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Globe Not Warming Says NASA

Hits: 11364 | Rating: (2.8) | Category: Science | Added by: 5Cats
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Musuko42
Male, 18-29, Europe
 2742 Posts
Monday, August 01, 2011 6:17:20 AM
@TDND

"Musuko please tell me that was not a serious question/ statement...."

It wasn't. It was mocking sarcasm.

lordastral
Male, 30-39, Western US
 45 Posts
Friday, July 29, 2011 11:27:30 PM
Wow that article was amazingly disingenuous. I especially like the links to climate skeptic sites masquerading as legitimate sources.

TDND
Male, 18-29, Western US
 43 Posts
Friday, July 29, 2011 11:08:24 PM
Musuko please tell me that was not a serious question/ statement....

Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
 10534 Posts
Friday, July 29, 2011 5:50:19 PM
The Earth is is fact warming up but not because of the Human beings at all, its because the Earths core is getting hotter. This is a natural process that happens in every single planet of the universe. The Earth is right now expanding like a balloon, this causes the increasing of Earthquakes, specially around the ring of fire.


I'd just like to point out that this isn't true. Just in case anyone reads it and assumes that the confident tone means that it's a statement of fact.

Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
 10534 Posts
Friday, July 29, 2011 5:45:22 PM
Gotta love how alarmists ignore all scientific evidence that doesn't fit their theory, Yet use other dubious science and admittedly manipulated data to maintain their scaremongering.


Gotta love how the true believers lie so obviously about the evidence.

At least, I would laugh if I didn't realise that it's effective for them to lie because people rarely check.

Look at this thread, for example. It's a lie. As simple as that. All that is necessary to confirm that it's a lie is to look at the article from NASA, which is completely different to the false claims made about it in this thread. The link to the NASA article was posted by Baalthazaq in the first reply and can easily be found by searching by anyone who missed the link.

But the lying is successful because few people will give even a minute to fact checking.

CodeJockey
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
 4294 Posts
Friday, July 29, 2011 1:13:40 PM
Cats, Jak, I think those people are usually politicians,
not scientists so, those that don't have an agenda can only
go on what they are told.

As for scientists, I can understand a person trying
to lower pollution levels to make life better. Noble.
I can even understand a guy just trying to have a pay check.
But I don't get climatologists going against the physicists'
and Farmer's Almanac models that have been spot on
even predicting temps going down since July of 2006.

Musuko42
Male, 18-29, Europe
 2742 Posts
Friday, July 29, 2011 10:08:32 AM
@QualityJay

"In USA CARBON is now pollution... CARBON! This is what every creature and plant is made of, what every person and animal breaths out. Give me a break."

The vast majority of your body is made of water.

So why do we drown in water?

You can't explain that.

QualityJay
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 303 Posts
Friday, July 29, 2011 9:31:26 AM
carmium, I agree.

QualityJay
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 303 Posts
Friday, July 29, 2011 9:29:14 AM
Is this a surprise, remember the 2009 email scandal: "... the e-mails suggest that CRU scientists have been suppressing and misstating data and working to prevent the publication of conflicting views in peer-reviewed science periodicals." I personally went to school and studied climatology, global warming while happening is a natural unavoidable circumstance. In USA CARBON is now pollution... CARBON! This is what every creature and plant is made of, what every person and animal breaths out. Give me a break. A great way to tax you on your car, electricity, how many animals you own, breath.

PierreJeanFR
Male, 40-49, Europe
 1336 Posts
Friday, July 29, 2011 8:36:45 AM
Facts: pollution is bad, don't know if it's going to be warmer or colder but too much pollution is not good for your health.
That's a fact 5Cats and commun sense.

Angelmassb
Male, 18-29, S. America
 15497 Posts
Friday, July 29, 2011 7:54:41 AM
The Earth is is fact warming up but not because of the Human beings at all, its because the Earths core is getting hotter. This is a natural process that happens in every single planet of the universe. The Earth is right now expanding like a balloon, this causes the increasing of Earthquakes, specially around the ring of fire.

patchgrabber
Male, 30-39, Canada
 5597 Posts
Friday, July 29, 2011 6:57:07 AM
I have an idea, let's use conservative tactics to answer this apparent publication:
*ahem*
THIS STUDY IS FAKE THEIR DATA IS MANIPULATED BY A CONSERVATIVE "SCIENTIST'S" BIAS HE'S JUST DOING IT SO NASA GETS ITS FUNDING BACK SO HE CAN CONTINUE DOING HIS BAD SCIENCE I DON'T BELIEVE THINGS THAT CONTRADICT MY POINT OF VIEW IT'S EASIER TO CALL IT FAKE RAWRRAWRRAWR!

CodeJockey
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
 4294 Posts
Friday, July 29, 2011 6:04:30 AM
Dear Humans,
For the last few hundred million years,
the planet has been getting colder.
Local data may show the planet getting warmer.
Less localized data shows that happens in cycles
and the planet is generally becoming colder.

We know you'd like to feel significant but,
there are forces larger than you at work.
You are simply not large enough to affect the
entire planet at once.

