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Finally, Some Good Anti-War Graffiti [Pic]

Hits: 27994 | Rating: (3.0) | Category: News & Politics | Added by: ilovmiguel
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Solvent
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 2855 Posts
Wednesday, August 03, 2011 8:06:33 PM
A good soldier is a bad human being.

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 24824 Posts
Wednesday, August 03, 2011 8:06:31 PM
Consider this: TEACHER training involves a lot of blindly following directions, being yelled at and/or punished if they question THE STATUS QUO, and by the end of it the TEACHER is able to STAB PEOPLE IN THE BACK without a second thought.

fify @dragonlord! LOLZ! What you say can be applied to almost anything. At least you're not a 'mindreader' like @collegebound... I think the distinction you point out is what makes this vile in the first place.

sutra46
Female, 40-49, Asia
 2466 Posts
Wednesday, August 03, 2011 8:04:41 PM
Lordastral is on the head, it's what the training is designed to do to make the system work.
Turn a normal young man or a woman into a killing machine. Killing other human beings is going against our nature. It's an anomaly that is why we are horrified of the murders in civilian life.

Spaztazoid
Female, 18-29, Canada
 152 Posts
Wednesday, August 03, 2011 8:02:46 PM
Nice!

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 24824 Posts
Wednesday, August 03, 2011 8:00:32 PM
vv The same could be said of a successful 'civilian' @lordastral, we're all part of a group, eh?

I doubt @madest is being sarcastic @Listypoos. He's played the "Canadian" card in seriousness on MANY occasions. In another thread I called him out on his accusations (serious ones) of 'racism'. The person had said NOTHING about 'race' but @madest full-out accuses him of it. And then he comes up with this? NOT funny, is he trolling or an outright drat-wad; that's not supposed to be allowed here.

I'm sick of his trolling. I'm this close (holds fingers mere milimeters apart!) to ignoring him utterly.

Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
 33910 Posts
Wednesday, August 03, 2011 8:00:30 PM

@ yoda141 - there is no oil in Afganastan.

just sayin

Dragonlord
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 742 Posts
Wednesday, August 03, 2011 8:00:00 PM
I would argue that this is saying that people in the military have their minds REMOVED, not that they have none to begin with. It's a big distinction, and I think somewhat accurate.

Consider this: military training involves a lot of blindly following directions, being yelled at and/or punished if they question anybody, and by the end of it the soldier is able to kill people without a second thought.

How many intelligent, critical thinkers do you know for whom these traits apply?

yoda141
Male, 18-29, S. America
 268 Posts
Wednesday, August 03, 2011 7:53:46 PM
This is accurate, at least in the U.S. Go and ask a soldier what is the U.S army fighting for/against. They'll just come up with abstract like "for freedom" "for democracy" "for your rights" "against terrorism". Then again, so would most of U.S citizens. The U.S military is fighting for cheap oil and in order to prevent a weapon overproduction.

KittenCereal
Female, 18-29, Western US
 951 Posts
Wednesday, August 03, 2011 7:52:49 PM
"Of course, you could interpret this as all soldiers are stupid. But that isn't what it means. What you are seeing is the stripping of individuality from the recruit. The successful soldier isn't an individual, he is part of a group.

Try to look at art from a less literal perspective."

It's nice to see someone with a brain on this site.

lordastral
Male, 30-39, Western US
 45 Posts
Wednesday, August 03, 2011 7:44:23 PM
Of course, you could interpret this as all soldiers are stupid. But that isn't what it means. What you are seeing is the stripping of individuality from the recruit. The successful soldier isn't an individual, he is part of a group.

Try to look at art from a less literal perspective.

Listypoos
Male, 30-39, Europe
 2578 Posts
Wednesday, August 03, 2011 7:40:02 PM
5cats, I got that you were being sarcastic.

but i think you missed madest being sarcastic back...but that's just my reading of what he put, i may be wrong.

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 24824 Posts
Wednesday, August 03, 2011 7:36:51 PM
@madest: shut up, racist troll! The 'yay' is lower-case: it's SARCASM idiot. Cheezus @madest just banhammer yourself already! You want to talk about being 'shameless'? YOU? LOLZ!

collegebound
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 3740 Posts
Wednesday, August 03, 2011 7:31:36 PM
"Oh look! Someone has called our servicemen and women brainless!"

look at it like this...they dont know the REAL reason/s they are fighting for...to protect the rich and wealthy people who dont really give a rats ass about them...

as listy said. i know a few people who are serving myself who would laugh at this...one of them in particular may have even taken this picture :| get your heads out of your asses and make fun of some black people or something...

madest
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 6457 Posts
Wednesday, August 03, 2011 7:27:41 PM
Oh sure! Bring the troops home, allow AQ and others to gain strength unhindered & attack the USA directly! yay!

