chooses pain medication over anti biotics!
F*cking moron. |
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 Kalimata
Male, 30-39, Canada
591 Posts
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Monday, September 12, 2011 11:47:43 AM
I have trouble understanding the all out freakfest that some are having over the prospect of a government provided health care system.
It's either one extreme or the other for some of you. You can have social aid networks without becoming the Soviet Union for Buddha's sake. Seriously, providing care for everyone is not a bad thing. |
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 NottaSpy
Male, 40-49, Western US
838 Posts
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Monday, September 12, 2011 10:52:45 AM
I will never understand the Conservative point of view on this. They are fanatically patriotic, but feel that you are responsible for only yourself. The whole purpose of a country is that it can better protect and provide for its citizens than individual states. States are better at it than individual cities, and cities better than single family homes, and families better than individuals.
We have failed when the least powerful among us are denied their very lives. |
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 DingDingDong
Male, 30-39, Western US
1416 Posts
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Monday, September 12, 2011 8:41:59 AM
I pay for my own health insurance (I'm self-employed). It's only $79/month. |
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DingDingDong
Male, 30-39, Western US
1416 Posts
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Monday, September 12, 2011 8:34:17 AM
When I became unemployed, I bought my own private health insurance. It's called being responsible. Also, Rx antibiotics are $5 at Walmart. Also, health insurance usually doesn't include dental coverage. Also, he probably had an iPhone which he made sure to pay each month. |
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 YugureKage
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
1093 Posts
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Monday, September 12, 2011 8:16:30 AM
I totally support socialism. If it were easier to immigrate to Great Britain, or Finland I would. This is just awful...and while he did seem to make a stupid choice in getting the pain meds, I can't say I blame him. Antibiotics are often expensive. Perhaps the antibiotics were more expensive than the pain meds. It's easy to judge when you aren't in this kind of situation. |
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 Oystah
Female, 40-49, Eastern US
3454 Posts
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Monday, September 12, 2011 7:54:45 AM
Should say man dies of infection by choosing pain killer over antibiotic. |
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 keith2
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
2316 Posts
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Sunday, September 11, 2011 9:39:51 PM
I'm getting mine pulled at a university dental school for around $110 including x-rays and all that. My pain meds were only around 20 to hold me over till my appointment, and certain places sell antibiotics for $5. All with no dental insurance. No its not free but it's not outrageous either. A minimum wage worker can afford that. Which means get a damn job. |
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 OutWest
Male, 50-59, Western US
548 Posts
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Sunday, September 11, 2011 4:03:42 PM
Being a little socialist is like being a little pregnant, isn't it? You either are or you are not.
Thank you for your ideas and with all due respect to your beliefs I don't think we want to be Europe or Canada. Oh... and I hope we never will.
With all due respect. |
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 jadedtortois
Female, 18-29, Canada
779 Posts
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Sunday, September 11, 2011 1:56:37 PM
I don't understand how the sentiment of NOT being a socialist over shadows the obvious need for a semi-socialist state. Historically a happy healthy population adds more to the overall economy because they are able to work, pay taxes, pay off debts, etc.
America really needs to take some inspiration from Europe and Canada, because at least in Canada right now, our debt is a minor hiccup compared to the American recession. Oh an we don't die of drating tooth infections, and the cost to get that fixed is less that $100 |
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 gbrzeatetee
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
174 Posts
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Sunday, September 11, 2011 12:12:55 PM
@OldOllie: I agree. Just because the current system let a few honest people die in pain in order to save a few bucks it doesn't mean that we should become a socialist country.
It's a reminder to people that they better work hard and become a congressman if they want good healthcare. |
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OutWest
Male, 50-59, Western US
548 Posts
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Sunday, September 11, 2011 10:45:20 AM
... This is the reason that we should have Government run healthcare.
In fact the government should make all decisions for us, and take care of us. We shouldn't have to work, or cook our meals, or raise our children, or pay electricity bills. God forbid, someone might die without their electricity.
Oh... and pay my car expenses, and deliver groceries, mow the yard of the house the Government provides to me.
Then, we can all be equal, and enjoy life as the Government intended.
Thank you for this story, and I am sorry he had to suffer to save us all.
