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Genderless Baby In Canada Causing Controversy

Hits: 18804 | Rating: (2.8) | Category: News & Politics | Added by: edana42
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Eretsim
Male, 40-49, Western US
 16 Posts
Monday, June 06, 2011 12:51:02 AM
its a boy

Croc_Dad
Male, 18-29, Europe
 20 Posts
Sunday, June 05, 2011 11:45:59 AM
Caption fail. It doesn't "beg the question", it raises it.

sicker
Female, 30-39, Canada
 319 Posts
Thursday, June 02, 2011 9:04:09 PM
Oh for pity sake, why is this anyone's business?? People beat on their kids, give them unhealthy food, expose them to things no child should be exposed to and one hippie couple decides to go gender-neutral and everyone has a hissy fit? Wait five minutes - you'll know soon enough if the poor kid's genitals dangle or not. Problem solved.

HappyPrize
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
 3 Posts
Thursday, June 02, 2011 8:47:12 PM
It's funny how the people that are defending this couple keep saying that gender and sex is different, which is true, but clearly the couple think it is the same thing, otherwise why would they say they are hiding what is between its legs? Clearly the genitals between its legs is an identification of sex, not gender. There are plenty of people that can raise a genderless baby (my parents sort of did and they are somewhat traditional and conservative), however hiding the sex is not the way to do it. Knowing what people expect from me prepares me to deal with it in a healthy matter. Not telling the kid or people its sex is like not telling a kid to look both ways before crossing a street (ok I know it's over-simplified). A good parent doesn't want kids to fear the street (being themselves), but they don't want them to get hit by a car (reality that the majority of society expects you to follow the gender rules), so they warn them. Also, the 5 year old is already having problems.

startech
Male, 30-39, Canada
 238 Posts
Thursday, June 02, 2011 8:37:34 AM
This kid will not fit into society. Men and women have different roles (sorry women's libbers, but it's a fact) and this kid will not know where he/she fits. Gender "Stereotypes" are there for a good reason. Men have certain roles to play, as do women. Anyone that defends this couple's decision has obviously not thought this through.

samidoll
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 613 Posts
Wednesday, June 01, 2011 10:00:03 PM
auburnjunky, you'd think at around 30, you'd have outgrown these uneducated and very stubborn stances. you're really not listening to what people are trying to tell you about gender and sex being different. why do you think people go through extensive operations to have their sex match their gender? sigh. you make us southerners look bad, and i apologize to the forum on behalf of him.

Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
 11501 Posts
Wednesday, June 01, 2011 7:44:46 PM
No. You guys have no facts to back up your claims. For years, it has been the consensus that men have penises and women have vaginas. Why has it changed?


Are you that stupid or just trolling?

You have to be trolling. If you were as stupid as you're pretending to be, you wouldn't be able to read or write.

People keep telling you that 'sex' and 'gender' are different words with different meanings and you keep pretending that they're the same word. Then you compound it by making silly claims about what other people are saying because you're claiming that you can't understand that two different words with different meanings are different words with different meanings.

You have to be trolling.

auburnjunky
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 10127 Posts
Wednesday, June 01, 2011 10:54:00 AM
... fact of the matter is, you think my opinion is stupid, because it is different than yours.

auburnjunky
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 10127 Posts
Wednesday, June 01, 2011 10:52:10 AM
...and No. I don't think it would be automatic if my penis was cut off. Now if you cut off my testicles and I took estrogen supplements, that's a different story.

auburnjunky
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 10127 Posts
Wednesday, June 01, 2011 10:51:11 AM
No. You guys have no facts to back up your claims. For years, it has been the consensus that men have penises and women have vaginas. Why has it changed?

Musuko42
Male, 18-29, Europe
 2850 Posts
Wednesday, June 01, 2011 10:25:42 AM
@auburnjunky

Oh it's not because your opinion is different. It's because your opinion is stupid.

You think you'd simply think and feel and act and live as a woman if I cut your penis off. Just like that.

And you can't see why we think you're stupid?

auburnjunky
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 10127 Posts
Wednesday, June 01, 2011 9:13:18 AM
Yeah. I have a differing opinion. I must be stupid.

