 meetredmeat
Female, 18-29, Western US
 123 Posts
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Sunday, June 05, 2011 11:56:38 PM
@SuperNOOB: Good point. I think this TV show host is the one doing the preying. He's just picking at them mercilessly, and I'm more bothered by him and his disgustingly closed-minded view of these two people he knows close to nothing about than the father and daughter- especially when the dad said that he saw her as his soul mate.
However what was gross about it was how the two made out like that on stage. That was simply uncalled for regardless of how they were truly related to each other. |
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 SuperN00B
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
198 Posts
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Tuesday, May 24, 2011 12:16:58 PM
So what? She's legal, there both consenting adults, they obviously truly love each other and they don't want to have a kid (Though that shouldn't matter. Not every kid born of two siblings is retarded, malformed, etc.).
This is just as bad as people who are against gays, Bi-sexual's, polygamy, the guy/gal being 15+ years older than the partner, etc.
Let people love who they want to d*** it. |
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 Pheeshy5
Male, 18-29, Western US
1316 Posts
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Monday, May 23, 2011 11:05:55 AM
This is just weird. |
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 ElorasBlade
Female, 18-29, Western US
20 Posts
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Monday, May 23, 2011 10:22:19 AM
@skytz1337 He sent her a smiley face. Bitches love smiley faces. |
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TokioKoos
Female, 18-29, Europe
415 Posts
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Monday, May 23, 2011 3:29:44 AM
OMG Steve has his own show? XD |
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 flingspoo
Female, 18-29, Western US
1006 Posts
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Sunday, May 22, 2011 10:46:14 PM
I call fake |
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 ManicRapture
Female, 13-17, Eastern US
683 Posts
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Sunday, May 22, 2011 4:40:44 PM
so...i wish i had audio on my computer. lip reading only goes so far... |
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 skytz1337
Male, 18-29, Europe
689 Posts
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Sunday, May 22, 2011 3:35:14 PM
let me get this right ... she was "interested" in her father because he put a smiley face in a myspace message...seriously...WTF?!!
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 Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
9554 Posts
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Sunday, May 22, 2011 11:32:10 AM
There's a proper medical reason not to do this though, any children would be subject to genetic problems (or at least that's what I understand of it)
Not quite. There's an increased risk of genetic problems, but it's far from a certainty. You can't say that "any children would be subject to genetic problems". Some would, some wouldn't. The proportion who would be is significantly higher than normal, but it isn't all of them.
There's also an increased risk in general if it was common because it would reduce genetic diversity.
There's a reason that even animals won't do this
i) Some animals do.
ii) Humans are capable of thought, so the same rules don't apply.
So, for example, a dog has only the instinct of "smells too much like me to mate with" but a human can use thought to known if conception is impossible (i.e. homosexuality or heterosexuality in which either or both are infertile). |
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Frankii
Female, 18-29, Europe
439 Posts
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Sunday, May 22, 2011 11:15:51 AM
There's a proper medical reason not to do this though, any children would be subject to genetic problems (or at least that's what I understand of it) There's a reason that even animals won't do this |
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Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
9554 Posts
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Sunday, May 22, 2011 11:15:01 AM
Personally, I think the law should be based on something better than whichever group of people have enough power to get their own arbritary rules imposed on everyone.
The root of the law should be the prevention of harm, not a weapon to be used by whoever has enough power to make up some rules, label them "morality" and force them on everyone.
So I think the proper question with regards to the law is "Does it cause harm?" and not "Is it immoral?".
Incest is a grey area because if there is a chance of pregnancy then it can cause harm.
Homosexuality isn't a grey area because it doesn't cause harm.
So they're not the same and the slippery slope argument fails. |
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Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
9554 Posts
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Sunday, May 22, 2011 11:07:56 AM
I'd like to point out that despite how 5Cats has made it look in his post I did not write
...it's immoral to define marriage to exclude INCESTUOUS relationships
or
...it's immoral to define marriage to exclude HUMAN-ANIMAL relationships
Also, the remaining part of my post was the important part:
So why do you think you should get to define morality for everyone and legally impose it on everyone, but I shouldn't?
