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 MrJB
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 42 Posts
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Wednesday, July 13, 2011 10:25:40 AM
It's true that everything points to Casey Anthony, it's true that she is the only logical murderer at this point, but it hasn't been PROVED. That's the biggest thing about the whole case. Yes, the common man knows she is guilty, anyone can see that and I'm sure the jurors see that, but the problem is it only points to her, it does not pinpoint her "beyond a shadow of a doubt." Casey Anthony did it, but the jurors made the right legal choice in acquitting her because by our legal standards the evidence was not enough. |
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 grapehead
Male, 18-29, Western US
409 Posts
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Wednesday, July 13, 2011 9:17:31 AM
I like bill maher on religion but not politics. Super one sided, He spins poo as much as republicans do. Is this FEAR MONGERING BILL?! |
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jonnycake63
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
147 Posts
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Tuesday, July 12, 2011 10:50:47 PM
@OutWest your comment is part of the whole problem with America. It's people labeling themselves or others as liberals/conservatives, democrats/republicans. As soon as you do that, you then feel like an a hole if you vote against the side you have aligned with, even if the other side has an idea that will work far better then the side you root for. Case in point, Sarah Palin. The only reason someone should vote for her is if they also invest in pistols for when people commit suicide rather than be run by chinese. However, people will still vote for her because she's Republican. (lack of space to provide Democratic example)Fact is, most people are to lazy to do research to understand what a candidate is all about so they check off when they see a D or an R. Until that changes, and people stop going all for one party because it is "their" party, we're only going to go into a deeper and deeper hole. |
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 OutWest
Male, 50-59, Western US
548 Posts
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Tuesday, July 12, 2011 12:42:20 PM
The funny part is that liberals always think they are more intelligent and morally superior to their conservative fellow citizens!
Does he seem to be?
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 Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
25693 Posts
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Tuesday, July 12, 2011 10:50:31 AM
Octapus - "Thank god somebody can see what is really wrong in America."
Shame it's not anyone in power to make changes. |
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 Octapus
Female, 13-17, Southern US
6 Posts
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Tuesday, July 12, 2011 9:41:32 AM
Thank god somebody can see what is really wrong in America. |
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 Neagle
Male, 30-39, Western US
1405 Posts
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Tuesday, July 12, 2011 1:28:52 AM
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 xCYBERDYNEx
Male, 18-29, Southern US
4798 Posts
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Tuesday, July 12, 2011 12:08:38 AM
He's a c*ck rag, who cares what he thinks. I wish he would quit trying to pretend like he isn't one of the "rich" people. |
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 phoneybone
Male, 18-29, Western US
1750 Posts
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Monday, July 11, 2011 11:43:39 PM
all i know is during bush, my taxes weren't so bad. Now during obama, i pay $1000/mo in taxes, and i don't make $100k a year. |
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Hephaestus
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
35 Posts
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Monday, July 11, 2011 10:49:15 PM
@auburnjunky
For your second link.
Many good topics, but frightfully biased and points to conclusions that I’m certain I’ve heard opposing opinion from with just as much vigor and certainty (and not just on comment boards, fellow economists).
One example is number 9. The example Bill Gates leaving hides the point that one man/family has accrued so much money in a system of limited resources. Further, income has risen for the middle class, but has it kept pace with expenses that are seen as mandatory (gas, healthcare, education costs). A growth of 17% over a 24 year period seems rather pathetic when compared to a required 8% yearly growth from portfolios just to grow and curb inflation... over a 24 year period that is about 305% growth from the start. To put it another way, our health care costs just jumped another 34% this year alone. Did our pay increase to offset that cost? Hasn't for the past 3 years at least. |
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Hephaestus
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
35 Posts
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Monday, July 11, 2011 10:48:38 PM
@auburnjunky
Wish I had more time to address each point for conversation but I doubt anyone would enjoy that anyway. I’ll just make to posts and call it good. It is late, so I apologize if I made any mistakes in my argument.