Signed,
The Aging/Shrinking Sun, Earth's Imperfect Orbit and
the other stellar objects acting on it.

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 21967 Posts
Friday, July 29, 2011 5:49:02 AM
Look at all the kool-aid drinkers trying to ignore the FACTS:

Your crazy models are fake!
Polar bears drowning are fake!
Data was manipulated, twisted and ignored all without any 'scientific' justification in order to get the desired result!

Yet governments around the globe are spending billions on this junk science which actually worsens the problem. True but sad.

paperduck
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 1578 Posts
Friday, July 29, 2011 5:20:58 AM
I feel like I just read the same paragraph 6 times.

Musuko42
Male, 18-29, Europe
 2742 Posts
Friday, July 29, 2011 5:00:12 AM
@CrakrJak

"What I said is true the ice ten years ago was thinner than it was last year."

That isn't a mark against global warming, CrakrJak. The process is not simple, and it is not without fluctuation.

The fact that you seem to think it IS simple and without fluctiation says a lot about how your mind works, and makes us think you're the kind of dipstick who points at the snow outside and screams that global warming doesn't exist.

kairobert
Male, 18-29, Europe
 1634 Posts
Friday, July 29, 2011 1:20:30 AM
"Gotta love how alarmists ignore all scientific evidence that doesn't fit their theory, Yet use other dubious science and admittedly manipulated data to maintain their scaremongering. "

Look at little conservative creature, found something he likes, now copies.

xCYBERDYNEx
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 4799 Posts
Friday, July 29, 2011 12:22:22 AM
5cats, you are incredibly predictable.

carmium
Female, 50-59, Canada
 5657 Posts
Friday, July 29, 2011 12:19:26 AM
Using the phrase "alarmist computer models" that many times kind of detracts from the objectivity and credibility of your piece.

Jackson13W
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 153 Posts
Thursday, July 28, 2011 11:45:56 PM
*yawn* this is clearly an article with an agenda. i do not trust articles written with clearly accusatory language from either apex of the pendulum. this article is not science, it is an interpretation of science. science does not boast or accuse, it looks at what and why. when people start throwing terms around like 'denier' or 'scaremonger', the science is gone and all that is left is the spin. anyone relying on facts is not arguing, they are simply looking at facts. anyone disagreeing on facts; whatever those facts are (i sure as hell don't know) is not worth arguing with.

as for my stance: i don't have one. research is ongoing.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 16145 Posts
Thursday, July 28, 2011 11:29:38 PM
Gotta love how alarmists ignore all scientific evidence that doesn't fit their theory, Yet use other dubious science and admittedly manipulated data to maintain their scaremongering.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 16145 Posts
Thursday, July 28, 2011 11:25:12 PM
Madest: Apparently my proof image was taken down.

Was it too big or does a global warming mod not like it ?

Either way, I'm going to link to it here

Notice that red is thin ice and purple is deep ice, What I said is true the ice ten years ago was thinner than it was last year.

lauriloo
Female, 40-49, Midwest US
 1804 Posts
Thursday, July 28, 2011 10:08:26 PM
"You must've skipped this part:
"A complicating factor in that prediction is the influence of climate change, says Karoly. "Even when CFCs are removed, ozone levels will be different in the future than they were in the 1960s, because of changes in temperature in the stratosphere."

Which says to me, someone with a chemical engineering degree, that people with absolutely no science background should realize that they have no hope in understanding something as complicated as climate changes and causality over the millenia.

Is it really such a big burden to stop wasting and polluting so damn much just in case they are right? After all, you pretend to be religious just in case there's a hell, don't you? It should be second nature to hedge your bets.

SmilinSam
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 3603 Posts
Thursday, July 28, 2011 6:30:01 PM
The author of this article needs to go back to journalism school. he said the same thing in four different paragraphs. want an abriged version?: {NASA satellites have found that there is much more heat escaping from earth than what those "alarmist's" computer's had predicted.} which means... of course everything they've ever said and all the studies are a scam!! they are lying to you so they can... do what exactly? what evil agenda do the evil environmentalists have hiding just under the global warming conspiracy!? /sarc

Rawrg
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 935 Posts
Thursday, July 28, 2011 5:21:08 PM
Four basic types of people on this issue:

Alarmist: Man is causing global warming. Every effect of global warming will be bad, and if we don't start working immediately, we'll destroy the planet. We must make drastic changes now, even if it costs a lot of time and money.

Denier: Anthropogenic Global Warming cannot exist, and it's a conspiracy to funnel money to scientists and for hippy socialists to crush industry.

Reasonable proponent: Global warming is perhaps going on, and we should probably be making strides towards reducing greenhouse emissions at a reasonable and manageable rate.

Reasonable Skeptic: AGW may or may not be source of rising temperature. There are many complex factors to consider such as increased reflectivity from increased cloud creating a negative feedback cycle, solar intensity and the pitch of the axis of the Earth relative to the sun among other things. We should carry on doing research without making premature claims.

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