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 CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
14374 Posts
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Sunday, May 22, 2011 7:20:16 AM
ruthless: Let me use the standard homosexual marriage excuse on you, "But it's two consenting adults, You have no right to decide for them what is right or wrong !".
Just because they are adults, and they are of age of consent, does NOT make it Moral or a 'Right' to do so. |
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 5Cats
Male, 40-49, Canada
16973 Posts
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Sunday, May 22, 2011 6:53:02 AM
There was a period of fairly widespread debauchery towards the fall of the republic
@Angilion - your point is valid, but this decadent period is what I'm referring to. We can't even used "Soddom & Gahmorrah" as examples of decline anymore, eh? Many people nowadays think they were great places!
...it's immoral to define marriage to exclude INCESTUOUS relationships
fify! Also:
...it's immoral to define marriage to exclude HUMAN-ANIMAL relationships
It's just a matter of time before you can legally marry your german shepard. |
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 vVvBrock
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
177 Posts
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Sunday, May 22, 2011 6:39:50 AM
I honestly couldn't care less about what they do. If that's what they want to do and it makes them happy, go for it. |
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 ruthless1990
Female, 18-29, Europe
2989 Posts
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Sunday, May 22, 2011 1:26:35 AM
whether fake or real its still wrong, and you don't have to be a Christian to understand that. its illegal for a reason. |
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 Willowwatch
Female, 30-39, Midwest US
735 Posts
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Saturday, May 21, 2011 11:13:28 PM
Wasn't he one of the bouncers on Jerry Springer? |
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 chillimac
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
438 Posts
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Saturday, May 21, 2011 9:09:06 PM
pics or it didn't happen...wait no...NOOOOOOO!!! |
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 sleepyjoey
Male, 18-29, Western US
123 Posts
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Saturday, May 21, 2011 8:23:54 PM
For all you doomsday Christians, you realize that for things like this you can assume the null is valid.
This situation is too far out, this is fake, they are actors. She is attractive, in addition they are doing something very socially taboo. If this were true, they would probably do it on secret and not go on TV to be hated.
This is fake, go back to reading the bible and then cheating on your wife. |
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 Ajikan
Male, 18-29, Europe
1538 Posts
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Saturday, May 21, 2011 7:26:30 PM
:D LOL!
Well, whatever. To bad about not having children tho, big chance it would be deformed. Butt a small small chance of it getting a mutation that would benefit it.
Man that host was judgmental, they were two conceding adults. And were not causing anyone physical harm. The big man still needs to grow up. |
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Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
9554 Posts
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Saturday, May 21, 2011 7:06:06 PM
The slippery slope is already upon us folx. If the word marriage is not defined morally and legally under no uncertain terms, it will end up being dragged through the gutter immorally.
We are slowly being desensitized to this immorality and eventually it will become as seemingly 'normal' as homosexuality is now.
I say that it's immoral to define marriage to exclude homosexual relationships.
So why do you think you should get to define morality for everyone and legally impose it on everyone, but I shouldn't? |
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Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
9554 Posts
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Saturday, May 21, 2011 7:03:36 PM
Welcome to liberation people! Society's rules are being removed one by one, soon enough it will be "anything goes!" just like ancient Rome...
Apart from the fact that ancient Rome was generally a pretty moralistic place. The image many people have of ancient Rome is not well based in truth. There was a period of fairly widespread debauchery towards the fall of the republic, but that was an anomaly as society was collapsing.
If you substitued somewhere like Baiae instead of Rome you'd be closer to the truth, but places like that were themselves anomalous - they were essentially party resorts for very rich Romans and they were frequently criticised in Rome for immorality (which, of course, made them more attractive). |
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 techgeek07
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
2559 Posts
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Saturday, May 21, 2011 6:53:50 PM
fake fake fake fake fake |
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CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
14374 Posts
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Saturday, May 21, 2011 6:48:00 PM
The slippery slope is already upon us folx. If the word marriage is not defined morally and legally under no uncertain terms, it will end up being dragged through the gutter immorally.
We are slowly being desensitized to this immorality and eventually it will become as seemingly 'normal' as homosexuality is now. |
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 SCfan
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
1665 Posts
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Saturday, May 21, 2011 6:25:45 PM
Didn't we see this gag in Jackass 3D? |
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