 Raokin
Female, 18-29, Southern US
 458 Posts
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Tuesday, May 17, 2011 4:51:57 PM
I like how people are so willing to believe the media's claims about science and scientific discoveries (which are really quite often misleading). Rather than do research to dig up real scientific evidence for themselves, they put their trust in questionable sources out of intellectual laziness or because it reinforces their preconceived notions about how the world works. |
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 Werthers
Male, 30-39, Europe
60 Posts
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Monday, May 16, 2011 2:11:37 PM
what a f'd up world we live in |
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 Garu
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
564 Posts
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Monday, May 16, 2011 5:17:25 AM
People with cancer sometimes have nothing to lose. When a couple of these CEO's wind-up with a bullet in their heads, then it well be a great day. |
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 Fleaman1797
Male, 18-29, Southern US
719 Posts
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Monday, May 16, 2011 5:04:27 AM
When the time comes and it looks bleak for me.. im just gonna pick up a hand gun..slowly and spiritually walk into my back yard, or a wooded area and blow my head off.. id rather just...end it quickly then to have to fight and fight and fight anymore... its BEYOND drating apparent that these corporations are in charge, and care nothing at all for their fellow man.. here they are supposed to be saving us. coming up with new meds to keep us alive.. and instead they drop something cause (they cant make enough money off it) i hope if their IS a hell they burn in it forever and ever. |
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osmandias
Male, 40-49, Europe
206 Posts
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Monday, May 16, 2011 12:55:57 AM
Also, how can something ever be not profitable for a drug company. If something cures a cancer then they would charge out the nose for it, regardless of what it costs to make.
They can't charge what they want because it's not patentable - everybody can make it and the competition will find a prize that is reasonable.
The cost on the other hand lies not in the manufacturing but in the studies. Whoever will fund the studies wouldn't get that money back. |
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 toxiiq
Female, 18-29, Southern US
131 Posts
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Sunday, May 15, 2011 10:51:33 PM
yeah it's not a voice over, the audio is just not in complete sync with the video. it's slightly behind. |
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 stephg08
Female, 18-29, Canada
200 Posts
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Sunday, May 15, 2011 9:13:37 PM
"This is stupid and false" ...nope, just you are. |
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MiBelle816
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
58 Posts
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Sunday, May 15, 2011 5:06:30 PM
There is no "cure for cancer" because not all cancers will have the same cure. You cant cure leukemia with the same drug you use for lung cancer.
Also, how can something ever be not profitable for a drug company. If something cures a cancer then they would charge out the nose for it, regardless of what it costs to make. |
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Yap71
Male, 30-39, Canada
150 Posts
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Sunday, May 15, 2011 5:01:51 PM
Wooh! CTV (Canadian).
i can verify this isn't some bad voice over, that's their real voices. |
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 jarenight
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
10 Posts
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Sunday, May 15, 2011 12:11:13 PM
It's like a bad porn...horrible voice overs, nothing matches up |
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 green_batman
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
730 Posts
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Sunday, May 15, 2011 11:10:34 AM
"hard-earned tax dollars"
I think my brain just exploded. |
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snunicycler
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
89 Posts
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Sunday, May 15, 2011 10:41:46 AM
This is stupid and false |
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Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
9677 Posts
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Sunday, May 15, 2011 10:39:47 AM
Incidentally, the researcher shown in this video is a proper medical researcher, so he approves of the proper testing and he did not portray it as a miracle cure on the basis of his small-scale animal trials. He's well aware that initial results on animals are just an indicator and do not automatically mean risk-free treatment for humans:
Oncology is full of examples of miracle drugs in animals that never make it because they don't work in human beings.
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Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
9677 Posts
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Sunday, May 15, 2011 10:36:20 AM
In a very brief look, I've found more than a dozen human trials on DCA for various forms of cancer.
So where's the evidence for the suppression of it that some people are claiming exists?
Even if drug companies were developing it as a pro bono gesture or for advertising purposes (if you had the choice of buying over the counter medicine from a company that donated billions to develop a cheap and effective cancer treatment or the same medicine from a company that didn't, which would you choose?) it wouldn't make any difference.
