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 Kickan
Male, 18-29, Europe
 227 Posts
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Saturday, August 20, 2011 9:10:37 AM
Im guessing someone allready pointed this ous, but "Anders Breivik" is the name of the killer "Utoya" is the name of the Island. |
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 Groogle
Male, 30-39, Canada
2180 Posts
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Thursday, August 18, 2011 12:54:25 AM
I think it's pretty obvious that the guy didn't had any friends. That's why he's happier now, he feels like he has lots and lots of little cop friends protecting him.
I hope that someday someone will notice that there is something wrong with this world that actually lead to people to do stupid things like that and do something about it.
I just don't believe in the theory that wants everyone to believe that Anders Breivik Utoya is simply evil so that's just what he do. There's something deeper going on. |
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 Student_Law
Male, 30-39, Europe
966 Posts
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Wednesday, August 17, 2011 12:52:41 PM
The Future of the Global Muslim Population |
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Student_Law
Male, 30-39, Europe
966 Posts
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Wednesday, August 17, 2011 12:44:14 PM
@Gerry and others, here you can find the correct current numbers plus future estimate of Muslims living in Europe.
There are 3 % Muslims in Norway. By 2030 the number will be 6,5 % - where it will start to stabilize because of the fertility of both Muslims and non- Muslims will equalize because of assimilation.
Numbers are from New York's "PEW Research Center" where some of the finest scientists in the world work thouroughly on cultural questions. This is a top source for information.
Gerry. These thoughts of and "Muslim overtake" are extremely dangerous. Someone said that the Jews was taking over the world back in 1930 - and someone still believe it. From today, the European Muslim population will increase by only 2 % until 2030.
The thought of a "minority tako- |
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Student_Law
Male, 30-39, Europe
966 Posts
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Wednesday, August 17, 2011 12:31:27 PM
-ver is unrealistic and paranoid.
I know im saying a lot here, but as a responsible citizen of a nation struggling with a growing misconseption of the world, and reality, i find it to be my responsability to stop these thoughts when i see them. So the facts are at least available, even though i know that most fanaticts refuse to consider them.
Fanaticts will be fanatics though, still the truth must be conveyed as often as possible.
There is no "Muslim danger" to Europe. The only danger is in some peoples heads. |
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ChrisMunich
Male, 18-29, Europe
383 Posts
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Wednesday, August 17, 2011 11:42:34 AM
@Gerry: that's a common misconception. There's roughyl 53 million muslims in the EUROPEAN CONTINENT. The European Union (which has just over 500 million inhabitants), has around 15 million (give or take 3 million depending on the study) muslims according to data from the BBC, Soest, the EUMC, the telegraph, Deutsche Welle and the CFR. France has the highest percentage of around 10%, whilst some EU nations have around 1-2%, this balances to around 4% of the EU population. The data you've viewed is frequently used to misrepresent the actual numbers. |
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 Flashpacker
Male, 18-29, Europe
652 Posts
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Wednesday, August 17, 2011 10:44:59 AM
Why the hell can't i see this in Norway? that's ridiculous.. |
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 Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
25652 Posts
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Wednesday, August 17, 2011 8:12:16 AM
@ ChrisMunich - 15 muslims? try three times that number. 53 million muslims in EU according to net sources {Wiki, BBC news }. They currently make up 10% of the population of France. Considering the short time they've had to infest europe it would seem that withing 50 years they will outnumber you and therefore have the political clout to change your governments to Sharia Law . Which has already started in Britton
At least, thats the conspiracy theory, right?
If you buy into that or not, there are still a lot more of them than you thought. |
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 ScaryMeadow
Female, 18-29, Europe
192 Posts
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Tuesday, August 16, 2011 9:26:34 PM
"The uploader has not made this video available in your country."
Dude... I'm Norwegian. |
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 ExtraCredit
Male, 50-59, Midwest US
435 Posts
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Tuesday, August 16, 2011 8:01:15 PM
Ah, sweet memories.
