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Felonius Monk Has Something To Say To Obama

Hits: 14058 | Rating: (3.6) | Category: News & Politics | Added by: CrakrJak
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Suicism
Male, 18-29, Western US
 3672 Posts
Monday, August 22, 2011 10:42:45 PM
I don't see how this is directed at Obama so much as it is the average "n*gger." (see I put it in quotation marks and even censored the "I" so as to not only accurately represent the frequent utterings of our feature orator, but also avoid the misappropriated label of "i am a racist!")

- Is it 'cause I'm White?

Cajun247
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 10272 Posts
Sunday, August 21, 2011 10:03:55 AM
Wait a minute, I said earlier that I only wanted to get rid of entitlements for old age. Nevermind then #3 would be a bad idea.

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 25660 Posts
Sunday, August 21, 2011 8:28:57 AM
I find it hypocritical to support politicians who want to strip future generations of benefits - @madest

Like Obama for example? HIS idea is to cut a half-trillion from Medicare/cade and shift it to ObamaCare, eh? So... you're an admitted hypocrite then?
@AJ and @CJ have schooled you on what IS insurance, LOLZ!

@madest seriously: you do the SAME DAMN THING every single drating topic! You say something stupid (Medicare is not insurance) THEN when proven wrong you slander (teabagger, hypocrite)

SAME DAMN THING EVERY TIME!

Grow up man! Act your age FFS! You're worse than @PMarren.


Cajun247
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 10272 Posts
Saturday, August 20, 2011 11:09:44 PM
taxes would just lead to a total collapse of SS


That to me would only be problematic if it happened before the people me and Lee Doren referred to got their money back.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 17130 Posts
Saturday, August 20, 2011 10:27:18 PM
Cajun: I'm saying that the situation with 1099s is already bad enough, compounding that with W-2 earners not paying their FICA taxes would just lead to a total collapse of SS.

Cajun247
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 10272 Posts
Saturday, August 20, 2011 6:50:55 PM
@3:45 of this video is part of my argument in a nutshell

Cajun247
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 10272 Posts
Saturday, August 20, 2011 5:25:13 PM
SS doesn't have a broken track record.


Did you just overlook the fact that it has been borrowed against?

@Crakr

I'm sorry but you're comment about #3 doesn't make since. I suggest people stop paying a specific tax and you say it will lead to self-employed having to pay higher taxes? This is also on top of the fact that they don't pay their share. I don't quite follow.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 17130 Posts
Saturday, August 20, 2011 5:06:44 PM
Cajun: I could agree with your #1 and #2 points. However, #3 would lead to a debacle worse than we are in right now, in fact the proliferation of 1099 employees is hurting our country because 1099 employers don't pay their part into FICA as they should be doing. That then leaves 1099 employees 'out in the wind' having to pay higher self-employment taxes, which is not fair.

madest
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 6458 Posts
Saturday, August 20, 2011 5:04:01 PM
But I should not be required by law to pay into a system with a broken track record

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SS doesn't have a broken track record.

Subushie
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 1643 Posts
Saturday, August 20, 2011 3:12:16 PM
The country is slowly realizing the real trouble we are in. The debt situation is becoming very real very fast. Unfortunately we realized it too late, we will not be able to fix the situation we are in; the world will save its self soon from our debt by switching the World reserve currency from the dollar. Then the avalanche of debt our government has piled over our heads will collapse in a wave of suffering like this country has never seen.

Also- I love this guys passion in this video
Also- very bad song choice for the intro if you're trying to spread a message =/

Cajun247
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 10272 Posts
Saturday, August 20, 2011 12:12:19 PM
@CrakrJak

I'm afraid this is where we simply disagree. I do not believe that fact that you are at least 60 years old entitles you to a tax payer funded retirement program. I WILL concede that the people who have put money into the program deserve to reap the benefits plus interest. But I should not be required by law to pay into a system with a broken track record, thus I propose three things:
1)Pass a law that forbids the government from borrowing from the trust fund for any expense unrelated to OASDI.
2)At the same time mandate that the government pay back the money it has borrowed within a specific timeframe plus interest.
3)Amend the tax code so that people are no longer required to pay into the system.
This way people who've payed into the system for most of their lives get to reap the benefit, and those who do not want to entrust with retirement no longer have to pay for it.

number1man
Male, 13-17, Eastern US
 240 Posts
Saturday, August 20, 2011 9:58:08 AM
watched a couple of the other videos and once you see past his language this guy has a pretty good view on the way things work and what needs to be done

thehitcher
Male, 18-29, Western US
 237 Posts
Saturday, August 20, 2011 9:42:00 AM
ive never seen this guy before....this guy is the shizz b

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 17130 Posts
Saturday, August 20, 2011 8:43:50 AM
Cajun: A lot of seniors also worked hard, had their pensions screwed over and now need SS to live on because they have nothing else. Seniors should be able to enjoy their later years. Not many seniors are as rich as you seem to believe, most are barely getting by.

