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Hey Slacker, Can't Get A Job? Try Harder [Pic]

Hits: 23619 | Rating: (2.5) | Category: Misc. | Added by: hovalady411
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KitFox
Female, 30-39, Eastern US
 538 Posts
Sunday, June 05, 2011 7:01:53 PM
Ya'll just need to read InternNation

ruthless1990
Female, 18-29, Europe
 3016 Posts
Sunday, June 05, 2011 4:27:01 PM
this is actually what i did! i do mechanical engineering and volunteered for two placements for 2 months each summer and now everyone wants me :D

Crizzy777
Male, 18-29, Europe
 111 Posts
Saturday, June 04, 2011 6:33:58 PM
Haha well okay in this case I'm going to volunteer at the management departement at the noblest bank nearby... I work there 3months for free and after that they even might hire me!

MeGrendel
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 4777 Posts
Friday, June 03, 2011 7:47:53 PM
FaLa620-"who can afford to put all of that on hold while you spend all of your time working at a job that doesn't pay?"

Again, it is not an either/or situation. You don't have to give up a paying job in order to volunteer, or to go to school or to further your skills.

I've worked more than full time for over 25 years. In that time I've attended school full time, I've volunteered countless hours and just recently attended college classes just because there was a skill I wanted to learn because I thought it would help my current job (paid for it myself and I didn't miss a bit of work).

No one is saying put anything on hold. Do what it takes to pay bills, but you'll still have time to further your education and/or volunteer.

Of course, it will mean giving up some of your computer and video game time..and I realize that that's just unreasonable to some people. (of course, this is the same people that complain of lack of opportunities)

FaLa620
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 80 Posts
Friday, June 03, 2011 5:47:16 PM
This doesn't really work for most people. If you're in school, then sure, it might be a good idea. But if you're done with school and you're in the "real world" you have to think about bills - rent, utilities, car, etc... who can afford to put all of that on hold while you spend all of your time working at a job that doesn't pay? Volunteering is great for people in school, or those with rich relatives that will pay your bills while you're out making the world a better place. But for the rest of us, it's really not an option.

liklepip
Female, 18-29, Europe
 136 Posts
Friday, June 03, 2011 1:35:41 PM
actually working in places like mcdonalds does offer experience you just ave tonthink of it differently,
how to speak to people? How to be nice to non-nice individuals etc.. thats a skill. Working under pressure, when 11 hits and full menu opens up i mean theres a lot of fat poeple to feed and fast, health and hygene, i've actually run out now but you do get some experience though

MeGrendel
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 4777 Posts
Friday, June 03, 2011 10:32:09 AM
nny156-"really MeGrendal.....really..."

Yes, really. As someone who has sat in on boards that evaluate applicants, yes, really.

Holding a job at a gas station for a time demostrated to me you could hold a job.

Having many jobs is not a problem, unless those 20 jobs you held were all in the same year. That just demonstrates that you can NOT hold a job (and will not be considered)

Given two applicants with identical education, one fresh out of school with no work history and one with a good work history (even if it's outside the field) I will (and have) pick the one that has demonstrated they can hold a job.

We always consider work history. We'd rather hire a person who may have a little less education but has a good work history than one with a little more education with no work history. That's the reality.

When advertising for a job, we ask for 'Education, or 'x-many' years working in this field...and a good work histo

nny156
Male, 18-29, Canada
 183 Posts
Friday, June 03, 2011 10:09:28 AM
really MeGrendal.....really...
if you worked at a gas station for a long time it only shows you know how to pump gas or ring up snacks thats not sufficient work experience for ANY job that will pay your bills.

and its actually better to have more jobs on your resume showing you've had more experience then the jerkoff who pumped gas all his life (which by the way is actually seen as a sign of apathy and unwillingness to work your way up in the world.)

so patchgrabber is correct working at some crappy job all your life is not in any way going to give you job experience for a real job. nobodies ever gone from mcdonalds to law firm you have to work up the ladder to get there and working multiple jobs is part of that.

nny156
Male, 18-29, Canada
 183 Posts
Friday, June 03, 2011 10:02:29 AM
i dont know of many tech companies that take "volunteers"

this method really only works for fire departments other then that its all about who you know and kinda about your degree.

MeGrendel
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 4777 Posts
Friday, June 03, 2011 9:23:51 AM
patchgrabber-"Working at a gas station or McDonald's does not give you APPROPRIATE experience for jobs that require other skills."

Yes it does. Any work experience qualifies as experience. If for no other reason to demonstrate whether or not you are capable of holding a job.

Either job will reflect (and help build) your work ethic, your dependability and your ability to work with and for others.

A potential employer will look at your work history for many things. If your resume/application reflects that you've worked at a gas station for a good length of time, the employer may very well think 'Well, he can hold a job, and his former boss wanted to keep him on. Good qualities.'.

If, on the other hand, your resume shows you changing jobs every week, that employer will probably thing 'This guy can't hold a job. Must have crappy people/work skills'.