I hope this is the last breath of fresh outside air this bastard ever inhales. |
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 Fatninja01
Male, 18-29, Australia
23995 Posts
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Tuesday, August 16, 2011 2:11:50 PM
he seems to like the attention |
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Student_Law
Male, 30-39, Europe
966 Posts
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Tuesday, August 16, 2011 10:12:01 AM
Yes they are Gerry, hide your kids, hide your wife. |
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Censorship
Male, 18-29, Europe
75 Posts
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Tuesday, August 16, 2011 9:54:48 AM
He was brought back onto the island in order to recreate the event... And his name is Breivik, the island is called Utoya. |
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 greenbasterd
Male, 18-29, Canada
2132 Posts
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Tuesday, August 16, 2011 9:50:02 AM
mcgovern maybe in ure neck of the woods.. i pay at least a buck here in Canadia.. and this is Norway the place where prison is like a resort spa, there allowed outside.. i saw this one clip once.. the murderer got to use a chainsaw lol.. but i think they have a higher success rate of rehabilitating people.. so they may be on to something. they a very clam and peaceful people.. im part Norwegian and part french.. so i am a very calm @$$hole!! ha!!! |
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ChrisMunich
Male, 18-29, Europe
383 Posts
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Tuesday, August 16, 2011 8:51:46 AM
@Gerry1of1: Far, far from it. There's about 15 million Muslims in the EU. Let's be generous and say it's 20 (which is a clear overestimate), even then that's just under 4% of the EU population...hardly taking over, now is it? |
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 canusuck
Male, 30-39, Canada
595 Posts
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Tuesday, August 16, 2011 8:30:44 AM
Even if he is crazy, he is still a majority of one. |
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Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
25652 Posts
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Tuesday, August 16, 2011 8:08:32 AM
Student Law - "He believed that Muslims are going to take over and control Europe."
Aren't they?
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 McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
10249 Posts
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Tuesday, August 16, 2011 7:38:49 AM
One decent high caliber bullet will cost you .30 cents. What does this cost? |
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 Aedran
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
295 Posts
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Tuesday, August 16, 2011 6:51:57 AM
He's a nutter. It has little to do with race,religion, or political views and more to do with the fact he's insane. Really, if we are going to blame it on anything other than he is crazy, then every single race, religion, and political party should be imprisoned to protect our well being because EVERY race, religion, and political party has had their share of crazies.
Sheesh people. |
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yoda141
Male, 18-29, S. America
250 Posts
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Tuesday, August 16, 2011 6:43:41 AM
Right wing? checked. Hardcore Christian? checked. proud gun owner? checked. So, which ultimate sentence are right wing hardcore christian proud gun owners so adept to? |
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Student_Law
Male, 30-39, Europe
966 Posts
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Tuesday, August 16, 2011 6:36:20 AM
The caption is not right. Utoya is the name of the island. Also, in Norwegian the "o" in "Utoya" should have an arrow through it - allthough the page will turn it into wierd symbols.
The killer's name is Anders Behring Breivik.
"Anders Behring Breivik returns to Island of Murder" would be the correct caption. |
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 lukas1051
Male, 18-29, Europe
3420 Posts
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Tuesday, August 16, 2011 6:05:34 AM
Ugh, trust everyone to get all worked up over the fact he's a Christian. His religion had little to do with it, if anything we should be worried about the extremist right wing views he holds - very reminiscent of many parties now gaining popularity in Europe such as the BNP or UKIP. |
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 Listypoos
Male, 30-39, Europe
1479 Posts
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Tuesday, August 16, 2011 4:38:12 AM
@ChrisMunich, I agree, the Norwegians have come across as measured and dignified in how they've handled this.
As for people asking what use is it to have him retrace his actions on the Island...in addition to the reasons already stated on the Norwegian legal system, there will also need to have as much information as possible on timings, movements etc. to that the police response can be better analysed. The more detailed the information the better in any scenario like this, it's not enough to say well people died and we got someone for it.... that tells you pretty much nothing, and certainly not enough lessons learned to input back into armed response training should a similar incident happen again in the future. |
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ChrisMunich
Male, 18-29, Europe
383 Posts
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Tuesday, August 16, 2011 4:04:39 AM
It seems to be infuriating to some people that the Norwegians still aren't shouting for the death penalty, is it really that hard to understand that some societies (in my view more advanced ones) disagree with the principle of the death penatly? I think the Norwegian societies reaction to the tragedy has been incredibly impressive and inspiring, it's brought them together instead of apart, they aren't pointing fingers or going on tirades against one another, they are trying to help each other; even the politicians agreed to work together (somewhat) and aren't using these events as a platform. Norway isn't perfect, but I am definitely impressed. I was born in Sweden so Norwegians should understand this is hard for me to admit! ;) |
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 Silverstone
Male, 18-29, Europe
17 Posts
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Tuesday, August 16, 2011 3:04:07 AM
"Sachi001: I wonder how the Norwegian families feel about not having the death penalty now?"
Still against it :) |
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