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The Earth is Still Warming

Hits: 10668 | Rating: (2.4) | Category: Science | Added by: techgeek07
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Essersmith
Male, 18-29, Europe
 273 Posts
Monday, August 22, 2011 8:16:01 AM
TypicalJerk: "Politicians invented the global warming hoax to scare people into looking for alternate fuels"

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Translation: Planning ahead is bad!

Altaru
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 3500 Posts
Sunday, August 21, 2011 3:38:33 PM
Newton kept his beliefs out of his observations. He didn't claim god was science, to him science was science and god was god. That's why Newton's credible, and this guy... Isn't.

It's like what happens when two people look at a sheet of data. Say (as an example) there's an increase in people being struck by lightning: someone who looks at it objectively would want more data, want to do more experiments, and would want to come to a definitive answer if one exists before making any concrete decisions about the data.

Someone who puts beliefs first would come up with a conclusion he wants to be true, then perform the "science" that would get his result if he could.

It's not exactly saying that this guy's argument is WRONG, per se, but it does mean that you should take what he says vs. what many other more credible sources say with a grain of salt. It's like asking someone with a history of losing bets who he would bet on in the next match.

Altaru
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 3500 Posts
Sunday, August 21, 2011 3:25:03 PM
I'm not saying I disagree with the article, but isn't the fact that he was wrong in the past and that he believes in intellegent design an ad hominem attack? By the same logic, one could say: "Newton was into some really crazy cults that believed in the supernatural. Because of this, Newtonian mechanics are wrong."

Believing in intelligent design and trying to call it science shows one important thing about any "scientist:" He puts beliefs before evidence and facts. Which means his "science" needs to be taken with a grain of salt.

Evolution is a scientifically observable fact. Intelligent design, as stated in the article, is glossed over creationism. It's not science, it's the red-headed step-child of what happens when someone tries to mix science and religion, two things that rarely, if ever, mix well.

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 25760 Posts
Sunday, August 21, 2011 12:58:58 PM
vv Lolz! It's typical "lefty logic" @paddy215.

paddy215
Male, 18-29, Europe
 1674 Posts
Sunday, August 21, 2011 9:50:23 AM
"It’s clear after reading just a few words that this article is hugely biased."

Did anyone else notice the irony in this sentence?

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 25760 Posts
Sunday, August 21, 2011 8:11:22 AM
There was a record heatwave here, it broke the high temp record from 1904.

Question: Was the heat in 1904 caused by AGW?
Answer: AGW is a myth, based on fake statistics.

@Baalthy: "...warming as fast as the AGW models predicted." But that's too long eh? So it gets shortened. I'm not saying this guy is right, I AM saying the AGW model is still wrong, disregardless, and THAT is the truth!

SvampeBob
Male, 18-29, Europe
 3088 Posts
Sunday, August 21, 2011 6:09:15 AM

kairobert
Male, 18-29, Europe
 1634 Posts
Sunday, August 21, 2011 5:01:22 AM
"No, I will believe it when these "thousands of scientists" can actually prove it. If it is because of us then there will be proof. So far there hasn't been any....even with all of these people looking feverishly (get it) for it. The fact of the matter is that the real crisis is an oil shortage. Politicians invented the global warming hoax to scare people into looking for alternate fuels. Its as simple as that. No one gave a drat about alternate fuels until the global warming myth started being spread as fact. I am all for alternate fuels, but I am also against lying to the public."

What you are saying is the equivalent to "no let's keep burning these women, you can't prove that they are not witches, and until you do (which I will ignore as I have done up until now) I will keep burning them".

How can you be aware of bias and impartiality and still not realize how biased everyone is about climate change?

kairobert
Male, 18-29, Europe
 1634 Posts
Sunday, August 21, 2011 4:57:59 AM
What? People telling untruths that support their own self-interests? Holy bias and wishful thinking, Batman!

cuthere2
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
 314 Posts
Sunday, August 21, 2011 4:35:26 AM
Yep, OP of this obviously ignored the facts, and felt it was ok to lie about the content. Why am I not surprised?

Oldfrt
Male, 50-59, Midwest US
 656 Posts
Saturday, August 20, 2011 10:54:20 PM
A biased article about a biased paper. They may as well be saying "I know you are, but what am I?" at each other.

Thetas
Male, 18-29, Western US
 1552 Posts
Saturday, August 20, 2011 10:52:29 PM
"...the real crisis is an oil shortage. Politicians invented the global warming hoax to scare people..."



CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 17177 Posts
Saturday, August 20, 2011 10:35:58 PM
skullgrin; [quote">....the moon (is getting) closer to earth[/quote">

Actually the moon is moving further away from earth about an inch a year. Proof

apedrana
Male, 18-29, Australia
 141 Posts
Saturday, August 20, 2011 8:56:26 PM
skullgrin, grow a brain and read a book. hopefully something written on climate change, and mans effect. next you'l pull out its only a scientific "theory" argument, like a typical ignorant turd. Don't breed and die already, and leave the earth to people who care about it.

Cajun247
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 10283 Posts
Saturday, August 20, 2011 7:14:34 PM
correct that political


that should say "the political left"

TypicalJerk
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 534 Posts
Saturday, August 20, 2011 7:09:20 PM
c.. carbon into the atmosphere. Plugging your car in only piles on top of that. Earth is a living organism. Do you know what happens to your lungs when Carbon is introduced into that system? Have you seen a smoker's lungs? Sure, Earth might not have been a heavy smoker until the last century, but it will take it's toll.

TypicalJerk
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 534 Posts
Saturday, August 20, 2011 7:04:33 PM
--No, I will believe it when these "thousands of scientists" can actually prove it. If it is because of us then there will be proof. So far there hasn't been any....even with all of these people looking feverishly (get it) for it. The fact of the matter is that the real crisis is an oil shortage. Politicians invented the global warming hoax to scare people into looking for alternate fuels. Its as simple as that. No one gave a drat about alternate fuels until the global warming myth started being spread as fact. I am all for alternate fuels, but I am also against lying to the public.--

That's like saying thousands of scientists don't believe in go, but there is no significant proof. An oil shortage is not going to drastically effect your world, (maybe the means by which you live) aside the fact that there is mass world war over it (oh, wait). Anyway, It's not like plugging your car in is going to reduce pollution. The source of the power is still releasing tons of

Cajun247
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 10283 Posts
Saturday, August 20, 2011 7:04:27 PM
the earth is actually getting closer to the sun


That's debatable one side predicts that Earth will be ejected from it's current orbit another predicts that it will be swallowed.

but I am also against lying to the public.


I accuse you of doing the same thing, but the political right in America IS correct that political is trying to use the wrong tool to solve a problem.

skullgrin
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 915 Posts
Saturday, August 20, 2011 6:53:48 PM
"That doesn't mean the Earth is getting closer."

the earth is actually getting closer to the sun, and the moon closer to earth, but its so miniscule that we'll be long extinct before it does any harm

skullgrin
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 915 Posts
Saturday, August 20, 2011 6:52:40 PM
So, basically, people like Skullgrin won't believe it until a biodome is made, and then intentionally fed carbon emissions and then the greenery reduced. And then, even after that, if the results are conclusive; 'oh, no, that was a controlled environment and they made it do that. .'
I'd rather be dumb than as ignorant and bull-headed as you are.



No, I will believe it when these "thousands of scientists" can actually prove it. If it is because of us then there will be proof. So far there hasn't been any....even with all of these people looking feverishly (get it) for it. The fact of the matter is that the real crisis is an oil shortage. Politicians invented the global warming hoax to scare people into looking for alternate fuels. Its as simple as that. No one gave a drat about alternate fuels until the global warming myth started being spread as fact. I am all for alternate fuels, but I am also against lying to the public.

Cajun247
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 10283 Posts
Saturday, August 20, 2011 6:31:43 PM
gravity pulls things closer to whatever has said gravity.
Earth is caught in the sun's gravity.



That doesn't mean the Earth is getting closer.

collegebound
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 3740 Posts
Saturday, August 20, 2011 5:29:54 PM
im not going to look at this link...

the sun has gravity.
gravity pulls things closer to whatever has said gravity.
Earth is caught in the sun's gravity.
end of story.

I'll go on record stating that we as people don't help our situation in the slightest what with the ozone layer and all the pollution and stuff...

DShephard
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 1597 Posts
Saturday, August 20, 2011 4:40:50 PM
I don't think Global Warming is caused by us, it's a natural cycle the Earth goes through every so often.

We should still do our best to stop pollution, not to ward off impending doom of the heat death of the planet, but it just makes everything better off for us.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 17177 Posts
Saturday, August 20, 2011 4:37:41 PM
Big woop, their livelihoods are at stake of course they are not going to like the report.

Discover, Omni, and magazines like them are the tabloids of science news.

TypicalJerk
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 534 Posts
Saturday, August 20, 2011 4:06:04 PM
So, basically, people like Skullgrin won't believe it until a biodome is made, and then intentionally fed carbon emissions and then the greenery reduced. And then, even after that, if the results are conclusive; 'oh, no, that was a controlled environment and they made it do that. .'
I'd rather be dumb than as ignorant and bull-headed as you are.

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