Either job, also, will pay the bills while you gain education/experience on the sid

Quackor
Male, 18-29, S. America
 2864 Posts
Friday, June 03, 2011 8:42:13 AM
yes, because working for free is a great way to starve to death

AvatarJohn
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 1017 Posts
Friday, June 03, 2011 8:23:44 AM
Watch The Pursuit of Happyness. That's how it's done in a free society with boundless opportunity. You work your ass off for little to no money and when you've proven yourself to be indispensible, that's when you get rewarded. When we get back to that and away from the golden hammock of an out-of-control, oppressive, nanny-state government, that's when the US will become great again.

patchgrabber
Male, 30-39, Canada
 5728 Posts
Friday, June 03, 2011 7:34:16 AM
"the idea is to use these jobs to gain work experience and qualify for a better job "

Your argument is invalid. Working at a gas station or McDonald's does not give you APPROPRIATE experience for jobs that require other skills. I doubt an employer in the sciences or criminal justice field care too much that you "worked da nite shift at kinkos." Also, many places do not accept volunteers based on the nature of the job, and even I found it difficult to find a job in my field even though I did student work exchange programs and an undergraduate research project that gave me experience IN MY FIELD.

MeGrendel
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 4777 Posts
Friday, June 03, 2011 7:06:00 AM
OpsAss12-"The post is titled "Can't get a job."."

Anyone who can't get ANY job is either a seriously crappy worker, or unwilling to work jobs that are 'beneath' them. Neither of those people are worth spending any time worrying about, or any tax money on.

There are plenty of jobs that require no experience (thus, are not covered by the sign). Of course, they are crappy paying jobs, as any trained monkey can do them (thus, the 'no experience require'). the idea is to use these jobs to gain work experience and qualify for a better job (on that requires experience). If you're 40 and still stuck flipping burgers, congratulations, you have no marketable job skills.

The sign obvisoulsy points out that there is another way to get experience for a job that requires experience.

ZiggZagg
Male, 13-17, Europe
 243 Posts
Friday, June 03, 2011 6:28:17 AM
I like to be payed for any work I do, thanks.

SashaTheBrit
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 45 Posts
Friday, June 03, 2011 6:26:21 AM
Is it sad that when I saw "Hey Slacker" I thought of Devin Townsend's "Tall Latte" from his album "Ziltoid the Omniscient"?

miasmaat
Female, 18-29, Western US
 299 Posts
Friday, June 03, 2011 4:44:38 AM
In my country - if you volunteer you will not get any government assistance. hence - you will yourself soon become homeless and dependant on the assistance of volunteers.
Crappy policy but there you have it. If you are unemployed - you are legally forbidden from seeking unpaid internships or charity work.

(country is New Zealand, incidentally.)

Then I guess there's also the other side of the issue. If you are qualified (x million degrees and scholarships) and lack any experience in your academic field and are NOT 23 years old - it doesnt matter if you volunteer in some charity or take a mcjob or beg for an unpaid internship (which will last a month or so at the most) - you will still not be able to compete with the tens to hundreds of thousands of HIGHLY qualified and experienced people who have been laid off and are flooding the job market. Why take a graduate analyst for anything whatsoever when you can take an intermediate one with five years experience?!

8BitHero
Male, 18-29, Europe
 5426 Posts
Friday, June 03, 2011 2:01:00 AM
I just make a decent CV. But for those using that excuse above. Volunteer is a good method. But no pay.... :/

bankvole
Male, 30-39, Europe
 988 Posts
Friday, June 03, 2011 1:14:34 AM
and what are people supposed to live on when they volunteer or do a slave-like internship?

surprisefire
Female, 18-29, Canada
 27 Posts
Friday, June 03, 2011 12:55:02 AM
Auburnjunky 'Are there volunteer jobs in game design, or aeronautical engineering?

No? Okay.'

Nope. There's something even better for those positions. It's called co-op and it's like volunteering, except it's run through your university and, the best part, you get paid for it! Then once you graduate you get this awesome little thing on your diploma that says you do have experience in that field and, from what I've heard anyone, who graduates with co-op experiences gets picked up right away mostly by the company they co-oped with. Those who don't go through co-op are the ones who most likely don't get a job.

micthefish
Male, 30-39, Europe
 22 Posts
Thursday, June 02, 2011 11:34:09 PM
Musuko42 @
I'm a lifelong Labour supporter. So...well done there......as I said 'keep your right wing tory opinions to yourself....'

Liquidglass
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 1119 Posts
Thursday, June 02, 2011 11:09:09 PM
@ MeGrendel


I agree, it always takes effort. And if you don't have a job and can't pay your bills already, what's the problem with volunteering to help yourself get a (better) job down the road?


I know this won't matter to most people reading this. But that in fact was Abraham Lincoln's advice to three men that complained to him they couldn't find a job during the dark economic days of his presidency. He told them to volunteer doing what they could in their neighborhood and employment would seek them. And it did ;)

OpsAss13
Male, 30-39, Western US
 510 Posts
Thursday, June 02, 2011 10:49:21 PM
"Good idea. All healthy people commit suicide. "

I didn't say this at all. You really need to learn how to read. I just meant you. You and you alone should put a bullet in your head. Understand? YOU ONLY.

mmill928
Female, 18-29, Western US
 278 Posts
Thursday, June 02, 2011 10:44:58 PM
inversegray - are you saying that there is no such thing as a volunteer chemistry tutor? How about volunteering at your school's chem department? I'm sure they need help with storage and all that.

inversegrav
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 772 Posts
Thursday, June 02, 2011 9:19:01 PM
well there is a matter of what you want to do. They dont take volunteers at a chemical laboratory. So would doing volunteer work help a graduate with a chemistry degree?

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