If it's done right, drug development is very time-consuming.
If it's done wrong, it's less efficient at saving lives and can be very seriously bad. Thalidomide made it through even with all the testing - imagine how bad things would be without that testing. |
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Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
9677 Posts
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Sunday, May 15, 2011 10:19:34 AM
These stories kill me. It's there in our reach but kept locked up because her having treatments that might not work will make them more money.
Exactly the reaction the scaremongering media want, because that makes more profit for them. They'll abuse your feelings for their profit...and you'll thank them for doing it. It's every bit as twisted as how you think the drug company conspiracy works.
DCA is *NOT PATENTED*. It can't be "locked up" because there's no way to do that.
Various places are doing research on it in various countries. It's not being suppressed. It's just that the reality of DCA as a cancer treatment is very different to how some parts of the media portrayed it as being, a few years ago. |
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Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
9677 Posts
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Sunday, May 15, 2011 10:12:32 AM
Dude...it's something that KILLS CANCER, who the f*ck turns that down? F*ck profits, this can save lives.
So...you'd give people untested drugs at random doses (since the correct dose is unknown) that might or might not help and might or might not kill them, because one small study found that it appeared to shrink some kinds of tumours in rats.
Really, you'd do that? You'd throw away the opportunity of learning the best way to save lives just because you'd prefer to randomly shove drugs into people because...because why, exactly? A bit of good publicity to help your political career because most people are too ignorant to know what's wrong about that course of action? An ignorant and callous way to make yourself feel good? An ignorant and misguided attempt to save lives?
DCA is being properly tested as a cancer treatment, which is what should happen. It's not as media-friendly, but it's the most efficient way to save lives. |
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 bigwill6709
Male, 18-29, Southern US
59 Posts
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Sunday, May 15, 2011 7:55:41 AM
@Intaresting Steve Jobs already has cancer. And will likely not be here this time next year... |
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 taylor_stone
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
2493 Posts
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Sunday, May 15, 2011 6:50:19 AM
If Steve Jobbs or Bill Gates gets cancer, it'd be available in a week.
Yea... to THEM.... |
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 HalfPintRoo
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
2082 Posts
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Sunday, May 15, 2011 6:33:45 AM
My Nana was just diagnosed 2 weeks ago with cancer- again. She's my best friend. I don't know what I'd do without her. These stories kill me. It's there in our reach but kept locked up because her having treatments that might not work will make them more money. |
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 TheNineXXX
Male, 18-29, Europe
400 Posts
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Sunday, May 15, 2011 4:20:04 AM
Dichloroacetic acid is in Stage 3 trials at the moment, making this video irrelevant. |
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 RobSwindol
Male, 30-39, Southern US
2053 Posts
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Sunday, May 15, 2011 3:48:46 AM
This is a perfect reason why Universal Health care is necessary.
If private pharmaceutical companies will not pay (and I understand why they wouldn't), then that's where our government and we as caring citizens should be willing to bite the bullet.
Unfortunately, millions of tea-baggers would scream SOCIALISM! They would rather their parents, grandparents, and children die of cancer than have our government use their hard-earned tax dollars to pay for this research.
Please not that I said "parents, grandparents, and children. If the tea-bagger themselves get cancer, then they will then change their stance as they always do and then expect the government to help. |
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 handys003
Male, 50-59, Western US
2402 Posts
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Sunday, May 15, 2011 3:02:41 AM
@Intaresting
For that matter just about any of your multi-billionaires. |
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 Intaresting
Male, 18-29, Europe
812 Posts
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Sunday, May 15, 2011 2:57:54 AM
If Steve Jobbs or Bill Gates gets cancer, it'd be available in a week. |
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 Hemtroll
Male, 18-29, Europe
341 Posts
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Sunday, May 15, 2011 2:47:40 AM
"F*ck profits, this can save lives."
And I suppose you're going to pay the billions of dollars in research costs for something that may or may not kill some forms of cancer? |
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 TopperHey
Male, 18-29, Europe
1945 Posts
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Sunday, May 15, 2011 2:21:39 AM
Yeah, this isn't all-that and a bag of potato chips. |
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