Cajun247
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 10272 Posts
Saturday, August 20, 2011 5:57:23 AM
However those of retirement age that are healthy shouldn't be forced to work the rest of their lives, that's just inhumane.


There are plenty of people 60+ who still hold jobs. No one is pitting a gun up to their heads. I'd only find it inhumane if they're being coerced to do so with a terminal condition. To my point there are people who have retired on a private account/401k and are doing just fine.


Some people never get a high paying job to save enough money to invest, some become disabled before they earn enough, some kids parents die before they are old enough to take care of themselves, that is what OASDI (aka, Social Security) is there for.


All of which is perfectly acceptable but honestly just leave out OA part.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 17130 Posts
Friday, August 19, 2011 8:59:38 PM
Cajun: Some form of safety net is necessary, Some people never get a high paying job to save enough money to invest, some become disabled before they earn enough, some kids parents die before they are old enough to take care of themselves, that is what OASDI (aka, Social Security) is there for.

Most people that apply for it, and deserve the benefits, are as a matter of routine denied multiple times and have to seek legal help to get SS. It's not as easy as you might think, it's stressful, many become depressed, some even suicidal over the wait which can be years.

I wouldn't wish the bureaucratic mess that I had to deal with on anyone and the only ones that get rich are the lawyers.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 17130 Posts
Friday, August 19, 2011 8:38:36 PM
Cajun; I don't have a problem with 'means testing', meaning that millionaires don't need SS, nor should they be awarded it. However those of retirement age that are healthy shouldn't be forced to work the rest of their lives, that's just inhumane.

Even if your kids don't pay for yours, they should still contribute, if for nothing else then because some people never have kids to help them.

PrKitty
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 371 Posts
Friday, August 19, 2011 8:07:26 PM
I enjoyed watching that.

lashaspice
Female, 30-39, Midwest US
 95 Posts
Friday, August 19, 2011 7:47:11 PM
Every time I watch this I laugh. It is Epic!!!

Errand_boy
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 623 Posts
Friday, August 19, 2011 7:00:19 PM
Didn't think I was going to like this, but damn! That dude rocked it the f*ck out, sweet!



Cajun247
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 10272 Posts
Friday, August 19, 2011 2:24:56 PM
You and I know BOTH know Crakr that government programs tend to be misused, as you and Auburnjunky have pointed out. Which is why oppose OASDI. Understandibly there are people who GENUINELY NEED HELP from the govt that the private sector cannot provide for. I will not be upset if my tax dollars are given to them. I find it sad though that an entire generation of people have invested in an abused system, and because of it have little or no financial security, especially when there were much better options available to them.

Cajun247
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 10272 Posts
Friday, August 19, 2011 2:17:38 PM
your kids will pay for yours


I don't want them to, nor do I need them to.


there is nothing unfair in that


Really? There's nothing unfair about money coming out of my paycheck and going towards people who are healthy and fit and can easily hold a job themselves. I can understand someone who's wheelchair bound or mentally ill, but not some 60 yr old who can easily make his/her own living.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 17130 Posts
Friday, August 19, 2011 2:12:42 PM
madest: I think you need to re-read the Tea Party platform again, and not the versions twisted and spun by Daily KOS and HuffPo that you've read.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 17130 Posts
Friday, August 19, 2011 2:09:27 PM
Cajun: Why do I need to put my money into a government retirement program? Everyone has different needs, not everyone is going to retire hell not everyone should.


In a perfect world I would agree, We don't live in a perfect world though. Restructuring will take time, it would not be fair for those that've paid into FICA to lose those benefits. The system can be made to be viable but there is no instant fix.

I paid for my elders SS, you're paying for your elders, your kids will pay for yours, there is nothing unfair in that.

Fatninja01
Male, 18-29, Australia
 24615 Posts
Friday, August 19, 2011 2:00:26 PM
im noticing IAB is really focused on the America Debt... they will just increase the Tax. All sorted.

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