For you first link
At an income of less than 30000, that is a difficult amount to live on in this country with any real hopes of saving, providing, etc. Standard responses like “get a better job” or “more education” can help... but aren’t a certainty and are a huge expense. The end of the article notes that 1646 filers in the ½ to full million range weren’t taxed even though they probably should have been due to errors in the system and offset the claim that it’s merely a matter of the lower 50% not paying. |
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 bigbaddave
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
216 Posts
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Monday, July 11, 2011 10:25:15 PM
Maher is a twit.. how serious can you really take him considering he dated Ann Coulter at one point? |
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 Sachi001
Male, 30-39, Asia
598 Posts
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Monday, July 11, 2011 9:17:46 PM
So Pink and Green is really Bill Maher in troll. |
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Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
25693 Posts
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Monday, July 11, 2011 6:56:15 PM
AJ, we're in agreement on that. We disagree on who's currently paying them. it's not the rich and it's not the poor so . . . I guess that explains the deficit |
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 auburnjunky
Male, 30-39, Southern US
8698 Posts
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Monday, July 11, 2011 6:26:00 PM
That may be Gerry, but everyone should pay taxes, period. |
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Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
25693 Posts
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Monday, July 11, 2011 6:24:44 PM
@ auburnjunky ? WTH? who's not paying tax?
Okay, I'm not now 'cause I'm not working but
when I did it pissed me off that my co-worker, doing the same job paid $10,000 less in taxes because
he was too stupid to use a condom and had kids.
The Gov'ment didn't go without that money, they
taxed someone else more...and it wasn't the rich. |
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 Baelzar
Male, 40-49, Western US
1348 Posts
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Monday, July 11, 2011 6:02:00 PM
Still thinking with your emotions, eh Maher?
Glad you're not on a jury, Bill. You smarmy son of a bi.tch. |
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auburnjunky
Male, 30-39, Southern US
8698 Posts
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Monday, July 11, 2011 5:37:04 PM
Agreed sbeelz. Both sides have good and bad. More bad than good I am afraid. |
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 sbeelz
Male, 30-39, Western US
2860 Posts
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Monday, July 11, 2011 5:35:21 PM
I'm NOT with him on the idea that the Dems are the good guys and the Repubs are the bad guys. They BOTH take massive donations from the corporate sector, and neither is doing anything significant to protect the interests of the majority. |
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auburnjunky
Male, 30-39, Southern US
8698 Posts
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Monday, July 11, 2011 5:22:37 PM
@5Cats: "Clinton: balanced the budget by CUTTING WELFARE!"
He also rode the wave of Reaganomics which led to the prosperity of the 90's, for the US and the rest of the world.
Clinton also expanded the Community Re-investment Act, which led to the housing crisis we are in now. |
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 5Cats
Male, 40-49, Canada
16991 Posts
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Monday, July 11, 2011 5:10:45 PM
Maher is a whore, plain and simple. Simple really describes him, actually. His "monologue" is so FULL of errors it's pointless to even try to address them with a 1K limit, eh?
I'll try though:
Clinton: balanced the budget by CUTTING WELFARE!
Bush: had to fight 2 wars.
Simple? yes! But not simple enough for Billy-boy. |
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cyborg
Male, 13-17, Midwest US
2799 Posts
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Monday, July 11, 2011 4:45:03 PM
still not caring.
next. |
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auburnjunky
Male, 30-39, Southern US
8698 Posts
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Monday, July 11, 2011 4:36:40 PM
@Sachi: This guy is a douchebag period. Doesn't matter where. |
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auburnjunky
Male, 30-39, Southern US
8698 Posts
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Monday, July 11, 2011 4:31:12 PM
They don't pay because of credits and things of that nature.
Here's some reading.
Here's some more.
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Hephaestus
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
35 Posts
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Monday, July 11, 2011 4:25:29 PM
@auburnjunky
Sorry to chime in again, but can you clarify the "bottom 50%" and how you know they don't pay.
Is your boss part of the lower 50% based on your story that he doesn't pay his share (at 150K)?
This puts the median of income around 61K
Link
And this says that 51% of the US makes over that median (rounded slightly)
Link
After the personal exemptions, the effective tax rate of those at the median is about 8%
Putting them very close to your 10% anyway. So it really comes down to, why do you think the lower 50% don’t pay and get away with it. 2 3 Next >
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