Peace and Love.... |
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 Jade_Phoenix
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
383 Posts
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Sunday, September 11, 2011 9:04:41 AM
@ abrxax I have been there. I miscarried in December of 2009, and because I began hemorrhaging so badly went to the emergency room though I had no medical insurance. They put a port into my veins but never hooked me up to an IV. The ran tons of diagnostic tests and sent me home with nothing more than a sympathetic pat on the back and the feeling that I had done nothing more than waste four hours of my life. When the bill arrived ($8,000), I nearly shat myself. $8,000 to be told that nature would have to take it's course and I would have to heal (physically and mentally) on my own. |
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 jeepjones
Male, 30-39, Canada
534 Posts
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Sunday, September 11, 2011 8:54:31 AM
The Canadian Health Care System doesn't look so bad now does it. |
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 slut_etta
Female, 50-59, Southern US
2130 Posts
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Sunday, September 11, 2011 8:16:12 AM
i always thought this was an urban myth until i typed records on a guy with the same problem. he was in ICU in a coma for ages; not sure if he survived either. |
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Damshek
Male, 18-29, Asia
45 Posts
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Sunday, September 11, 2011 8:11:55 AM
I'm sorry, but who in his right mind would choose pain killers over antibiotics? |
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 beternal
Male, 18-29, Europe
1848 Posts
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Sunday, September 11, 2011 7:31:58 AM
America: If you can't afford the healthcare... We'll let you die
NHS FTW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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 insane_ai
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
668 Posts
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Sunday, September 11, 2011 6:22:32 AM
There is no excuse for this. There are free dental clinics in Cincinnati just like every other major city in America. There are also dental colleges that do work for free. Many gorcery stores and drug stores are competing with free or less than $5 prescriptions. If that isn't enough, there are plenty of churches in the area that would help someone like this.
There is no right to health care or any other service for that matter. He could have gotten free care from those who openly volunteer it. He was too stupid to ask for help and paid the price.
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 gwardog
Female, 18-29, Western US
30 Posts
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Sunday, September 11, 2011 6:02:52 AM
Well, poo. I haven't brushed my teeth in years. Maybe I should start.
Naaah. |
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 kairobert
Male, 18-29, Europe
1634 Posts
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Sunday, September 11, 2011 5:56:02 AM
"how sad... when people in the first world die from tooth infection."
USA is a first world country? |
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 paddy215
Male, 18-29, Europe
1547 Posts
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Sunday, September 11, 2011 5:51:11 AM
"But ya couldn't he have gone to the ER?"
"Not only was he seen in a hospital with no money, he could have gotten his antibiotics for little or no money."
"He could have gone to any emergency room, been seen by a doctor, and gotten a prescription."
From the article:
"When his face started swelling and his head began to ache, Willis went to the emergency room, where he received prescriptions for antibiotics and pain medications. Willis COULDN'T AFFORD both"
FFS, if you're too lazy to read the article then don't comment on it. You're opinion is worthless. |
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 abrxax
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
69 Posts
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Sunday, September 11, 2011 5:15:45 AM
There is more dignity getting robbed at gun point. At least you know what they want. |
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abrxax
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
69 Posts
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Sunday, September 11, 2011 5:12:59 AM
Anny one ever gone to an American ER with out money or health insurance. Firs you get a bill from the ER. Then you get a bill from the DR. Then you get a bill form the nurse. Got tests done. Thats a separate bill. all told your in the hole for 5 to 6 thousand $$. Ever look at a insurance statement? The ER billed $1,000. Blue cross pays.....$200 Dr billed $2,000 for setting the bone. Blue cross pays......$800 But goddamnit that Dr wants all of his $2,000 from you. He and his office will make sure that you can't get a good job cause they will destroy your credit rating. They will sue you to get it. Thats what min wage gets you. Too rich for help but too poor to pay. And that antibiotic was more like $300-500 range. Pain killers are cheap. 30 day supply of generic hydrocodone is like $20-30 |
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 Grumpdock
Male, 13-17, Europe
323 Posts
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Sunday, September 11, 2011 4:54:52 AM
We will things like this happen more and more..? |
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