Musuko42
Male, 18-29, Europe
 2850 Posts
Wednesday, June 01, 2011 9:09:41 AM
@sbeelz

He really doesn't.

sbeelz
Male, 30-39, Western US
 2869 Posts
Wednesday, June 01, 2011 8:36:30 AM
@auburnjunky- you have no idea what you're talking about.

auburnjunky
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 10127 Posts
Wednesday, June 01, 2011 8:09:24 AM
"if I kidnapped auburnjunky and surgically altered him into a female body, I'm pretty sure he would still identify himself as a male with a physical body that does not match his psychological aspect"

If I could no longer function as a male, I would function as a female. Period.

Then I would find you, and kill you.

FeelTheRide
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 521 Posts
Wednesday, June 01, 2011 8:06:36 AM
I also have to agree with FatNinja01...attention seeking parents

FeelTheRide
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 521 Posts
Wednesday, June 01, 2011 7:59:32 AM
I have to wonder...how many people saying there is nothing wrong with this actually have children?? Also, would any of them do the same to their child? I understand not forcing roles on your child but this is just simply absurd.

Satkela
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 586 Posts
Wednesday, June 01, 2011 7:48:43 AM
It's Canada. Why am I not surprised. When I first saw this post I assumed that perhaps the child didn't have any genitalia at all. But this experiment that the parents are performing on their child is in my opinion ludicrous. Wouldn't it cause more confusion to the child if the parents treat him/her as a asexual being?
This seems to be just as wrong as the parents who say for instance want a boy really bad but have a girl and make her into a boy or vice versa.

Musuko42
Male, 18-29, Europe
 2850 Posts
Wednesday, June 01, 2011 5:52:38 AM
@Heureux

"But simple minds pretend that their simplistic reality is everyone's reality."

To borrow from the American parlance: Hoo boy, ain't that the truth!

Musuko42
Male, 18-29, Europe
 2850 Posts
Wednesday, June 01, 2011 5:50:45 AM
PS: for a simple illustration of how gender does not equal sex: if I kidnapped auburnjunky and surgically altered him into a female body, I'm pretty sure he would still identify himself as a male with a physical body that does not match his psychological aspect.

TL/DR: Gender is what's in your head, sex is what's between your legs. They don't always match, and what's between your legs does not necessarily control what's in your head.

Musuko42
Male, 18-29, Europe
 2850 Posts
Wednesday, June 01, 2011 5:35:32 AM
@auburnjunky

"Yes it drating does!"

It simply doesn't. They are different words with different meanings. Often mistaken and conflated, but distinct nonetheless.

@davidildo123

"The parents are denying the sex of their kid."

Correct. They are. Do you know why?

So that people like auburnjunky here are unable to enforce gender roles on him or her based on the sex.

THAT is why they're doing it; to allow the child to figure out their gender identity without being pushed one way or another by other people's mistaken belief that gender is defined by physical sex.

merielle
Female, 18-29, Asia
 65 Posts
Wednesday, June 01, 2011 2:26:49 AM
who says boys HAVE to like blue, airplanes and firetrucks? and who says girls HAVE to like pink, dolls, and playing tea? the parents are not doing anythign wrong. this is so stupid.

danky
Male, 18-29, Western US
 559 Posts
Wednesday, June 01, 2011 12:57:02 AM
lol'd hard @ auburnjunky
"get one sewn on"
LOL

auburnjunky
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 10127 Posts
Tuesday, May 31, 2011 11:47:07 PM
Epic drating facepalm.

Here. Let me spell it out.

If you have a penis, but feel like a girl, then you are a boy who feels like a girl.

If you have a vagina, but you feel like a boy, then you are a girl who feels like a boy.

Yes it is that simple. Yes it is that black and white.

If you are having psychological issues with it (like this kid most definitely will), got get snipped, or go get one sewn on, whatever the case may be.

Until that day though, Boys have a penis, and girls have a vagina.

When you fill out a job application, do you answer the gender question based on how you feel that day?

Man: "Oh I'm feeling a bit girly today. I'll check female."

Woman: "Oh I feel so masculine today! So strong! I'll check Male!"

Whatever.

ScrapaNater
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 14 Posts
Tuesday, May 31, 2011 11:35:40 PM
I have to agree with the parents on this one. it's none of the world's business. So long as the child isn't being harmed, why does it matter how the parents raise him/her? the kid will learn its own gender role and ask questions when he/she is ready. this is NOT news worthy in the slightest.

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