------------
Just like a Canadian to cheer on an attack on the US. Have you no shame?

Sathon
Male, 18-29, Canada
 247 Posts
Wednesday, August 03, 2011 7:26:45 PM
Good to know that saying that my uncle who was killed in Afghanistan last year was a brainless idiot is considered "good graffiti" these days.

drat you.

Listypoos
Male, 30-39, Europe
 2578 Posts
Wednesday, August 03, 2011 7:24:34 PM
people take the piss out of other people's professions all the time... why should the military be ring-fenced and holy?

people laugh at the IQ level of service station attendants, of walmart employees, of realtors.... or pick on lawyers for being devils etc.

the military shouldn't be untouchable when it comes to humour.... every serviceman that i've served with, both UK and US would see the funny side of this. I appreciate basket that you don't... but lots will and do. it's nothing to be outraged about... it's a funny cartoon.

Listypoos
Male, 30-39, Europe
 2578 Posts
Wednesday, August 03, 2011 7:21:59 PM
is it though?

ok, so some people think all servicemen are thick....is that really offensive?
If you're a soldier and you know you're not thick... then what's the point in getting offended or trying to put someone straight on it?

my role in intelligence required lots of qualifications.... most officer roles also require lots of qualifications... the roles that don't require academic qualifications are filled with all sorts of technical training that is probably degree level if you put it all on paper exams... even the infantry isn't what it was, ther'es high tech comms systems to learn, theirs intelligence systems to learn like the loce system i helped build, there's technical training in weapons, enemies weapons, vehicles, computers, etc. etc.

my point being... those who are soldiers and are not stupid... know they're not stupid, so would see this as amusing. so the cartoonist got it wrong, but so do a lot of the people who have never served...


5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 24824 Posts
Wednesday, August 03, 2011 7:19:30 PM
ONE'S *snort!* who are smart???
Y'all shure yuh speaks Engrish?

Oh sure! Bring the troops home, allow AQ and others to gain strength unhindered & attack the USA directly! yay!

If you were smart, you'd know why the doctrine of Sun Tzu was followed EXPERTLY by the Bush administration and the coalition forces.

(better double check my post for spelling and punctuation, lolz! I'm not normally a grammer-nazi but saying "We are the one's who are smart" is just too funny!)

MCMXCIII
Male, 18-29, Asia
 354 Posts
Wednesday, August 03, 2011 7:13:18 PM
"You think we fight for freedom? It's just a slaughter, man." - Animal Mother.
Human lives are not expendable, and heroes are not disposable. Wars are abominations,and you have to be a brainwashed sheeple to support it.

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 24824 Posts
Wednesday, August 03, 2011 7:12:49 PM
Welcome @happyhelgeso! Been here two weeks and this evoked a comment eh? Well good! Feel free to blast (politely) away!

If you type the f-word it comes up "drat". There's other words not allowed too, it's part of the charm of IAB!!! Lolz!

Spider_sol
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 1454 Posts
Wednesday, August 03, 2011 7:12:19 PM
5Cats, people can be lefty and pro-soldier/anti-war. In fact I would say most lefties are. We are the one's who are smart enough to make the distinction.

If you think I'm wrong just remember the "Support our troops" crap? Righties kept saying that but lefties kept reiterating "We DO support the troops, that's WHY we want to stop the war and bring them home"

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 24824 Posts
Wednesday, August 03, 2011 7:07:14 PM
We are not related to those problems

@NNoamfer: are you sure you live in Israel? Where terrorists kill children, rockets fall on civilians and 5 countries have attempted to invade? That place?

FYI: it's a 'global villiage' now, we are ALL involved, eh? Look at the USA: they thought the Taliban in Afghanistan was not their concern... big mistake!

@basketkase: great minds DO think alike! lolz! I totally agree with you.

It's not about governments (I forget who suggested that) it's insulting to individual soldiers: it implys that they have their brains removed in order to BECOME soldiers - just like the haircut & the helmet it's part of their training. Bullocks to that!

happyhelgeso
Male, 18-29, Western US
 2 Posts
Wednesday, August 03, 2011 6:59:25 PM
this is drating insulting.

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 24824 Posts
Wednesday, August 03, 2011 6:51:27 PM
This is not "anti-war" it's anti-soldier. Thus it is terrible. Soldiers are amoung the nicest people I've ever met, they risk their lives so YOU can be free! Would it kill the left (and 100% this was drawn by a fefty!) to give them an ounce of respect?

Also it's probably a mural, not 'grafitti' and someone was paid $$ to disrespect soldiers. Looks British...

Lets see if all these comments can fill me in!

shamrock1014
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 302 Posts
Wednesday, August 03, 2011 6:47:15 PM
Military of today is far different than those of the past. Lots of enlisted now have degrees, not just officers. You have to be technological savvy, it's not just about giving someone a gun and telling them to go out and kill

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